Dj having no comeback, and basically going "nuh-uh!"This exchange between Chelsea and City fans in the replies made me laugh:
Chelsea 2017/18 thread - FA Cup Champs, League chumps
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That is absolutely horrible
Surely it puts all the other videos in the "footballer reveals" thread to shame.On another note, I think Rüdiger is a decent signing, although I don't think he's gonna be as good as Lindelöf. Is he gonna start right away? And if so, who's he replacing? Azpilicueta?
That is absolutely horrible
On another note, I think Rüdiger is a decent signing, although I don't think he's gonna be as good as Lindelöf. Is he gonna start right away? And if so, who's he replacing? Azpilicueta?
Not trying to be a WUM, but Rudiger is much better than Lindelof IMO. My wife is a Benfica fan so I've watched them quite a bit-Lindelof is a level below Rudiger at the moment. Rudiger is much faster, is better on the ball, is less clumsy, and is more versatile. Lindelof will also have a more difficult time adjusting I think; the level of the Portuguese league is some distance from Serie A. Lindelof was also quite poor for much of this past season, in particular the first half, though he did improve towards the latter stages.
Didn't watch Portuguese league much so can't comment on Lindelof. Rudiger has the tools to become a top CB, especially physically, but he has some very bad mistakes in him. Due to his physicality he might acclimate better to the Prem but he still needs to work on his composure and some of the more tactical aspects of the position. If Chelsea's back line is settled it will really help him. He did perform very well at the Confed Cup, could turn out to be a very good signing
Take it from someone whos watched Lindelof all year, he isnt anything special.That is absolutely horrible
On another note, I think Rüdiger is a decent signing, although I don't think he's gonna be as good as Lindelöf. Is he gonna start right away? And if so, who's he replacing? Azpilicueta?
Mind you i cant speak much about Rudiger, but in the Confed cup he was sublime.
I suppose if he sucks you can always put him back in the cupboard!
Surprised to see the negative comment so Lindelof. Thought he was supposed to be highly rated.
As for Chelsea, there seems to be a lot of noise surrounding them this summer with Conte supposedly unhappy, but it all seems a bit much. They're the current PL champions. They will get a couple of players in. That should be enough to at least challenge again.
As for Chelsea, there seems to be a lot of noise surrounding them this summer with Conte supposedly unhappy, but it all seems a bit much. They're the current PL champions. They will get a couple of players in. That should be enough to at least challenge again.
The stats say otherwise regarding being better on the ball, but then you're a Chelsea fan who it seems have an habit of grossly overrating Chelsea players.
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...pletion/total_forward_passes/total_duels_%#90
As you can see on this link, Lindelof beats Rudiger on almost every defensive plus passing score. "A level below Rudiger" indeed.
Yeah, that guy loves to overrate any player linked with Chelsea.
Btw his aerial duels success rate is 54% which is poor for a CB, especially for a CB who is 6.3.
Also not sure you can read much into this but whenever he played, his team conceded more than 1 or around 1 goal on average.
2016-17
Europa league: 4 and half games - 9 goals conceded
Serie A: 24 games - 22 goals conceded
Copa Italia: 4 games - 5 goals conceded
2015-16
Champions league: 5 games - 15 goals conceded (3 games was against Barca and Madrid where they conceded 9 goals, if you remove that then 3 games - 6 goals)
Serie A: 29 games - 32 goals conceded
Not that it gives definitive answer but the record is poor.
No bias here, good to see.
You would expect Lindelofs stats to be better than rudigers realistically with him playing in a much poorer league and for a more dominant team.
He says that Lindelof was quite poor and is a class below Rudiger, surely the stats to some extent should show that.
Also if Rudiger is playing in a lesser dominant team then surely he should've more interceptions, blocks etc. More dominant team in the league means less to defend
Don't get me wrong I haven't seen Lindelof play so I cant comment and I think Rudiger has all the assets for Conte to mould into a good CB I'm actually really confident about him, as for Lindelof I've heard he's rated so will have to wait and see.
Also I see your point but realistically if your a quality player playing against poor opposition I just feel your stats are going to look better.
Looks like it is Morata were in for according to Sky Sports, getting him & Bakayoko sealed this week would be great.
I'm unsure how I feel about Rudiger, I would have preferred his partner Kostas Manolas. He also has had quite a bad time with injuries these last few years
Given you didn't get Lukaku over the line and we couldn't negotiate a fee with Real for Morata good luck getting that done this week
Where even is Bakayoko? The Moon?
Apparently he's become a licensed doctor after having studied the art of medicals for a few months.
You can't compare the stats directly as about 40% of Rudiger's appearances last season were as a fullback, and about half his appearances as a CB were in a back 3. This would tend to really deflate his counting statistics.
In addition, you can really see Benfica's dominance manifested in Lindelof's passing statistics-I don't think anyone who watches them regularly would argue that he's a brilliant passer. There's just very little pressing in Liga NOS and teams would sit deep against Benfica, so Lindelof could step forward and complete simple passes into midfield easily. It's not really a point in his favour; he is 100% not the sort of CB to hit ambitious passes out from the back.
Loftus-cheek another successful graduate from the famous Chelsea academy.
Their record for bringing youth players into the first team is an embarrassment.
My dad's harder than your dad
Have you met my dad? Hes harder then both your da's combined.
Dry your eyes salty blues.
Dunno about hardness but my dad wrote a book about football that I thought was quite decent!
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/may/24/numbers-game-everything-football-wrong
So you saying stats shouldn't be used to judge player?
I'm saying that stats have to be taken in context. You can't use direct comparisons between leagues because there are differences in styles/pace of play, so you have to make adjustments. When comparing players from the same league or competition stats are very useful for the most part, or if you're using them as a component of your analysis but they can't be the be all end all.
Now, this isn't to say that there aren't ways around these issues-Squawka's performance score and WhoScored both attempt to do this, but both are frankly crap. Each team has their own as well but they're obviously proprietary and protected by a blockade of NDAs.
Didn't you use those stats to big up Bakayoko?
Nope, never have never will, both are useless. I believe WhoScored rated Otamendi as something like the 10th best player in Europe last season, for instance.
EDIT: One thing that I did do was use Squawka's performance score game by game to show Matic's decline in a single season-I think that's a better use of it as there are fewer variables (it's a single player in the same league, same season, etc etc). It's not great and I wouldn't do it had I other options, but I wanted to show his performances from 3 seasons ago.
No, I mean something like Player made x number of tackles, y number of interceptions.
Someone mentioned that Bakayoko was terrible in the CL and I pointed out that his stats suggested that he wasn't at all. I didn't say that he was brilliant or anything but just that he wasn't shite as many others seemed to think.
Wasnt he in the team of the season in CL? How can he be terrible and make the team of the season?
He was woefull against Juve IIRC
Latest reports indicating Morata has ytold zidane he wants to fight for his place and will go to the tour to USA with Madrid.
So any other strikers linked apart from llorente?
So any other strikers linked apart from llorente?
Apparently Aubameyang was linked to Chelsea today.