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I have to say this annoys me. The privleges footballers get are ridiculous.
Yes, I wondered at first but then

1) not super serious crime in the scheme of things, could have been but wasn't before we have tat argument again

2) he's in an important profession (a lot of people would say so - if you asked the right people) & what he does says he is a lot more available at some times than at others - unreasonable bad luck he got done to appear on a matchday as opposed to a non-matchday, so give him the benefit of the doubt as you probably would for others if your overpaid Brief whines/grovels about an important prior commitment

He could go, mind. And still get there for kick off I would have thought.
 

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Mane though...

is it best for Jurgen put him in nets or use him in central defence?
 

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West Ham beat a second 11 Chelsea EFL cup team including a number of kids.
You had the likes of Cahill, Luiz, Willian, Oscar and Kante starting. Costa came on early in the second half, followed by Hazard and Pedro.

If the entire CAF can treat/act like our draw against Plymouth and our loss against Wolves as if it was our first team, then we can do the same for Chelsea's game against West Ham :)

Our match with you is far from a foregone conclusion, but we've only lost once in the league since we changed up.
And you lost a grand total of 0 League games before we beat you at Stamford Bridge. Spurs beat you after you'd won 13 in a row. It means nothing.

You were very lucky against City too. If De Bruyne doesn't completely fluff that sitter, it's 2-0 and an entirely different game. Your narrow, scrappy wins against WBA, Sunderland and Palace were far from impressive.

A lot of Chelsea fans have become very arrogant all of a sudden. And it's funny how Liverpool are a laughing stock now, when we had to deal with Coutinho being out for 6 weeks and Mane going away. Take Costa and Hazard out of the Chelsea team for the same number of games and see what happens. Take Ibra out of United, see what happens. People are really overstating our "collapse" without taking into account the circumstances.
 

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I really hope Chelsea trounce 'em.

Really think 'Pool are a totally different proposition with Mane in the side, though.
 

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If the entire CAF can treat/act like our draw against Plymouth and our loss against Wolves as if it was our first team, then we can do the same for Chelsea's game against West Ham :)
That's why I prefer to focus on your losses to Bournemouth and Swansea. ;)

A lot of Chelsea fans have become very arrogant all of a sudden. And it's funny how Liverpool are a laughing stock now, when we had to deal with Coutinho being out for 6 weeks and Mane going away. Take Costa and Hazard out of the Chelsea team for the same number of games and see what happens. Take Ibra out of United, see what happens. People are really overstating our "collapse" without taking into account the circumstances.
All the Chelsea fans I know are far from feeling arrogant, because last season is WAY to vivid in the memory. What we will never, ever do though is miss an opportunity to remind Liverpool fans of their consistent failure and delusions of grandeur. Perhaps if you guys didn't spent the first half of every season boasting about how great your team was an how superior you are to teams that in reality are much better, then we wouldn't have to do this every year. But in all honesty we probably would anyway, because its funny.
 

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That's why I prefer to focus on your losses to Bournemouth and Swansea. ;)



All the Chelsea fans I know are far from feeling arrogant, because last season is WAY to vivid in the memory. What we will never, ever do though is miss an opportunity to remind Liverpool fans of their consistent failure and delusions of grandeur. Perhaps if you guys didn't spent the first half of every season boasting about how great your team was an how superior you are to teams that in reality are much better, then we wouldn't have to do this every year. But in all honesty we probably would anyway, because its funny.
Bournemouth was a freak result. That kind of thing only happens 2 or 3 times a season. Swansea was really poor but also very strange. They had just lost 4-0 to Arsenal and then came to Anfield and scored with all 3 of their shots on target. Again, not something that's gonna happen often.

You must be so grateful that Roman bought success for Chelsea.
 

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Mane though...

is it best for Jurgen put him in nets or use him in central defence?
Nets. Karius and Mignolet just don't do the job. Mane's lack of height is some sort of weird advantage...probably.
 

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Bournemouth was a freak result. That kind of thing only happens 2 or 3 times a season. Swansea was really poor but also very strange. They had just lost 4-0 to Arsenal and then came to Anfield and scored with all 3 of their shots on target. Again, not something that's gonna happen often.

You must be so grateful that Roman bought success for Chelsea.
If it's any consolation you hadn't won the league for 13 years before Roman arrived either. :)
 

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I fancy a draw tonight to be honest. Even though the managers won't admit it, a draw suits both sides.

