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Ryan Giggs | Interviewed for Wales job

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Are we just ignoring him saying it's not just Premier League clubs? Why wouldn't he be interested? He specifically points out lots of coaches would be interested. Why bother applying logic when you can rinse and repeat the same tired, old rhetoric though?
Ever heard him pipe up when a League One manager gets the sack? Me neither.
 

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Ever heard him pipe up when a League One manager gets the sack? Me neither.
What are you on about?
"I think you look at those two teams, Leicester being champions two seasons ago, Everton being a fantastic club with a fantastic history, for me these are clubs I would be interested in.

"However, there are a lot of coaches out there who would be interested in those positions.

"I've said all along that I'd be open to clubs which share the ambitions of myself. I want to improve clubs and improve players, to enjoy working for them and for players to enjoy the challenge.

"There are clubs in the Premier League which would be good jobs but also in the Championship and League One. It's more about the philosophy for me than the stature of the club."'
 

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Which League One club is he talking about there?
He was answering a direct question about two clubs the interviewer mentioned, but then side-stepped it in order to mention the whole of the Championship and League One. He literally changed the subject so as to bring up those two leagues. And, fwiw, nobody needlessly namechecks individual clubs before they've made official contact. It's called professionalism. You' don't undermine existing managers.
 

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He was answering a direct question about two clubs the interviewer mentioned, but then side-stepped it in order to mention the whole of the Championship and League One. He literally changed the subject so as to bring up those two leagues. And, fwiw, nobody needlessly namechecks individual clubs before they've made official contact. It's called professionalism.
Right, so none. Thanks.
 

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The last few pages of this thread have been a disgrace. I don't know what's happening to people around here these last few weeks.

Even if he wanted the Everton/Leicester kind of job, which he didn't. The people that know actually how to read are aware of that. We should root for him and hope that he does well if he ever got a job like that.

Pep didn't have to prove himself, Zidane didn't. They got a chance at Madrid and Barcelona. Why shouldn't he get a chance at effing Everton or Leicester!

I Read someone saying he didn't show anything in the 4 games he was caretaker in the moyes year, are you listening to yourself mate?

It's really crazy.
 

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I think it would be the most amazing thing to see the class of 92 in the dugout one day. Though my figurehead would be Beckham and not Giggs.
 

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You want him to undermine existing managers? He never pipes up about PL clubs either, except in the most generic ways when answering direct questions.
In 'interviews' that are very conveniently timed, don't you think? Oldham and Gillingham sacked their managers recently. Both League One clubs. Any public interest from Giggs?
 

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In 'interviews' that are very conveniently timed, don't you think? Oldham and Gillingham sacked their managers recently. Both League One clubs. Any public interest from Giggs?
Media conspiracy theories? Feck me, you're setting a low bar for yourself.

He wouldn't need to express interest via interviews. Football doesn't work that way. Negotiations are done behind doors and everyone denies interest until contracts are signed. If anything, he's undercut his own position by mentioning other managers. Read what he's said. He's talking about his ambitions and his willingness to work at a lower level, and gone out of his way to say so despite not needing to do it.

Of course he's not going to mention a specific club. It's a ridiculous standard to apply to him when nobody else does it.
 

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Sean dyche is the favorite for Everton.

And people are criticizing Giggs in here!

What did Dyche show to be the favorite for the Everton job?
 

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Media conspiracy theories? Feck me, you're setting a low bar for yourself.
I would have accepted 'no'. You aren't very good at answering questions.

He wouldn't need to express interest via interviews.
Yet he has. The timing is a coincidence, of course. Just having a friendly chat with Sky Sports. Oh, and just after Koeman got the boot. Probably been scheduled for months, though.

Football doesn't work that way. Negotiations are done behind doors and everyone denies interest until contracts are signed. If anything, he's undercut his own position by mentioning other managers. Read what he's said. He's talking about his ambitions and his willingness to work at a lower level, and gone out of his way to say so despite not needing to do it.
Thank you for your insider expertise on how football works. Very informative and coming from someone with vast experience in the field, no doubt.

Of course he's not going to mention a specific club. It's a ridiculous standard to apply to him when nobody else does it.
He mentioned that he's interested in two. So you're kind of correct. And of course, all of those Championship and League One clubs that he's interested in. This is probably pointless, given your track record in answering questions, but how many jobs has he applied for that you know of? There's Swansea (PL club) who rejected him. There's us. Any others?
 

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I am very keen to see him get a job and get this bloody thought-experiment over with.
 

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Yet he has. The timing is a coincidence, of course. Just having a friendly chat with Sky Sports. Oh, and just after Koeman got the boot. Probably been scheduled for months, though.
The interview was part of the "Super 6 Class of '92 Diary" which has been a regular feature since at least August. So yes it probably has been scheduled for months.
 

