Fellaini | Mou: "It's easier for Galatasaray to get me than Marouane. He is too important to me."

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How strange that it seemed so imminent from the other side, yet made little sense at our end.
And very swiftly put to bed by Jose!
 

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Not a fan of the whole "if all else fails hoof to Fellaini" option. We're better than that. The fact that Jose is even entertaining the idea of using the above tactic is a little worrying.

Fellaini is a constant reminder of Moyes and his horrific management of our club. We need to put that era well and truly behind us, but all the while Fellaini remains a United player that seems impossible to do so. Which is probably a little unfair on Fellaini truth be told but that's the way it is.
 

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Not a fan of the whole "if all else fails hoof to Fellaini" option. We're better than that. The fact that Jose is even entertaining the idea of using the above tactic is a little worrying.

Fellaini is a constant reminder of Moyes and his horrific management of our club. We need to put that era well and truly behind us, but all the while Fellaini remains a United player that seems impossible to do so. Which is probably a little unfair on Fellaini truth be told but that's the way it is.
Is that why fans mindlessly bash him? Cause he's a reminder of Moyes?

If so, they should be booing Ferguson aswell. He was the one that hired him. You can't ignore that fact.
 

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Is that why fans mindlessly bash him? Cause he's a reminder of Moyes?

If so, they should be booing Ferguson aswell. He was the one that hired him. You can't ignore that fact.
It's not hard to see why Fellaini is representative of our slump over the last 4 seasons. He's the one player that has been here for the whole of that period, and none of SAF's, and we even managed to make an embarrassing balls-up of signing him. While he is genuinely shit other than a few niche abilities, it's beyond that. No hard feelings to the lad, but he's a feckin curse on the club, and I will drive him to Turkey myself.
 

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It's not hard to see why Fellaini is representative of our slump over the last 4 seasons. He's the one player that has been here for the whole of that period, and none of SAF's, and we even managed to make an embarrassing balls-up of signing him. While he is genuinely shit other than a few niche abilities, it's beyond that. No hard feelings to the lad, but he's a feckin curse on the club, and I will drive him to Turkey myself.
How is he a curse on the club when he's won 3 trophies with us? Genuine question.

If that's a curse, what do you consider the players of Liverpool and Spurs who haven't won squat?
 

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How is he a curse on the club when he's won 3 trophies with us? Genuine question.

If that's a curse, what do you consider the players of Liverpool and Spurs who haven't won squat?
The fact that even when we're shit we continue to pull in trophies ten times as fast as Liverpool is just a side note here. We have undeniably had a very poor time since SAF left - getting through three managers while constantly struggling, and generally failing, to even make the top 4.
 

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Like it or not, he is one of the most important players. And it's not just me saying it either, it's Jose.
Important is a stretch to begin with never mind one of the most important players, we signed a midfielder last year for a world record and we just signed another one for £40m. And Herrera actually is one of our most important players. Those 3 depending on the system will play most of our games.

And at no10 (which is Fellaini's actual position) we have Mata, Mkhy and even Rashford. So he's not playing regularly there.

Fellaini will get games of course but he's a squad player. Yes you could say squad players are important too but he is only as important as other squad players like Lingard or Smalling.
 

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Important is a stretch to begin with never mind one of the most important players, we signed a midfielder last year for a world record and we just signed another one for £40m. And Herrera actually is one of our most important players. Those 3 depending on the system will play most of our games.

And at no10 (which is Fellaini's actual position) we have Mata, Mkhy and even Rashford. So he's not playing regularly there.

Fellaini will get games of course but he's a squad player. Yes you could say squad players are important too but he is only as important as other squad players like Lingard or Smalling.
Says who?
 

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Important is a stretch to begin with never mind one of the most important players, we signed a midfielder last year for a world record and we just signed another one for £40m. And Herrera actually is one of our most important players. Those 3 depending on the system will play most of our games.

And at no10 (which is Fellaini's actual position) we have Mata, Mkhy and even Rashford. So he's not playing regularly there.

Fellaini will get games of course but he's a squad player. Yes you could say squad players are important too but he is only as important as other squad players like Lingard or Smalling.
He's more important than Lingard and Smalling cause he offers an entire different dimension to the game when he's on the field.

A lot of fans don't like watching crosses and headers cause it's not "pretty" but like it or not, it's an effective tactic and one every manager would like to have. If it wins us trophies (and it has), who gives a feck?
 

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The fact that even when we're shit we continue to pull in trophies ten times as fast as Liverpool is just a side note here. We have undeniably had a very poor time since SAF left - getting through three managers while constantly struggling, and generally failing, to even make the top 4.
We only struggled cause we didn't give it to Mourinho in the first place!
 

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He's more important than Lingard and Smalling cause he offers an entire different dimension to the game when he's on the field.
He's not.

A lot of fans don't like watching crosses and headers cause it's not "pretty" but like it or not, it's an effective tactic and one every manager would like to have. If it wins us trophies (and it has), who gives a feck?
Every manager?

