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Tried giving this a quick watch at work but even on the lowest volume, Craig Burley shouting his head off was making my phone speakers distort.

If he were a cartoon, he would be emitting steam from all orifices.

I didn't watch beyond that.
Craig Burley is a nobody.

He was one of the shit stickers you'd get in your Panini album time after time. 5 Craig Burley's and 4 Colin Calderwood's.
 

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Emotional Mourinho upsetting United hierarchy
Jose Mourinho’s erratic behaviour is annoying some members of United’s hierarchy, a source told the Daily Mail.

He was most recently sent to the stands for kicking a water bottle out of frustration following Paul Pogba’s booking vs West Ham, the latest in a string of misdemeanours that have drawn negative attention to the club. And the Mail report that the manager’s actions are starting to irk some senior figures within the club,

 

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Emotional Mourinho upsetting United hierarchy
Jose Mourinho’s erratic behaviour is annoying some members of United’s hierarchy, a source told the Daily Mail.

He was most recently sent to the stands for kicking a water bottle out of frustration following Paul Pogba’s booking vs West Ham, the latest in a string of misdemeanours that have drawn negative attention to the club. And the Mail report that the manager’s actions are starting to irk some senior figures within the club,

Made up article ;)
 

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I have got to be living in a parallel universe....

United fans, on here, calling him a disgrace, miserable and basically calling him shit...While the players escape the blame, AGAIN, and some on here actually still defend, support and stand by the total and utter inept tosser that is David Moyes....

It's up there with saying The Edge can't play guitar, I'll say that much
 

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FFS, the least we need right now is articles in the press about our players and the hierarchy at the club running out of patience.
 

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FFS, the least we need right now is articles in the press about our players and the hierarchy at the club running out of patience.
Yeah!! Because we're Manchester United!! We do things the United way!!! We look down our noses (or up toilet doors) at other people and clubs because we are brilliant!! YAYYYYYYYYY!!!! Go Man Utd!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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If it's a rule, it's a shocking rule. I'd get it if he had a go at the ref, but kicking a bottle out of frustration should obviously not be a sending off offence.
 

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Yeah!! Because we're Manchester United!! We do things the United way!!! We look down our noses (or up toilet doors) at other people and clubs because we are brilliant!! YAYYYYYYYYY!!!! Go Man Utd!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you currently driving to Dundee in your bare feet?
 

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I have got to be living in a parallel universe....

United fans, on here, calling him a disgrace, miserable and basically calling him shit...While the players escape the blame, AGAIN, and some on here actually still defend, support and stand by the total and utter inept tosser that is David Moyes....

It's up there with saying The Edge can't play guitar, I'll say that much
Agree. It's nauseating.
 

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Are you currently driving to Dundee in your bare feet?
Nope. I live in Ireland and don't drive
I'm just fed up of people thinking we're some sort of club, up on a soapbox, looking down at others, as we say, "Tut tut tut that's not the United way"

The amount of petty, scummy, downright shocking things this club, it's staff and it's players has gotten up to over the years is just the same as any other club. But yeah, Mourinho kicked a water bottle. He made Luke Shaw cry because of it. Rooney leaked it so it's obviously true

A fecking water bottle....Meanwhile, Rio Ferdinand purposely kicked a ball into the Stretty in anger, during the Blackburn game, in 2007, causing harm to an individual. I don't recall this place having a bitch fit or the FA doing him....Do you?
 

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Nope. I live in Ireland and don't drive
I'm just fed up of people thinking we're some sort of club, up on a soapbox, looking down at others, as we say, "Tut tut tut that's not the United way"

The amount of petty, scummy, downright shocking things this club, it's staff and it's players has gotten up to over the years is just the same as any other club. But yeah, Mourinho kicked a water bottle. He made Luke Shaw cry because of it. Rooney leaked it so it's obviously true

A fecking water bottle....Meanwhile, Rio Ferdinand purposely kicked a ball into the Stretty in anger, during the Blackburn game, in 2007, causing harm to an individual. I don't recall this place having a bitch fit or the FA doing him....Do you?
I'll be honest I can't remember the Swansea game never mind the 2007 home match v Blackburn.
 

