Ivan Perisic

[Markolan]

That team has won that league 6 times in a row. I don't think think citing Juventus helps prove the point the league isn't sub par.

I think that EPL is much better than Serie A but in the last 5 years Italian teams have won more matches.

(since 2012/2013)
- Wins: 9 (Juve vs M.City (x2), Napoli Arsenal 2-0, Napoli Swansea 3-1, Inter - Saints 1-0, Inter - Tottenham 3-0, Liverpool - Udinese 2-3, Fiorentina - Tottenham 2-0 and Juventus vs Chelsea 3-0 in 2012 when Chelsea were the defending champions)
- Losses: 6 (Arsenal Napoli 2-0, Saints Inter 2-1, Tottenham Fiorentina 3-0, Tottenham Inter 3-0, City Roma 2-0, Udinese Liverpool 0-1)
- Draws: 5

EPL is stronger but Serie A is not rubbish imho

 

[acnumber9]

I think that EPL is much better than Serie A but in the last 5 years Italian teams have won more matches.

(since 2012/2013)
- Wins: 9 (Juve vs M.City (x2), Napoli Arsenal 2-0, Napoli Swansea 3-1, Inter - Saints 1-0, Inter - Tottenham 3-0, Liverpool - Udinese 2-3, Fiorentina - Tottenham 2-0 and Juventus vs Chelsea 3-0 in 2012 when Chelsea were the defending champions)
- Losses: 6 (Arsenal Napoli 2-0, Saints Inter 2-1, Tottenham Fiorentina 3-0, Tottenham Inter 3-0, City Roma 2-0, Udinese Liverpool 0-1)
- Draws: 5

EPL is stronger but Serie A is not rubbish imho

I wouldn't say it's rubbish either but Juventus doing well doesn't really prove the point given how dominant they are.

 

[Adnan]

I think that EPL is much better than Serie A but in the last 5 years Italian teams have won more matches.

(since 2012/2013)
- Wins: 9 (Juve vs M.City (x2), Napoli Arsenal 2-0, Napoli Swansea 3-1, Inter - Saints 1-0, Inter - Tottenham 3-0, Liverpool - Udinese 2-3, Fiorentina - Tottenham 2-0 and Juventus vs Chelsea 3-0 in 2012 when Chelsea were the defending champions)
- Losses: 6 (Arsenal Napoli 2-0, Saints Inter 2-1, Tottenham Fiorentina 3-0, Tottenham Inter 3-0, City Roma 2-0, Udinese Liverpool 0-1)
- Draws: 5

EPL is stronger but Serie A is not rubbish imho

Series A is a fantastic league. A league where a player is educated tactically like nowhere else.

 

[Sammyjunn]

He's clearly left footed but can use his right. It takes 5 minutes of watching him to see this and debating otherwise is just ridiculous. Neymar and Cazorla are both decent with their bad foot but they're still primarily right footed players.



An opinion on something that's subjective can rarely be factually wrong but still be horrendous. So you've got that.



It really wasn't difficult to connect the dots earlier in the window on Mourinho using him as a wing back, hence why I suggested it in the first place. He said numerous times we'd been training in a 3-5-2 system and played in it a few times in pre season as well. He also said he wanted to sign players which gave us different tactical options so that along with the consistent and reliable rumours of us being in for Perisic made it fairly obvious it would be as a LWB.

When you also add in the likelihood we resign Ibra (which Mourinho obviously has 1st hand knowledge on) and possibly Griezmann it also makes sense. Griezmann plays mostly as a 2nd striker anyway and a 3-5-2 would allow him to use both Lukaku/Ibra at the same time.

Wrong, he is right footed. He plays pre dominantly with his left foot because he plays on the left side, thats how two footed he is.

 

[Shuriken]

Series A is a fantastic league. A league where a player is educated tactically like nowhere else.

Exactly. Italian football/Serie A emphasises tactical development more than any other of the top footballing nations in Europe. Serie A gets too much undeserved slack.

Also convinced that most of the posters here criticising the league actually watch very very little of it, including some of those who will point to the contrary.

Then they watch an Italian side play in EL/CL and actually think that they've reached a final confirmed verdict based on hearsay and one or two matches in European competition.

 

[stevoc]

It really wasn't difficult to connect the dots earlier in the window on Mourinho using him as a wing back, hence why I suggested it in the first place. He said numerous times we'd been training in a 3-5-2 system and played in it a few times in pre season as well. He also said he wanted to sign players which gave us different tactical options so that along with the consistent and reliable rumours of us being in for Perisic made it fairly obvious it would be as a LWB.