Why don't Barcelona and Real Madrid have a player similar to Fellaini then? How come Ferguson never realized he needed a player like Fellaini, if only he'd been a good enough manager to realize he needed a tall specialist to lump balls up to he might have won more league titles and more european cups.

Of course thats without even mentioning that Fellaini isn't even that great in the air, and lumping balls up to him isn't even that effective.

How many headers has he scored for us?
 

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Come on he's been here nearly 4 years now, this stuff is just down right boring. We know, we know, we know...but Jose likes him so let's move on please.
 

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Starting to wonder whether this is on or off. I know Jose appreciates him and would rather not lose him, but maybe it's partly a ruse to drive up the price & partly a smokescreen for another transfer in. I seriously doubt he'll get an extension, so I don't see the wisdom of keeping him on when a decent offer is on the table. Maybe someone like Dendoncker is in the works, but we don't want the selling clubs ideas that extra money is on hand if Fellaini is sold beforehand.

For me, I don't mind having the big lug around, I'd be shocked if he's around after next May.
 

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He's an good option to have for plan B.
Put him at 10 so he can chest and lay the ball back to Pogba / Herrera.. Run into the box and make defenders try to mark him and Lukaku. He's strong in the air, a decent header and a strange ability to ghost into the back post (he's scored quite a few like that, unmarked on the back post).

Yes, it's not sexy but frankly we'll be needing this when sexy football isn't working.

We don't have the depth to replace the starters with a sub, using the same tactic. If the starters can't get it done, we'll need to change tactics and Fellaini offers that option.

Just get him as far away from our box as possible so he can't give away cheap free-kick
 

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Do think he's a bit of a scapegoat.

Absolutely hate it when he plays midfield, totally ruins any fluidity but on the flip side; if 3 consecutive managers saw route one lump-it-to-Felli football as the go-to plan b option then it probably speaks more about the creativity (or lack thereof) in our midfield.
Those managers are just damn lazy to make a very creative team. Its easier to play hoofball as a plan B than tweak the team to make things work.
 

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What on earth are you talking about? You made a big song and dance about 3 managers using Fellaini.

2 of those managers failed and were sacked.

1 is here and has spent £130 million on other midfielders.

Not a good point.
So you basically ignored everything i said, spit out he "what are you talking about" comment, and litreally said the same thing over again. Okay
 

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Few better things in football than when Fellaini has a good game. He's like a human form of Screwball Scramble. Balls rolling off his face, bouncing off his hair, the lot. He's great to watch on his best day.
 

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He's an good option to have for plan B.
Put him at 10 so he can chest and lay the ball back to Pogba / Herrera.. Run into the box and make defenders try to mark him and Lukaku. He's strong in the air, a decent header and a strange ability to ghost into the back post (he's scored quite a few like that, unmarked on the back post).

Yes, it's not sexy but frankly we'll be needing this when sexy football isn't working.

We don't have the depth to replace the starters with a sub, using the same tactic. If the starters can't get it done, we'll need to change tactics and Fellaini offers that option.

Just get him as far away from our box as possible so he can't give away cheap free-kick
Agree 100%.

Can't stand Fellaini being a starter for us, but denying he offer tactical alternatives that can useful in certain games is daft.
 

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He's an good option to have for plan B.
Put him at 10 so he can chest and lay the ball back to Pogba / Herrera.. Run into the box and make defenders try to mark him and Lukaku. He's strong in the air, a decent header and a strange ability to ghost into the back post (he's scored quite a few like that, unmarked on the back post).

Yes, it's not sexy but frankly we'll be needing this when sexy football isn't working.

We don't have the depth to replace the starters with a sub, using the same tactic. If the starters can't get it done, we'll need to change tactics and Fellaini offers that option.

Just get him as far away from our box as possible so he can't give away cheap free-kick
Had his best season playing as #10 / Support Striker for Everton. Agree he is useful to throw into the game with 15 mins remaining if Mata or Mkhi are having a stinker at #10 and the defence is too packed to penetrate.

So long as he doesn't start the important games in CM I'm OK with him staying. But Pogba and Herrera aside, I would also like to see Pereira get more starts than Fellaini. Pereira has a chance of being an important future player for us, while Fellaini is never going to be anything more than a backup or sub going forward.
 

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He's not.



Every manager?

Why don't Barcelona and Real Madrid have a player similar to Fellaini then? How come Ferguson never realized he needed a player like Fellaini, if only he'd been a good enough manager to realize he needed a tall specialist to lump balls up to he might have won more league titles and more european cups.

Of course thats without even mentioning that Fellaini isn't even that great in the air, and lumping balls up to him isn't even that effective.

How many headers has he scored for us?
Fellaini not being great in the air is the biggest myth going. He wins 95% of headers especially in our own half. Look at the set pieces we defend and you'll see the ball bouncing off his Afro more almost all the time.

Those teams don't have a Fellaini cause there's only one Fellaini. I can't think of another player like him. Perhaps that's why the managers like him so much.
 