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I'll be honest I can't remember the Swansea game never mind the 2007 home match v Blackburn.

But yeah, let's all round on Mourinho for kicking a fecking water bottle, led by Captain leakage. :rolleyes:

Fergie started proper, physical fights with Ince, Schmeichel and others, during half time in matches. Good job he never kicked a water bottle though
 

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But yeah, let's all round on Mourinho for kicking a fecking water bottle, led by Captain leakage. :rolleyes:

Fergie started proper, physical fights with Ince, Schmeichel and others, during half time in matches. Good job he never kicked a water bottle though
:lol:

He clearly didn't mean that!

Edit: The bizarre fascination with the idea Wayne Rooney is constantly leaking stuff to the press is mad.
 

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:lol:

He clearly didn't mean that!

Edit: The bizarre fascination with the idea Wayne Rooney is constantly leaking stuff to the press is mad.
Oh so you're saying he kicked it in the heat of the moment, while he was frustrated with a refereeing decison? Like Mourinho you mean?

Well, I've got news for you. He's been seen in Wings, with journalists, dining them! He's been seen and heard leaking information to journalists before. It's not bizarre to think it's him everytime it happens
 

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Emotional Mourinho upsetting United hierarchy
Jose Mourinho’s erratic behaviour is annoying some members of United’s hierarchy, a source told the Daily Mail.

He was most recently sent to the stands for kicking a water bottle out of frustration following Paul Pogba’s booking vs West Ham, the latest in a string of misdemeanours that have drawn negative attention to the club. And the Mail report that the manager’s actions are starting to irk some senior figures within the club,






 

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I mean you can compare Ferguson with Mourinho which is fair enough. They were both hot heads, but only one of them had over two decades of good will built up with the club in the first place. Is there any United fan who feels anything but warmth and fondness for Ferguson? Is there any reason that Mourinho would have that bond with the fans?
 

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I mean you can compare Ferguson with Mourinho which is fair enough. They were both hot heads, but only one of them had over two decades of good will built up with the club in the first place. Is there any United fan who feels anything but warmth and fondness for Ferguson? Is there any reason that Mourinho would have that bond with the fans?
He's not Moyes for a start.

Plus, I bet you every penny in the world that the same people who loved Fergie, were some of the same fans who demanded his head on a plate in the late 80s and the middle part of the last decade.

That and Fergie was nearly let go in 1996
 

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He's not Moyes for a start.

Plus, I bet you every penny in the world that the same people who loved Fergie, were some of the same fans who demanded his head on a plate in the late 80s and the middle part of the last decade.

That and Fergie was nearly let go in 1996
No he's not Moyes thank feck.

Moyes had us languishing in seventh and has only picked up six points from his last five premier league games.

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You've got to nip these things in the bud. Today he's booting water bottles but tomorrow it could be babies.
 

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No he's not Moyes thank feck.

Moyes had us languishing in seventh and has only picked up six points from his last five premier league games.

I'm only messing around with ya
White text or not, it's true. He's not Moyes.

Once Moyes was appointed, I lost all hope and it's only now I've finally gotten a little of it back.We won't dominate again like with Fergie but, we'll damn well be challenging for honours and clashing at the top under Mourinho, if the club don't do something stupid
 

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Nope. I live in Ireland and don't drive
I'm just fed up of people thinking we're some sort of club, up on a soapbox, looking down at others, as we say, "Tut tut tut that's not the United way"

The amount of petty, scummy, downright shocking things this club, it's staff and it's players has gotten up to over the years is just the same as any other club. But yeah, Mourinho kicked a water bottle. He made Luke Shaw cry because of it. Rooney leaked it so it's obviously true

A fecking water bottle....Meanwhile, Rio Ferdinand purposely kicked a ball into the Stretty in anger, during the Blackburn game, in 2007, causing harm to an individual. I don't recall this place having a bitch fit or the FA doing him....Do you?
I think I remeber quite a few in the media being shocked about that Rio moment. I know I certainly was. Not sure about on here as I wasn't on the forum back in 2007. It was very out of character though

Likewise Fergie was often criticised for harassing refs

Not sure why people can't be pissed at Jose for the same thing.
 