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The interview was part of the "Super 6 Class of '92 Diary" which has been a regular feature since at least August. So yes it probably has been scheduled for months.
Everyone knows that the Welsh control the media and the world banks.
 

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The interview was part of the "Super 6 Class of '92 Diary" which has been a regular feature since at least August. So yes it probably has been scheduled for months.
You would agree that he has used it to make his interest in both jobs known, though, yes? And that he didn't use it last month to express his interest in the vacant Oldham job? Or the vacant Gillingham job?
 

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You would agree that he has used it to make his interest in both jobs known, though, yes? And that he didn't use it last month to express his interest in the vacant Oldham job? Or the vacant Gillingham job?
In fairness - perhaps he stayed away from the Oldham-one because he knew how much Scholes wanted it ?
 

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You would agree that he has used it to make his interest in both jobs known, though, yes? And that he didn't use it last month to express his interest in the vacant Oldham job? Or the vacant Gillingham job?
Are seriously you wondering why he doesn't comment on every single managerial change in every league in his Sky Sports News interviews?
 

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I would have liked to have seen Giggs given the under 23 job. Would have given him a good platform to perform much like it did with Ole, who went on to get PL jobs of the back of the work he done. Would have been great for the kids to be brought up the United way with the same standards and he would have placed himself right in contention to be the next manager or even long time caretaker if Mou ever goes. I also think he knows the club inside and out and I think he would do a better job at United than he would at a lower end PL club.
 
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Are seriously you wondering why he doesn't comment on every single managerial change in every league in his Sky Sports News interviews?
He commented on both of these.

I'm saying that he's primarily interested in walking into a PL job and that his talk of Championship and League One is merely lip service.

I would very much like to see him take a job in football management. Any job. Just so we can find out whether he's cut out for it, or not. The Life of Ryan footage, however brief, would suggest not. But who knows. The longer he sits on his ass, the less likely it is that someone takes a chance on him.
 

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Someone must be thinking he's worth a punt by now.. Clearly most of the managers in the EPL are stealing a living.
 

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He commented on both of these.

I'm saying that he's primarily interested in walking into a PL job and that his talk of Championship and League One is merely lip service.

I would very much like to see him take a job in football management. Any job. Just so we can find out whether he's cut out for it, or not. The Life of Ryan footage, however brief, would suggest not. But who knows. The longer he sits on his ass, the less likely it is that someone takes a chance on him.
You seem to be missing a very important point. Let me give you some clues:

National news interview

Everton

Gillingham
 

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Arguably because if they get that first gig wrong, they're done and will never get a PL opportunity.

If they fail at a prem club, there are still far more opportunities to go for afterwards.
Thats just the thing ain't it? These ex-players are interested in managing at a certain level not necessarily managing, if you have a passion for something doing it in the big leagues will just be a bonus not the main course.
 

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Sean dyche is the favorite for Everton.

And people are criticizing Giggs in here!

What did Dyche show to be the favorite for the Everton job?
Don't think you could've sounded more clueless if you tried :lol:
 

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Would love to see Giggs at Everton just to see how he does and the style of play he wants to bring out on the players.
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing some f the Class of 92 as managers, but I just wonder if they do, what would happen if they drew Salford in the FA Cup?

Could they be allowed to be an owner of one club, and a manager of another in the same match?!

Would they be forced to sell up if they were to be appointed as a manager?
 

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Giggs is one of ours. If he wants to manage a big EPL club, what's the big deal? We must respect his ambition.

Let him first fail at a club, then bring out your daggers.
 

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Sean dyche is the favorite for Everton.

And people are criticizing Giggs in here!

What did Dyche show to be the favorite for the Everton job?

You can’t be serious. Dyche is a good manager working miracles at Burnley.

I remember after he didn’t get the Swansea job the rumours going round was he completely fluffed the interview and came across like someone who didn’t have a fecking clue on management.

I’ve got no problem with him wanting to try but he should drop down the leagues and learn his way he’s not ready for the prem.
 

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You can’t be serious. Dyche is a good manager working miracles at Burnley.

I remember after he didn’t get the Swansea job the rumours going round was he completely fluffed the interview and came across like someone who didn’t have a fecking clue on management.

I’ve got no problem with him wanting to try but he should drop down the leagues and learn his way he’s not ready for the prem.
So if we believe that story about him failing his Swansea interview, we are supposed to just write him off totally from further possible interviews??

Have you never had one poor interview for a job before, but done well in others?

I don't really think too much weight should be put onto him having supposedly one poor interview.

Also as for starting from the bottom, remind me again at what stage the current England head coach started from?