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Fellaini not being great in the air is the biggest myth going. He wins 95% of headers especially in our own half. Look at the set pieces we defend and you'll see the ball bouncing off his Afro more almost all the time.

Those teams don't have a Fellaini cause there's only one Fellaini. I can't think of another player like him. Perhaps that's why the managers like him so much.
It's a stupid fecking caf myth that he's bad in the air. Sick of hearing it.
 

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Fellaini not being great in the air is the biggest myth going. He wins 95% of headers especially in our own half. Look at the set pieces we defend and you'll see the ball bouncing off his Afro more almost all the time.
He can stand in our box and head balls all day he's good at that. But thats not what you were were talking about and certainly not what i was talking about. You were speaking about Fellaini as an attacking threat, in an attacking sense i don't think he's great in the air.

He has scored how many headers for us in 4 years?

Those teams don't have a Fellaini cause there's only one Fellaini. I can't think of another player like him. Perhaps that's why the managers like him so much.
He's unique in world football now, jesus.

If he's so unique and every manager in the world would love to have him as he's so effective, then why aren't Barca, Real, PSG, Juve, Bayern etc. chasing him every summer?
 

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Trolls will say, "I don't know whats worse, this piece of news, or signing Matic'

I'd say, this quote is ass.

Why would he be too important, its a bit of overcompensation on Mourinho's behalf imo
 

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Against a pressing team we can have both Lukaku and Fellaini as options to go over the press allowing our defenders to release the ball quickly to either target man. The Ajax manager complained about Fellaini being used this way in the Europa League final, but why should we play into our opponent's hands?

Fellaini could prove even more important in the Champions League against teams with a high press.
 

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Starting to wonder whether this is on or off. I know Jose appreciates him and would rather not lose him, but maybe it's partly a ruse to drive up the price & partly a smokescreen for another transfer in. I seriously doubt he'll get an extension, so I don't see the wisdom of keeping him on when a decent offer is on the table. Maybe someone like Dendoncker is in the works, but we don't want the selling clubs ideas that extra money is on hand if Fellaini is sold beforehand.

For me, I don't mind having the big lug around, I'd be shocked if he's around after next May.

Absolutely!
I too feel he will be sold in this window itself.
It is just to make Gala pay more for him.
If we really wanted him that much, we would have offered him a new deal rather than just triggering the one year extension.
 

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It's a shame there was no truth in this one. I can see why Jose is a fan and Fellaini always gives 100% but he just isn't good enough.

My biggest issue with him is how much impact his presence in the team has on the style of play. His movement of the ball is so slow that playing through midfield is extremely difficult. Adding that to his physical presence and the team almost has to play long whenever he is on the pitch.
 

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He can stand in our box and head balls all day he's good at that. But thats not what you were were talking about and certainly not what i was talking about. You were speaking about Fellaini as an attacking threat, in an attacking sense i don't think he's great in the air.

He has scored how many headers for us in 4 years?
That's more to do with our inabilty to send in decent crosses .

Put a decent cross in and he will deliver and has proven that plus he has a lot more skill Than given credit for .

I don't see peoples problem with him ,he isn't a starter yet doesn't complain does what he is asked to do would ruin through a brick wall if asked.Has scored and assisted some very important goals at crucial times.

Iv seen players a lot worse than him play for us since fergie left and they get none of this hate in fact some get treated like they were the second coming of Eric even as a certain couldn't give a fk German springs to mind
 

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In pre season... tell me when he can do it consistently in games that actually matter. The guy is garbage and I really do hope we do away with him.

I Agree, he doesnt play the ball forward, but he is not in the team to be that guy who does that. He will be used against teams like Liverpool , where their whole ideology is based on pressing the defenders when they have the ball. Fellaini will be used as the option where De gea will go long and expect fellaini to keep the ball against Hendo/Can and start the attacking move.
We did the same at anfield however we couldnt counter much in attack.

I am hoping we sign perisic because we need that winger wing back who will put in crosses and takes on his man. Zlatan was good, but because he hardly made runs behind. defenders ganged up on martial /rashford on the wings and nullified the attack.
 

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I suppose the club will just assess his use to the team over the next year and we might well see him get a short extension

his attitude and effort are exemplary.... if only he was decent with a football

I really hope he doesn't restrict Pereira's game time but he could be useful in rotation or in chasing games in the last 15
 

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Well that statement is pretty emphatic to say the least. It's no coincidence that Fellaini has now been an integral part of the side under 3 managers and it's obvious his attitude and commitment make up for his lack of quality. However on the other hand he wouldn't get into Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern or any other top club so I don't see why he should be good enough for us.
 

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He is pain-stakingly average. Tier(s) below Pogba, Herrera and Matic and on a similar level to current Carrick but him staying is not worth getting het up about when his role is merely in a squad capacity.

It's clear Mourinho's likes him and will see a use for him, so he's going to stay irrespective.
 
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