His family are so settled in the nw i can't see him rvrn moving to the usa, let alone china. Pipe dream that i think.
Rooney - Wants to stay next season
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that was a disgrace
just pay the man, buy the contract out and behave with a bit of class and dignity
imagine treating our top scorer and a club legend like that
Yes Rooneys going to agree to that.Well said. If we were keeping players on the playing books out of sentimentality and what they did in the past, Charlton would still be No 9.
What is a disgrace is not being able to stay off the pies and booze for a couple of seasons so there is at least a small chance he can hold up his end of the contract and be a fit, professional rather than blowing out of his arse after playing ten minutes against retired players, what is a disgrace is expecting the club to honour their end of the deal and fork out 30 million quid wholst not being able to provide the services that that money is for.
I'm no defender of Rooney trust me.... it was a disgrace and an embarrassment the way Bastian was treated last year
regardless of how many pies Rooney eats we, as a club, made a contract with him. We should act with a bit of class
And as we have a contract with him we can do what we like with him, so we should absolutely give him the Bastian treatment.
A contract is two parties agreeing to terms. At the beginning of the season I knew, like everyone did, that Rooney needed to lose weight if he wanted to compete, honestly the same goes for Shaw. But Rooney didn't want to, he didn't prioritize it. If he was lighter he could have been dangerous behind Zlatan or Rashford, but he knew he wasn't fit and you could tell by the amount of times he gave the ball away. It's not that he forgot how to pass, it's more so he physically isn't in shape and that effects his mentality as well. It's selfish to be paid that much money and not prioritize your fitness for the club. While he can still walk he should go to China and cash in, because he won't be able to play for much longer and once that window is closed it will never open again.
I disagree with the idea of treating Rooney like that - like it or not, Rooney was an integral part of our club during one of its most successful periods, like it or not he is our club captain, a club legend and our top scorer of all time.....
all this is besides the point for me as we should as a club conduct ourselves with a bit of dignity
Moyes and Woodward made the mistake of getting into bed with Rooney with that long contract - they agreed to pay him the huge salary
Rooney isn't stupid, he knows he isn't part of Jose's plans and him still being at the club has more to do with other clubs not being interested - is putting him in the reserves supposed to make him more attractive to other clubs?
Rooney this year sat on the bench and took his demotion well - he'd do the same in the reserves I think and all we'd achieve would be making the club look petty and classless like we did with Bastian
I think we will get some interest late in the window but if we don't then the club should simply cut a deal with him rather than let Rooney hover in the background
the way we treated Valdes convinced Pedro not to sign and the way we treated Bastian was embarrassing and so Mourinho.... I heard the same nonsense on here from defenders of Jose in his treatment of Shaw, Mhiki and Martial - when did publicly attacking any team member ever motivate anyone? people suggesting we bully a club legend (like it or not) like Rooney so he might go to China is laughable
each to their own but maybe I just have higher expectations of how a club like Manchester United should conduct themselves - I prefer class and dignity myself
all this is besides the point for me as we should as a club conduct ourselves with a bit of dignity
Moyes and Woodward made the mistake of getting into bed with Rooney with that long contract - they agreed to pay him the huge salary
Rooney isn't stupid, he knows he isn't part of Jose's plans and him still being at the club has more to do with other clubs not being interested - is putting him in the reserves supposed to make him more attractive to other clubs?
Rooney this year sat on the bench and took his demotion well - he'd do the same in the reserves I think and all we'd achieve would be making the club look petty and classless like we did with Bastian
I think we will get some interest late in the window but if we don't then the club should simply cut a deal with him rather than let Rooney hover in the background
the way we treated Valdes convinced Pedro not to sign and the way we treated Bastian was embarrassing and so Mourinho.... I heard the same nonsense on here from defenders of Jose in his treatment of Shaw, Mhiki and Martial - when did publicly attacking any team member ever motivate anyone? people suggesting we bully a club legend (like it or not) like Rooney so he might go to China is laughable
each to their own but maybe I just have higher expectations of how a club like Manchester United should conduct themselves - I prefer class and dignity myself
I still cant bring myself to believe we gave Rooney an option on the final year of his contract that he could take unilaterally, without the club having to agree to trigger the option. Even taking into account our desperation when we gave him that contract, I cant believe we offered that. Pretty sure both parties would have to agree.