When you also add in the likelihood we resign Ibra (which Mourinho obviously has 1st hand knowledge on) and possibly Griezmann it also makes sense. Griezmann plays mostly as a 2nd striker anyway and a 3-5-2 would allow him to use both Lukaku/Ibra at the same time.

I highly doubt we will be switching to 352 regardless of who we sign, in fact i doubt we will even use it more than 5-6 times this season. Maybe a bit more than that if we go far in the CL, but thats about it.

 

[Oneunited26]

Shame, he could have been really good on our right wing. I think we should just say sod it and spend the 50 odd million, nobody will remember the fee next year.

I think it would have seen him be blinds replacement at LB, which seems to be a bigger motivation and inspiration seeing how valencia converted from RW to RB

 

[Adam-Utd]

I think it would have seen him be blinds replacement at LB, which seems to be a bigger motivation and inspiration seeing how valencia converted from RW to RB

Yeah he would of been the LWB in a 3-5-2 formation, not strictly a LB.

I still think in our current formation though him on the right stretching wide would really give us a boost.

 

[Oneunited26]

Yeah he would of been the LWB in a 3-5-2 formation, not strictly a LB.

I still think in our current formation though him on the right stretching wide would really give us a boost.

I think fullback, LB, LWB what ever the system that is where he would have been used, think he wants his forward players to be a bit more flexible in interchanging positions, much like a diamond he wants his fullbacks bringing the width. Think a mix of martial, mkhi, rashford, valencia and perisic would give us untold pace. I was always against the transfer if it means we lose one of our attacking players, now has a LB he could have his uses, but? if that was the plan he may is well bought a new LB, which for me is the only weakness in this squad unless luke shaw has a miracle

 

[Adnan]

Exactly. Italian football/Serie A emphasises tactical development more than any other of the top footballing nations in Europe. Serie A gets too much undeserved slack.

Also convinced that most of the posters here criticising the league actually watch very very little of it, including some of those who will point to the contrary.

Then they watch an Italian side play in EL/CL and actually think that they've reached a final confirmed verdict based on hearsay and one or two matches in European competition.

The Italian National team is a testament to their superior tactical understanding of the game in comparison to England.

 

[Shuriken]

The Italian National team is a testament to their superior tactical understanding of the game in comparison to England.

And also many top-level coaches that come from the Italian football system.

 

[golden_blunder]

I highly doubt we will be switching to 352 regardless of who we sign, in fact i doubt we will even use it more than 5-6 times this season. Maybe a bit more than that if we go far in the CL, but thats about it.

I bet you 20 quid we use 352 more than 5 or 6 times

 

[sunama]

Assist for Icardi with his left foot.

Both players made that look very simple and easy.

 

[stevoc]

I bet you 20 quid we use 352 more than 5 or 6 times

I said in the post you quoted we could use it more than 5-6 times if we progress in the CL. So if i think that why would i make that bet?

We used it 2-3 times in the league last year, i don't see it being much different this year. Mourinho himself has said as much.

"The most important thing for me was to compete. The second important thing was to feel the players on the pitch in a system where last season we only played twice.

It is far from being our system but we were working over the last two days to try to improve, in case we decide during the season to play more matches with three at the back. So positionally it was good.''

What makes you think we will be using it regularly?

 

[christinaa]

Yesterday he scored a goal and made another with a perfect cross which would have been perfect for Lukaku.

We missed out on him.

 

[prtk0811]

So we have to continue with Ashley young.

 

[United Pro]

So we have to continue with Ashley young.

No, we have to continue with Rashford and Martial on the left wing and if we play with 5 at the back then Shaw can play as the left wing back.

 

[prtk0811]

I said in the post you quoted we could use it more than 5-6 times if we progress in the CL. So if i think that why would i make that bet?

We used it 2-3 times in the league last year, i don't see it being much different this year. Mourinho himself has said as much.



What makes you think we will be using it regularly?

Because more and more teams are playing 3 at the back with wingbacks , and to counter that system we would need to play the same for more balance. Every big team and some small teams are playing that system in the league.

 

[prtk0811]

No, we have to continue with Rashford and Martial on the left wing and if we play with 5 at the back then Shaw can play as the left wing back.