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I think Mourinho's bottled it personally
You're Evian a laugh, m8. (I'll get my coat)

I think the FA prefer to have a mute 'yes man' in charge of us, that won't stray from his seat and will sit there like an emotionless dummy, accepting all the shit decisions we get week in week out. In the pre or post match conferences, the ref must be invisible. He must not exist. No comments must be made, even if the opposition fans or the media make allegations that the ref may be biased. You're not allowed to address it.

Meanwhile Klopp and Conte can flail their arms around shouting and screaming, say what they want to the third and fourth officials and they'll be met with a smile and an "oh, you! :rolleyes::D", because they're such characters and great for the Premier League.
 

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I think I remeber quite a few in the media being shocked about that Rio moment. I know I certainly was. Not sure about on here as I wasn't on the forum back in 2007. It was very out of character though

Likewise Fergie was often criticised for harassing refs

Not sure why people can't be pissed at Jose for the same thing.
Personally, I'm quite sickened by United fans, and those in the media, sticking the knife into Mourinho but, defending and supporting David Moyes, and continue to do so today, even though he is one inept cnut.

Fergie got away with this treatment because journalists knew if they even said one bad word about him, he'd ban them.
He never got away with it during the late 80's and the 3 years between 2003 and 2006, from the view point of a supporter though

I also cannot believe the players are escaping the blame, yet again!
Why are these leaks continuously coming out about players being "unhappy" with a manager? Why in God's name are they not getting the blame for this? Why is Luke Shaw such a sensitive soul and why is he here then if he is? Why is Martial and Ibrahimovic laughing and joking after getting destroyed 4-0? Why is he laughing after fecking up that chance against WHU?

It's just ridiculous
 

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Personally, I'm quite sickened by United fans, and those in the media, sticking the knife into Mourinho but, defending and supporting David Moyes, and continue to do so today, even though he is one inept cnut.

Fergie got away with this treatment because journalists knew if they even said one bad word about him, he'd ban them.
He never got away with it during the late 80's and the 3 years between 2003 and 2006, from the view point of a supporter though

I also cannot believe the players are escaping the blame, yet again!
Why are these leaks continuously coming out about players being "unhappy" with a manager? Why in God's name are they not getting the blame for this? Why is Luke Shaw such a sensitive soul and why is he here then if he is? Why is Martial and Ibrahimovic laughing and joking after getting destroyed 4-0? Why is he laughing after fecking up that chance against WHU?

It's just ridiculous
I'm with you 100% on this mate.

If reports are true of Luke Shaw sulking etc I'd rather him sit out some games and re think where he is.

Truth be told it could all just be media bullshit but I'm tired of our team spirit which I think is causing lapses of concentration at times in pivotal moments - not just shaw but attackers too.

In our predicament we need a ruthless bastard in charge our players need a rocket up their arse.

Thankfully last few games we have been playing well I'm sure Jose is the man for this job I put my faith in him rather than our players at the minute. Not convinced of their attitude by an overhelhming percetange of them.
 

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Personally, I'm quite sickened by United fans, and those in the media, sticking the knife into Mourinho but, defending and supporting David Moyes, and continue to do so today, even though he is one inept cnut.

Fergie got away with this treatment because journalists knew if they even said one bad word about him, he'd ban them.
He never got away with it during the late 80's and the 3 years between 2003 and 2006, from the view point of a supporter though

I also cannot believe the players are escaping the blame, yet again!
Why are these leaks continuously coming out about players being "unhappy" with a manager? Why in God's name are they not getting the blame for this? Why is Luke Shaw such a sensitive soul and why is he here then if he is? Why is Martial and Ibrahimovic laughing and joking after getting destroyed 4-0? Why is he laughing after fecking up that chance against WHU?