Also find it hard to believe player contracts dont have some kind of fitness covenants built into them. Surely any club and any player contract would routinely have clauses that said if a player let himself go physically, and wasnt able to deliver to the standard expected of a PL player for reasons other than injury or recovery from injury, that would be a breach of contract? I dont know anything about this and you would have thought it would have been spoken about if such clauses existed, but it seems madness that so much money could be put at risk, in such a long term contract, without such basic protections.
Also find it hard to believe player contracts dont have some kind of fitness covenants built into them. Surely any club and any player contract would routinely have clauses that said if a player let himself go physically, and wasnt able to deliver to the standard expected of a PL player for reasons other than injury or recovery from injury, that would be a breach of contract? I dont know anything about this and you would have thought it would have been spoken about if such clauses existed, but it seems madness that so much money could be put at risk, in such a long term contract, without such basic protections.
The trouble with Rooney is that he has been coasting for a few years now. He now seems unable to motivate himself for the few remaining, twilight years of his career. I guess he and his advisors recognise this, and now just intend to milk the cow for every last penny. His career is going to end in ignominy, unfortunately.
Honestly, I think clubs might start putting that caveat in contracts in the future after seeing a decline like Rooney's. And to be honest i'm sure our lawyers could figure a way to void the contract on the basis that his fitness standards are not up to scratch.
To be honest, I remember Sir Alex warning that Rooney does not have the physique of those who were more naturally gifted, like Giggs. And he clearly mentioned that playing football at the highest level for 12-13 years in Rooney's all action style does bring its wear and tear. Here's a snippet from back in 2012-13 season when Fergie did not send back to Nike's fitness headquarters in USA and decided to make him sweat it out at Carrington instead:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...e-Rooney-faces-career-long-battle-weight.html
Yes he's our club leading scorer and a legend in his own right. But tell me, if he did decide to get in shape and worked hard to get his focus back, not a single one of us would say no if his stay extended a bit longer. Just needs to work hard to get in the groove again.
He would add invaluable experience of having been there and done all that is needed; we will feel the dearth in the squad when Carrick retires next season.
I would definitely have them looking into it.
I would treat him very respectfully, not "banish" him or anything like that, start out much like last season, but not play him, explaining to him that players are picked on merit and he didnt justify his place (unless of course he did, and looked really good in training and did really well in any minutes he did get, in which case I would play him). But if he was not sharp, if he was demonstrably less fit than other members of the squad, I would have the lawyers find a way to use it to get us out of the contract.
Now that would be a fitting legacy. You had the Bosman ruling, which changed the face of football forever. How apt would it be if Rooney wasnt remembered for being our all time top scorer, but being the player that set the precedent that if you are a fat piece of shit who cant hack the pace of the PL, you get your contract terminated? "The Rooney Ruling." It even sounds like a thing.
that stupid contract would never have happened under Fergie/Gill. So annoying and naïve, especially when Fergie knew his best years were done
a result of both Moyes and Woodward being desperate
they couldn't sign anyone bar Fellaini (laughably for 5 million more than the release fee) and basically gave Rooney what he wanted
it was a massive mistake for Gill and Fergie to leave at the same time - Moyes was out of his depth and Woodward was naive
I haven't read this thread, avoided it for many reasons but what is this exactly? Where did this come from, when he signed contract club announced the deal is till 2019, so where is this 1 year extension thing coming from?
Its just a bit unclear because there are conflicting reports, but I believe the original release put out by the club at the time the contract was announced said 2019 pure and simple. More recent press reports have discussed an option but it may be they have the wrong information. Either way I think the option, if it exists, and whoever owned it, would relate to 2018-19 season. There is no suggestion the option would extend the contract beyond 2019.
