But, but...I thought he was mediocre?
Ivan Perisic
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Serie A is a mediocre league in fairness.
It's fairly obvious.
Is it worse than the French league?
Well he isn't coming anymore so don't see the point of swooning over someone who hasn't kicked a ball for us like he is a red. I know he is a decent player and would have worked for us but it's time to let it go and end the bickering between fans.
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Dont worry lads we have Luke Shaw he's getting better the longer hes out.
It isnt, they did as well as the Prem last season in Europe fwiw.
Would he really have come here to play LWB?
Think he would've been used as a LWB in the big games only.
I was saying it would be a stupid idea and I maintain that stance.
EPL is much better than Serie A but looking at the UEFA country ranking
Italy and England are very close.
He's a top player, not signing him fecking sucks.
Mourinho is known for his stupid tactical ideas.
Okay, if it makes you feel better.
It makes me feel better to know I was absolutely right that Mourinho was planning to sign him as a LWB. And you were wrong.
Did he sign the contract extension yet?
Who Perisic, based on what?
The idea that we were trying to sign a 28 right footed winger who has never played as a wing-back to play as a left wing-back is well a bit silly. If we were switching to 352 we have just signed a left wing-back and not bothered with wingers at all.
And of course the whole discussion about us switching to 352 was nonsense anyway seeing as Mourinho clearly stated in one of his first press conferences on the US tour that 352 wouldn't never be his system but he would use it on occasion.
So I'm wrong because Mourinho might (he doesn't even specify Perisic) believe he's a good option for that position? Who's rattled your cage?
He's left footed and plays on the left for both Inter and Croatia. You don't know if he's never played as a wing back since you've prob never watched more than 2 games he's ever been in.
I never said it would be the preferred system and just because he would give us the option to play in a 3-5-2 doesn't mean he couldn't also be useful in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.
Mourinho's comments are clear. He wanted Perisic as a wingback so he could change to 3-5-2 if needed. It's almost certain that Ibra will rejoin us and possible we get Griezmann in January too, it makes perfect sense to use a 3-5-2 system when you have so many goal scoring threats who operate centrally.
Trying to claim that Mourinho isn't referring to Perisic with these comments is desperate stuff.So I'm wrong because Mourinho might (he doesn't even specify Perisic) believe he's a good option for that position? Who's rattled your cage?
He is right footed, just incredibly two footed. There is almost no difference really, even more than Neymar, Cazorla and possibly Dembele.
That's almost entirely down to Juve's success in the CL. It reflects well on them as a team more so than Serie A as a league. France are quite close as well, if you only consider the last three seasons. Give it a bit longer, and PSG will single-handedly drag up Ligue 1 in the same way.EPL is much better than Serie A but looking at the UEFA country ranking
Italy and England are very close.
He might well be but that still doesn't make me wrong.
Juve did. The rest, not so much. Inter failed to qualify from their Europa League group.
I would have liked us to sign him big time.
Some people will weirdly be happy not signing anyone instead of this guy.
He's two footed but every time i've watched him play he's seemed to favour his right for shooting and i'm not going to say i have watched him hundreds of times but i have never seen him play as a wing-back and in following this thread i've never seen anyone else claim he's ever played much as a wing-back.
They aren't really mate he could be talking about anyone. We don't even need Perisic or any other new signing to play 352, we have Young, Shaw and Blind who are all more than capable of playing as a LWB for the few games that we will use the formation this season. Between that and Mourinho saying we already have 'pure wingers' has me suspecting he was just spouting shit in general the other day.
Napoli, Roma did too.
Napoli and Roma were unlucky to find Real Madrid in the last two UCL.
Then, Napoli reached a good UEL semifinal in 2015 but AS Roma last year was awful, eliminated by Porto and Lyon..
Anyway we're OT.
To stay IT, this is the article of tomorrow's edition (21 August) of Gazzetta dello Sport:
1. Perisic is set to extend his contract (€ 5,5 mln a-year)
2. United actually tried to sign Perisic only in June, then they progressively walked away.
(Sorry if my English is not fantastic)
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He's clearly left footed but can use his right. It takes 5 minutes of watching him to see this and debating otherwise is just ridiculous. Neymar and Cazorla are both decent with their bad foot but they're still primarily right footed players.
An opinion on something that's subjective can rarely be factually wrong but still be horrendous. So you've got that.
It really wasn't difficult to connect the dots earlier in the window on Mourinho using him as a wing back, hence why I suggested it in the first place. He said numerous times we'd been training in a 3-5-2 system and played in it a few times in pre season as well. He also said he wanted to sign players which gave us different tactical options so that along with the consistent and reliable rumours of us being in for Perisic made it fairly obvious it would be as a LWB.
When you also add in the likelihood we resign Ibra (which Mourinho obviously has 1st hand knowledge on) and possibly Griezmann it also makes sense. Griezmann plays mostly as a 2nd striker anyway and a 3-5-2 would allow him to use both Lukaku/Ibra at the same time.
Perisic is right footed player who can use his left extremely well.
Also in general (not replying to you) Some Bayern fan said his weaker foot isn't that strong and some United fans latched on to that to use it against Perisic saying "he isn't even that 2 footed player". He is as good as they come.
We should be aiming a bit higher than a journeyman winger who never stood out in any league he was in.
What does Perisic needs to do to get rated? I keep seeing people coming out with different reasons not to get him. First it was, it will eat into Martial's playing time. Then, it was because he isn't productive enough. Now that one of our CAF members posted that he is directly involved in 6 of Inter's last 11 matches, they say the Seria A is rubbish.
I strongly believe Perisic would bring additional balance to our team. Wouldn't it be much more beneficial for Mata/Mkhi + Perisic than Mata + Mkhi? Since both of them keep running into each other, congesting the center and always wants the ball to their feet. No one bar Lukaku in our team is really making lots of off the ball runs. We need that. Not another flashy but demands the ball to their feet players.
I strongly believe Perisic would bring additional balance to our team. Wouldn't it be much more beneficial for Mata/Mkhi + Perisic than Mata + Mkhi? Since both of them keep running into each other, congesting the center and always wants the ball to their feet. No one bar Lukaku in our team is really making lots of off the ball runs. We need that. Not another flashy but demands the ball to their feet players.
Answer: unless he gets signed and performs; people would be in denial forever. In case a Perisic indeed stays at Inter, then no amount of evidence of him at Inter would cut through people's personal perspective. The best both sides can do is agreeing to disagree and move on.
Like we should have been aiming higher than a Chelsea reject, and a big lumbering donkey of a striker from Everton. Should have bought the amazing Fabinho instead of Matic. Should have bought Aubameyang instead of Lukaku. That's all we heard for weeks. Same shit with Perisic. Armchair experts on here know nothing about building a functional team.
Which comments are those? Don't recall him mentioning him by name. I do recall him saying he was seeking a wingback, but never mentioning whom he was referring to.
Think he was never first choice and for the money they are asking clearly we are not willing to make a deal. I dont think he signs a deal before transfer window shuts in the hope we sign him. He will sign a new deal if we dont after the window shuts. On our part, i think we know the price they will let him go for and unless another target we are chasing or a better option does not say yes we may go back for him in the final 3-4 days.
just to remind you that "mediocre league " had a team in the champions league final , when was the last time a premier league team was . The premier league is overrated and over hyped which becomes very evident anytime an English team plays any of Europe's big clubs.
That team has won that league 6 times in a row. I don't think think citing Juventus helps prove the point the league isn't sub par.
Shame, he could have been really good on our right wing. I think we should just say sod it and spend the 50 odd million, nobody will remember the fee next year.
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