It's just ridiculous
I'm not seeing many defend Moyes time at Utd

Personally I don't have anything against the chap and have said since I hoped he got his career going again. Maybe that's what you mean by defending Moyes?

At the time some weren't as hard on him including myself, because it was all a foreign concept to many. Just hadn't experienced what it was like to see the club struggle so much. I was 9 years of age in 1989 when Fergie was under pressure.

Up until xmas in the Moyes season I was stil sure we would qualify for the CL :lol:

Which admittedly was very naive looking back.

But I'm not going to hold back when I disagree with stuff Jose does. And for me is tenure so far has been extremely worrying for the most part.
 

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I'm not seeing many defend Moyes time at Utd

Personally I don't have anything against the chap and have said since I hoped he got his career going again. Maybe that's what you mean by defending Moyes?

At the time some weren't as hard on him including myself, because it was all a foreign concept to many. Just hadn't experienced what it was like to see the club struggle so much. I was 9 years of age in 1989 when Fergie was under pressure.

Up until xmas in the Moyes season I was stil sure we would qualify for the CL :lol:

Which admittedly was very naive looking back.

But I'm not going to hold back when I disagree with stuff Jose does. And for me is tenure so far has been extremely worrying for the most part.
Nah, I mean't Moyes doing an absolute terrible job here and fans, people in the media etc defending him. Where as Mourinho is a disgrace and the people upstairs are getting their knives sharpened apparently

It's like the AVB situation again with Spurs. Miles better than us, ahead of us yet, AVB gets abuse before Moyes.

I've no problem with people calling Mourinho out over things that matter. But not a water bottle. I'm astounded this is actually being made a deal out of
 

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Nah, I mean't Moyes doing an absolute terrible job here and fans, people in the media etc defending him. Where as Mourinho is a disgrace and the people upstairs are getting their knives sharpened apparently

It's like the AVB situation again with Spurs. Miles better than us, ahead of us yet, AVB gets abuse before Moyes.

I've no problem with people calling Mourinho out over things that matter. But not a water bottle. I'm astounded this is actually being made a deal out of
It's not just the water bottle. It's that on top if him generally been pretty crazy since day 1

My main concern the whole time is that Chelsea damaged him beyond repair. I said this long before he became the manager. And so far he seems to be on the edge of madness constantly. It is one thing after another, constant run ins with officials, the media and his own players. Things are not all rosy that's for sure and He is not the same man we saw during his first spell at Chelsea.
 

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So that stupid Daily Fail article is saying someone thinks that Mourinho thinks about winning all the time?:wenger::lol:
For sure the journalists have made that up. He should be thinking of winning! What else is he paid for?

And if it's true that some players are affected, then you see why we've got these performances. It's embedded in this team and it needs rooting out. The only thing they should be thinking about is how to put the ball in the back of the net - that's what they should be upset about.

Honestly, I think we need a Roy Keane on the coaching staff.
 

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I'm not seeing many defend Moyes time at Utd

Personally I don't have anything against the chap and have said since I hoped he got his career going again. Maybe that's what you mean by defending Moyes?

At the time some weren't as hard on him including myself, because it was all a foreign concept to many. Just hadn't experienced what it was like to see the club struggle so much. I was 9 years of age in 1989 when Fergie was under pressure.

Up until xmas in the Moyes season I was stil sure we would qualify for the CL :lol:

Which admittedly was very naive looking back.

But I'm not going to hold back when I disagree with stuff Jose does. And for me is tenure so far has been extremely worrying for the most part.
There was one moment I recall thinking Moyes might actually turn it around, and it was in the seconds after Evra's unbelievable strike against Bayern. Since then I've looked for that moment under LVG and now José but I'm yet to see it.