'Was' being the operative word. If it has been made clear to him that he is no longer considered part of our first team plans, anything that happens now is on him if he wants to hang around for the larger pay check.
Oh. I think Simon Stone made a blunder and tried to cover it up with all the bs about option to extend for a year.
I cant post tweets, but the former Comms director at Everton Alan Myers who apparently is ITK, just tweeted:
"Keane will have medical this morning before completing the deal, and expect a big name to arrive before August 31st". followed by: No but I think you will "remember the name"
I don't want to get anyone's hopes up but that sounds very much like Rooney?!
"Keane will have medical this morning before completing the deal, and expect a big name to arrive before August 31st". followed by: No but I think you will "remember the name"
I don't want to get anyone's hopes up but that sounds very much like Rooney?!
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Everton finally have a chance to push on as a club. Liverpool fans must be drooling at the prospect of their willingness to throw it all away for Rooney.
Yeah, Jim White just in TalkSport seems to think it's 'inevitable' that WR is going back to Everton. Just like a new signing this news!
Lukaku going the other way?
please let this be true!
It's nailed on that this move will reinvigorate Rooney , He will have a blinder of a season for Everton & surprise surprise , he will look one of the best midfielders in the prem.
Well said. I'm glad there are still some people out there who favour the classy approach . We're over ran with fans that think we should put unwanted players in stocks & lob rotten fruit at them.
consider this payback for Moyes
It really isn't. There's 0 supporting evidence for Rooney being one of the best midfielders in the prem and plenty of arguments to show the opposite.
Will most likely slip from a starter to squad player to back up in a few months at the club. A pity, everton were looking like they'd really step on this season. Unless they manage to convince Rooney to greatly reduce his wage demands, this could be unfortunate for them.
Yeah, like that's going to make us look like a great team to come and play for. Would you want to work at a place where they treat legends of the game like that ? It doesn't bode well for mere mortals does it ?
Footballers are supposed to be professionals and that means staying in shape and fit at all times throughout their contracts. Most footballers know that if they don't then their careers are over, and they would understand why.
FFS Wayne......go to China or the US. PL is too quick for you.
Why are you such a pessimist? Wayne has incredible pedigree on his side, hundreds of goals under his belt, he's seen it all and done greatly at the biggest stages of football. Rooney will come back to his home, a club he supported as a kid. It'll probably be the biggest incentive up until now for him to improve and show all these doubters, even from within United, that they were never so wrong. Wayne will come to Goodison Park and he will conquer the Premier League once more in whichever position Koeman the Wise will choose for him, be it even a deep lying playmaker ala Pirlo. It's a transfer that's destined to be a bargain of a decade. We're very foolish to let him go, but who shall stand up against the will of Football Gods?!
Yep, cos I once read on here somewhere that Rooney loves nothing better than sitting in his y fronts with his prison break box set , 20 Marlboro & an assortment of Greggs pies, I'm going to take it as gospel .
You don't know his eating habits, I don't either, but I do know that for the most part he has been a good professional for us, & I find the stick he gets a tad tedious & juvenile . I accept he's no longer a top striker, I don't see any need to bash him for it.
Everton are mental if they're willing to take Rooney off our hands.
Also I cannot believe there are still people out there who think Rooney could be a top class central midfielder. It's absolutely baffling.
Also I cannot believe there are still people out there who think Rooney could be a top class central midfielder. It's absolutely baffling.
Think this will happen before the end of August. Hopefully we'll give Pereira a chance to take Rooney's spot in the squad.
I feel the best way for Mourinho to deal with this is to give Rooney the striker position for all pre-season games, at least until we sign a real striker.
So if this is true, Rooney is getting fit early to play for Everton. So if he was staying he would probably be on the pies and booze still.
Sounds about right
Sounds about right
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