For Chelsea, being 10 points clear of Liverpool with 15 games left isnt that much different from being 13 points clear. Either way it would take a major collapse for Liverpool to be a threat. And after this, United is the only major away fixture they have left. They've built up a cushion that means draws at Anfield and Old Trafford are fine, particularly knowing Spurs have to go to Anfield, and that they can put Arsenal away at home the following week.

For Liverpool, winning the game might just about put them in the title race again, but losing four home games in a row would be major crisis time, particularly since their next two home games are against Spurs and Arsenal. They can afford not to win, but they cannot afford to lose.

I don't think that either team will play for the draw from the start. But if the game's still level with 15 or 20 minutes to go, both sides will realise that they've got more to lose than they have to gain. People stop taking risks and games often end up in stalemate. I can see that happening tonight.
 

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If it's any consolation you hadn't won the league for 13 years before Roman arrived either. :boring:
Isn't that a bit irrelevant to the fact that Chelsea bought success? You're a plastic Club, so any insults you try to throw at us just looks pathetic. Chelsea and City are just pathetic, tbh. Without the megabucks owners, you'd be nowhere, let's be honest.
 

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Bournemouth was a freak result. That kind of thing only happens 2 or 3 times a season. Swansea was really poor but also very strange. They had just lost 4-0 to Arsenal and then came to Anfield and scored with all 3 of their shots on target. Again, not something that's gonna happen often.

You must be so grateful that Roman bought success for Chelsea.
We do seem to have a habit of dropping points to sides at the wrong end of the table though.

You've also inadvertently pointed out a major flaw in our side. We rarely concede a large number of shots on our goal but when we do, they seem to be clear cut chances that the opposition should score from. Southampton (both games) Sunderland, Swansea, Wolves, Bournemouth, Burnley and West Ham are all examples of that.
 

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Isn't that a bit irrelevant to the fact that Chelsea bought success? You're a plastic Club, so any insults you try to throw at us just looks pathetic. Chelsea and City are just pathetic, tbh. Without the megabucks owners, you'd be nowhere, let's be honest.
Interesting intepretation of history you have there. Roman bought Chelsea in June 2003. The season before Chelsea finished above Liverpool, without any of that money you love to point at. Does it burn knowing that we were better than you even before we became a 'plastic' team?

Incidentally its pretty funny hearing a team that has spent coming up to £300m over the last 3 seasons whining about other people buying success. Admittedly all that money hasn't actually bought you any actual success though, so I can see why you're bitter about it. :)
 

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Interesting intepretation of history you have there. Roman bought Chelsea in June 2003. The season before Chelsea finished above Liverpool, without any of that money you love to point at. Does it burn knowing that we were better than you even before we became a 'plastic' team?
You were on the cusp of doing a leeds with all the debt you had accrued. If roman hadnt come in, you'd be somewhere in the lower divisions by now.
 

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You were on the cusp of doing a leeds with all the debt you had accrued. If roman hadnt come in, you'd be somewhere in the lower divisions by now.
Yet instead we're a top 3 team with multiple titles, many cups and a CL win. Funny how the world turns out isn't it. ;)
 

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Yes, I wondered at first but then

1) not super serious crime in the scheme of things, could have been but wasn't before we have tat argument again

2) he's in an important profession (a lot of people would say so - if you asked the right people) & what he does says he is a lot more available at some times than at others - unreasonable bad luck he got done to appear on a matchday as opposed to a non-matchday, so give him the benefit of the doubt as you probably would for others if your overpaid Brief whines/grovels about an important prior commitment

He could go, mind. And still get there for kick off I would have thought.
Point 2: Those people would be wrong. His job is not important at all. He kicks a bag of air around a field. He isn't a surgeon, or a soldier, no one dies or looses their home if he doesn't kick a bag of air for one day.
 

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Yes, I wondered at first but then

1) not super serious crime in the scheme of things, could have been but wasn't before we have tat argument again

2) he's in an important profession (a lot of people would say so - if you asked the right people) & what he does says he is a lot more available at some times than at others - unreasonable bad luck he got done to appear on a matchday as opposed to a non-matchday, so give him the benefit of the doubt as you probably would for others if your overpaid Brief whines/grovels about an important prior commitment

He could go, mind. And still get there for kick off I would have thought.
Drink driving is a very serious offence.
 

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I think it's going to be a comfortable win for Chelsea. 0:2 and 4th consecutive home defeat for Pool.
 

