Chelsea 2017/18 thread - FA Cup Champs, League chumps

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What makes this loss even worse is Watford had the worst away record and they missed few players because of injuries.

Btw when is Morata back?
Chelsea lost at Watford and not Bridge. So that's besides the point.

Morata will be back by the time they play the Champions league.
 

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BBC news this morning said the last 5 WINNING prem managers have all been sacked the next season, I was pretty astounded by that stat.

I assume Mourinho/Ranieri/Mancini can't think of the others off the top of my head.
Well the manager of the last 5 champions have been sacked. That's the truth.

Moyes
Pellegrini
Jose
Ranieri
Conte(I guess?)

Ancelotti and Mancini, Jose before that too. The last title winning manager who wasn't sacked is Ferguson. Everyone else pretty much departed otherwise.
 

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I think he's genuinely looking out. He knows he can just about any job in Italy should it please him and he's looking more jaded with every week. The lack of reaction to Hazard's goal said it all, he's not the same manager he was last season.

I do think Mourinho has got under his skin as well - Probably one of the highlights of this country to Conte was the escape from his pretty shady past. Most weren't even aware of the scandal until Jose made it headline news once again. Not sure people realize how personally he'll have taken that insult.

Not sure if it's a good or bad thing if he makes it to the Old Trafford fixture.
 

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Chelsea lost at Watford and not Bridge. So that's besides the point.

Morata will be back by the time they play the Champions league.
It was a typo. Watford had the worst home record before this game.
 

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BBC news this morning said the last 5 WINNING prem managers have all been sacked the next season, I was pretty astounded by that stat.

I assume Mourinho/Ranieri/Mancini can't think of the others off the top of my head.
Are they including SAF in that? He wasn't strictly sacked!
 

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Well the manager of the last 5 champions have been sacked. That's the truth.

Moyes
Pellegrini
Jose
Ranieri
Conte(I guess?)

Ancelotti and Mancini, Jose before that too. The last title winning manager who wasn't sacked is Ferguson. Everyone else pretty much departed otherwise.
It bodes well for Pep then! :D
 

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Are they including SAF in that? He wasn't strictly sacked!
They didn't actually say who, just said the last 5 league winners have all been sacked the next season. Perhaps they were wrong.
 

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Atm they look like a team most likely to get out of top 4, so I genuinely think they will pull the plug. He obviously fell out with Roman, didn't get the players he wanted and would go anyway at the end of the season. Was hoping to see one last battle with Jose, though.

But, if the rumours about Enrique replacing him are true, I'm not sure they will do much better. A baffling club, you could argue that they are the most successful EPL club in last 4 seasons when you look at trophies, but despite that, capable of imploding at any given time.
 

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Chelsea buys players without Manager permission is not new, Did Conte do his homework before he sign for them?
I understand Conte's frustration but its his own doing.
Crying about signing now is silly, you don't like it then resign from your post.
True, but they generally used to buy decent ones that any manager would be delighted with. In summer 2014 they signed Courtois, Fabregas and Costa. It’s only over the last three years that the standard of signing has dropped off. Jose’s complaints about the failure to strengthen in 2015 got drowned out by the noise surrounding his “meltdown”.
 

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Atm they look like a team most likely to get out of top 4, so I genuinely think they will pull the plug. He obviously fell out with Roman, didn't get the players he wanted and would go anyway at the end of the season. Was hoping to see one last battle with Jose, though.

But, if the rumours about Enrique replacing him are true, I'm not sure they will do much better. A baffling club, you could argue that they are the most successful EPL club in last 4 seasons when you look at trophies, but despite that, capable of imploding at any given time.
Apart from C.V. doping at Barcelona, what has Luis Enrique actually achieved as a manager?
His stint at Roma wasn't all that impressive was it?
 

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Apart from C.V. doping at Barcelona, what has Luis Enrique actually achieved as a manager?
His stint at Roma wasn't all that impressive was it?
That Roma stint is exactly why I think it's a big gamble. Great record with Barca, but that has to be taken with the benefit of doubt, since he had Messi, Suarez, Neymar up front.
 

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Chelsea fans: Who is in charge of signings at Chelsea? Drinkwater, Zappacosta, Bakayoko, Barkley etc. just appear to be very unambitious signings. Also letting go of Matic was odd.
 

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Are they including SAF in that? He wasn't strictly sacked!
David Icke says the club did a plea bargain deal with the authorities to make it look like a resignation as Operation Yewtree closed in. Lukaku knew and agreed to score a hatrick in the distraction 5 - 5 draw against West Brom. The SAF that sits in the directors box at games is Saddam Hussein's former body double. Conte knows and he's terrified.
 

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He almost looks and sounds like he is waiting for the axe to fall - despite his "I am not worried" speech in the press conference, maybe what he really meant was he knows it is coming and he's not worried about it, just waiting for it to come. Either way, I think the chances of him being there next season are zero, whether he leaves or is sacked, he's probably hoping to be sacked so he leaves with some money in his pocket.
I think if they lose to West Brom next Monday his job will be hanging by a thread.
 