Shaw can play there , but wingback system demands very high work rate which could be a question.

 

[United Pro]

Shaw can play there , but wingback system demands very high work rate which could be a question.

Yeah I think he'll do fine given that he played that position for LVG before. He just needs some luck to stay injury free and for Mourinho to keep some faith in him. If anything, there'll probably be more question marks about whether Perisic is defensively solid enough to play there given that, I believe, he's never played as a wing back before.

 

[roonster09]

Nicked from Inter forum

 

[prateik]

So he tracked back.

 

[ti vu]

Shame, he could have been really good on our right wing. I think we should just say sod it and spend the 50 odd million, nobody will remember the fee next year.

Other clubs when we come asking for player would remember the fee...

To make my stance clear. I want Perisic, but not at all cost.

 

[K2K]

This one ends like all classical transfer sagas usually do.


With the player not joining.

So this is the transfer saga of the Summer then.

 

[roonster09]

Other clubs when we come asking for player would remember the fee...

To make my stance clear. I want Perisic, but not at all cost.

Exactly my stance. Also No martial in any sort of deal. But Perisic is very good player.

 

[Adnan]

So he tracked back.

His work rate was exceptional in the game, hence the Inter fans discussing that facet of his game on their forums.

 

[Reynoldo]

This one ends like all classical transfer sagas usually do.


With the player not joining.

So this is the transfer saga of the Summer then.

Thats pretty slack in fairness given Woodies woody for big signings.

Do we have a definitive list of the main transfer sagas for each summer down through the years?

 

[K2K]

Thats pretty slack in fairness given Woodies woody for big signings.

Do we have a definitive list of the main transfer sagas for each summer down through the years?

I think @Damien once posted something like that looking at posting stats .

 

[Oneunited26]

Yesterday he scored a goal and made another with a perfect cross which would have been perfect for Lukaku.

We missed out on him.

Inter were really being stubborn with not letting him go, when a club had a aggressive stance their player was not going to leave, its hard to get that player. Remember when we would not sell ronaldo in summer 2008, but the player was determined to go to madrid, we not seeing that from perisic, he seems happy to sign a new deal it seems

 

[giorno]

His work rate was exceptional in the game, hence the Inter fans discussing that facet of his game on their forums.

He was really bad though. Inter could have won 7-0 if he had a decent game in attack...

 

[Adnan]

He was really bad though. Inter could have won 7-0 if he had a decent game in attack...

I didn't watch the game but Inter fans on Twitter were very happy with him. In particular his work rate.

 

[Adam-Utd]

You can see why Jose loves him really. He might not be every bodies idea of the perfect wide player, but I would imagine Perisic+Willian out wide would give him a hard on.

 

[giorno]

I didn't watch the game but Inter fans on Twitter were very happy with him. In particular his work rate.

He was dire in the final third. Worked hard for the team, but ye gods, the number of great chances he wasted....

 

[Adnan]

He was dire in the final third. Worked hard for the team, but ye gods, the number of great chances he wasted....

Accept our bid then

 

[barmyarmy]

Nicked from Inter forum

Perisic should have given a transfer request. He is a typical Jose type of player and looking at our RW and ability to cross the ball he would have been a perfect signing

 

[Trizy]

The more I watch him the more I've decided I want him. He'd offer something different breaking down ''bus teams''. However, it's easy to see why United don't want to overpay. 30-35m player at most.

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

Not sure why this is even being discussed anymore, ship has sailed.

 

[Adnan]

http://forzainterforums.com/showthread.php?13195-Ivan-Peri%9Ai/page123

"Hopefully those who wanted him sold know what they're missing.

The guy has made an assist from the other wing with his weaker foot, scored a header, defended on the left side, shooted/crossed/passed with both feet, and out-sprint his markers in Gareth Bale style.

I can't stress this enough. This is a very rare type of winger. Mourinho knew exactly what he's looking at."

 

[Kasper]

He's clearly left footed but can use his right. It takes 5 minutes of watching him to see this and debating otherwise is just ridiculous. Neymar and Cazorla are both decent with their bad foot but they're still primarily right footed players.
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Such an arrogant comment and on top of it quite clearly wrong. If he's 'clearly' left footed and it takes 5 minutes to see that how come he takes penalties with his right foot?
"Debating it is just ridiculous", yeah sure mate.

 

[stygg]

Time to lock this fecking thread? Tired of getting my hopes up every time I see a new post in here.