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Isn't that a bit irrelevant to the fact that Chelsea bought success? You're a plastic Club, so any insults you try to throw at us just looks pathetic. Chelsea and City are just pathetic, tbh. Without the megabucks owners, you'd be nowhere, let's be honest.
Aye, but they are a successful club. Can the same be said of yours?
 

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Liverpool will come out fighting. The longer Chelsea can weather the storm the likelier they are to get a win. Something controversial will happen. A loved one will make unexpected contact.
 

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I think we're going to get done on the counter again. Luiz spreading passes up to Hazard and Costa will be an issue if Conte chooses to play that way.
 

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Comfortable win for Chelsea.
The best defence in England won't suddenly crumble and allow toothless Liverpool to cut through them and why wouldn't Conte play on the break against a side who struggle against that?
 

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Liverpool will come out fighting. The longer Chelsea can weather the storm the likelier they are to get a win. Something controversial will happen. A loved one will make unexpected contact.
I sense that Liverpool will meet a tall, dark stranger..

 

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I know this is unlikely but still, Chelsea have to play Liverpool, Arsenal and City before they play us at OT. Hypothetically speaking, if they lose those three games and we win our (winnable on paper) games then beat them at OT, we'd be 2 points behind them with four games to go...
 

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I know this is unlikely but still, Chelsea have to play Liverpool, Arsenal and City before they play us at OT. Hypothetically speaking, if they lose those three games and we win our (winnable on paper) games then beat them at OT, we'd be 2 points behind them with four games to go...
Give it up, mate.

;)

The chances of us being them aren't great, for one.
 

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Comfortable win for Chelsea.
The best defence in England won't suddenly crumble and allow toothless Liverpool to cut through them and why wouldn't Conte play on the break against a side who struggle against that?
I'm sorry but since when is the Chelseas defence the best in England? Is that your opinion or a fact?

You've just got a good system that is suited to playing most teams in the EPL. You got lucky against Man City IMO and from my memory you've struggled against the other top sides. I don't think you guys have the best defence in England, maybe the best system but not defence.
 

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Give it up, mate.

;)

The chances of us being them aren't great, for one.
I'm only allowed 3 posts but I reckon if Pool beat them then they'll be a bit more nervous with our game. We might just win it tbh. We seem to be getting rid of our bogeys this season.
 

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Interesting intepretation of history you have there. Roman bought Chelsea in June 2003. The season before Chelsea finished above Liverpool, without any of that money you love to point at. Does it burn knowing that we were better than you even before we became a 'plastic' team?

Incidentally its pretty funny hearing a team that has spent coming up to £300m over the last 3 seasons whining about other people buying success. Admittedly all that money hasn't actually bought you any actual success though, so I can see why you're bitter about it. :)
Oh the burn...
 

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I know this is unlikely but still, Chelsea have to play Liverpool, Arsenal and City before they play us at OT. Hypothetically speaking, if they lose those three games and we win our (winnable on paper) games then beat them at OT, we'd be 2 points behind them with four games to go...
Never give up, never surrender!
 

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Keen to see Liverpool go on to lose 3 in 1 competition now.
 

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I'm sorry but since when is the Chelseas defence the best in England? Is that your opinion or a fact?

You've just got a good system that is suited to playing most teams in the EPL. You got lucky against Man City IMO and from my memory you've struggled against the other top sides. I don't think you guys have the best defence in England, maybe the best system but not defence.
Don't all defenses depend on a system? A CDM or a GK are always part of a defense. It's a team game remember?
 

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Interesting intepretation of history you have there. Roman bought Chelsea in June 2003. The season before Chelsea finished above Liverpool, without any of that money you love to point at. Does it burn knowing that we were better than you even before we became a 'plastic' team?

Incidentally its pretty funny hearing a team that has spent coming up to £300m over the last 3 seasons whining about other people buying success. Admittedly all that money hasn't actually bought you any actual success though, so I can see why you're bitter about it. :)
Reminds me of that interesting tidbit I read somewhere. Chelsea played Liverpool on the last day of 02-03 season, coming from behind I think to win 2-1. Abramovich had been looking at a few English clubs to buy that season after the United-Real game, and went as far as visiting Liverpool, but chose Chelsea in part because they were in the Champions League. So, if Liverpool had won that game, could have been them that got the umpteen million pounds pumped into them instead of Chelsea.

As little as I care for Chelsea, would have been unbearable if Liverpool had been the ones to get Mourinho and all the millions.