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That Roma stint is exactly why I think it's a big gamble. Great record with Barca, but that has to be taken with the benefit of doubt, since he had Messi, Suarez, Neymar up front.
It is similar to how Brenden is C.V. doping up in Scotland, I just don't see what Luis Enrique would bring to the club, his track record away from Barcelona is not exactly the best, so it just puzzles me why he seems to be almost a shoe in for the job.
 

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I think this time the manager is the one who turned on the players, it appears that he simply has no trust in their quality.
 

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Sorry but 'Conte's wig' actually has me in fits of laughter :lol:
 

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If they're really chasing Enrique, that will be a great appointment, but for everyone else competing with Chelsea on anything.

Enrique won't last more than one season.
 

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It is similar to how Brenden is C.V. doping up in Scotland, I just don't see what Luis Enrique would bring to the club, his track record away from Barcelona is not exactly the best, so it just puzzles me why he seems to be almost a shoe in for the job.
Because he managed Barca. Roman wanted Pep and since that's no longer possible, he's going for pound shop Pep in Lucho.
 

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Chelsea fans: Who is in charge of signings at Chelsea? Drinkwater, Zappacosta, Bakayoko, Barkley etc. just appear to be very unambitious signings. Also letting go of Matic was odd.
It's hard to say who's actually in charge but it certainly isn't the manager. I know Marina Granovskaia has quite a lot of power behind the scenes and appears to be the main person in regards to transfers and negotiations

The signings since 2016 have all been mostly underwhelming tbh. Kante is the only one who you can call an actual world class player. Zappacosta was our 4th-5th choice for RWB and was a total panic signing
It is similar to how Brenden is C.V. doping up in Scotland, I just don't see what Luis Enrique would bring to the club, his track record away from Barcelona is not exactly the best, so just puzzles me why he seems to be almost a shoe in for the job.

In all honestly I can't see many managers wanting the Chelsea job right now. No control over transfers, expected to compete on all fronts while the board sign average players for you, the board failing to sign almost all your targets, possibly won't even be in the Champions League next season...

Sadly Luis Enrique is the best we could hope for right now.

Apparently before Pep took the City job he rejected us due to the fact our team needed a complete overhaul, before Hiddink left he said this squad needs some serious work doing to it, Conte has constantly said that this team needs new players in the first 11, yet the board have took no notice and just continued to sign average, cheap players who in no way improve our first team

250 million spent on new players in the Summer and Winter transfer windows and not one of them have improved the first 11.
 

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Its the constant moaning and whining that has brought to his downfall.He has acted like a spoiled kid, just get on with your job and not bring negativity to the room. Furthermore, you don't need a team filled with superstars to beat a Watford and Bournemouth. Conte has been acting as if he is managing a shit team who deserve to be relegated. He has just lost it and thats all doing of his own. He should ave been professional and tried to finish the season without making unnecessary noise.
 

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It's hard to say who's actually in charge but it certainly isn't the manager. I know Marina Granovskaia has quite a lot of power behind the scenes and appears to be the main person in regards to transfers and negotiations

The signings since 2016 have all been mostly underwhelming tbh. Kante is the only one who you can call an actual world class player. Zappacosta was our 4th-5th choice for RWB and was a total panic signing
He evidently doesn't have final say (few managers do but for some reason it's considered a crime with us) but he has some say, our sudden urge to shop in Serie A and go for targetmen is hardly a coincidence.
 

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Change the thread title to 'Conte Partido' please .
 

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Its the constant moaning and whining that has brought to his downfall.He has acted like a spoiled kid, just get on with your job and not bring negativity to the room. Furthermore, you don't need a team filled with superstars to beat a Watford and Bournemouth. Conte has been acting as if he is managing a shit team who deserve to be relegated. He has just lost it and thats all doing of his own. He should ave been professional and tried to finish the season without making unnecessary noise.
That's all true. I also do not understand his stubbornness or inflexibility when it comes to team selection. We already had big problems against Bournemouth. Why he did choose to play the same way against Watford is unfathomable to me!
 

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I think he's genuinely looking out. He knows he can just about any job in Italy should it please him and he's looking more jaded with every week. The lack of reaction to Hazard's goal said it all, he's not the same manager he was last season.

I do think Mourinho has got under his skin as well - Probably one of the highlights of this country to Conte was the escape from his pretty shady past. Most weren't even aware of the scandal until Jose made it headline news once again. Not sure people realize how personally he'll have taken that insult.

Not sure if it's a good or bad thing if he makes it to the Old Trafford fixture.
That's the way I see it too.

Conte looks like the type to take things like that personally.

Mourinho is a psychological warfare specialist, remember him even getting under SAF's skin who was the master of the psycho wars himself.
 

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Would Conte sell us kante?

Honestly hope Chelsea tumble back into the pit of meaningless also rans, they were the catalyst for the modern day sugar daddy club and I’d love them to meet a similar demise to Gretna.