Film Black Panther

Sylar

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
40,667
WTF does any of this have to of with Black Panther :mad::mad:
 

Nikhil

New Member
Joined
Jan 3, 2007
Messages
2,348
Location
Form is temporary, bans are permanent.
Hollywood churning out films that are either adapted from novels, comic books, remakes or part of a series. Hardly anything original, at least for the popular films nowadays.

Lack of creativity by studios. They all want to make movies that are remakes of popular films or part of a popular film series since that's where the money is. Even Mark Hamill said "Remember kids, it's not important that it's good, as long as it makes money."

Toy Story 4, Lion King, Jungle Book, the new Star Wars trilogy and another 10 Star Wars films that Disney will stuff down people's throats, 5 Marvel films that they seem to churn out yearly.
 

cyberman

Full Member
Joined
May 26, 2010
Messages
37,331
This was always going to be a hit, even if it has half of the quality critics say it has.
All star black cast, fantastic black director with all of the blurbs about how well they portray Africa. (Its a made up country with as much relevence to Africa as the Death Star)
Its like Wonder Woman which was another guaranteed smash imo, subtly pushing itself as a cultural milestone ensures a massive audience from the get go.
 

harshad

Play the odds, not the man - Poor man's Harvey
Scout
Joined
Jan 23, 2010
Messages
12,191
Location
On a long road that returns to Old Trafford!!!
Hollywood churning out films that are either adapted from novels, comic books, remakes or part of a series. Hardly anything original, at least for the popular films nowadays.

Lack of creativity by studios. They all want to make movies that are remakes of popular films or part of a popular film series since that's where the money is. Even Mark Hamill said "Remember kids, it's not important that it's good, as long as it makes money."

Toy Story 4, Lion King, Jungle Book, the new Star Wars trilogy and another 10 Star Wars films that Disney will stuff down people's throats, 5 Marvel films that they seem to churn out yearly.
What's the problem with novels or comic books?
 

parkthebuslads

Full Member
Joined
Apr 8, 2009
Messages
855
Hopefully critics will be more honest and accurate with their reviews for this than they were with Luke Cage, although I can understand the pressure to celebrate such content regardless of quality.

Does look good though!
 

Ubik

Nothing happens until something moves!
Joined
Jul 8, 2010
Messages
19,093
You've seen it? :drool:

I'm tied up drawing contracts all week, so Friday night I will get to watch!
I have :drool:

Up there with the best Marvels for me. The cast is legit great.
 

decorativeed

Full Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2009
Messages
12,549
Location
Tameside
Hollywood churning out films that are either adapted from novels, comic books, remakes or part of a series. Hardly anything original, at least for the popular films nowadays.

Lack of creativity by studios. They all want to make movies that are remakes of popular films or part of a popular film series since that's where the money is. Even Mark Hamill said "Remember kids, it's not important that it's good, as long as it makes money."

Toy Story 4, Lion King, Jungle Book, the new Star Wars trilogy and another 10 Star Wars films that Disney will stuff down people's throats, 5 Marvel films that they seem to churn out yearly.
"Hollywood in creating popular culture shocker!"

With this insightful post I'm sure we will all now take stock of the fact we enjoy the occasional (thrice yearly) big screen sci-fi-pop film and renowned and critically acclaimed Pixar fare and swear instead to only watch the thousands of independent films which are somehow still being made and equally well received in spite of the big studio productions. In fact, it's almost as though it's always been like that, now I think of it.
 

Nikhil

New Member
Joined
Jan 3, 2007
Messages
2,348
Location
Form is temporary, bans are permanent.
"Hollywood in creating popular culture shocker!"

With this insightful post I'm sure we will all now take stock of the fact we enjoy the occasional (thrice yearly) big screen sci-fi-pop film and renowned and critically acclaimed Pixar fare and swear instead to only watch the thousands of independent films which are somehow still being made and equally well received in spite of the big studio productions. In fact, it's almost as though it's always been like that, now I think of it.
You know I was referring to the high grossing films that are new concepts. Things that made waves when they first came out. Blade Runner, the first Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, the first Toy Story, The Incredibles, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction.

Blade Runner, Jurassic Park, Toy Story, The Incredibles are all being/have been remade now. I was talking about the highest grossing films.

Where is the creativity from the big studios now? Which studios and filmmakers are courageous enough to try something new? Studio Ghibli and Hayao Miyazaki (now retired) are admirable. Isao Takahata and the others should be commended on their amazing original body of work.
 

Spark

Full Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2012
Messages
2,335
You know I was referring to the high grossing films that are new concepts. Things that made waves when they first came out. Blade Runner, the first Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, the first Toy Story, The Incredibles, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction.

Blade Runner, Jurassic Park, Toy Story, The Incredibles are all being/have been remade now. I was talking about the highest grossing films.

Where is the creativity from the big studios now? Which studios and filmmakers are courageous enough to try something new? Studio Ghibli and Hayao Miyazaki (now retired) are admirable. Isao Takahata and the others should be commended on their amazing original body of work.
Sorry to be a pedant but Blade Runner was an adaption of Philip K Dicks novel, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

Jurassic Park is an adaptation of Michael Crichton’s novel of the same name. (Also wrote The Lost World).

Goodfellas is an adaptation of Wise Guys by Nicholas Pileggi - although it’s non-fiction.

All Tarentino films are original screenplays, I believe. Likewise, around Oscar season (I.e. now), loads of films come out that are either adaptations, as you describe, or original screenplays. Then it’s blockbuster season in the summer, with a few big ones saved for winter.

Always been like this.
 

Ubik

Nothing happens until something moves!
Joined
Jul 8, 2010
Messages
19,093
You know I was referring to the high grossing films that are new concepts. Things that made waves when they first came out. Blade Runner, the first Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, the first Toy Story, The Incredibles, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction.

Blade Runner, Jurassic Park, Toy Story, The Incredibles are all being/have been remade now. I was talking about the highest grossing films.
Blade Runner was a flop on release and a novel adaptation. Jurassic Park was a novel adaptation. Stuff like Star Wars and the Matrix (you didn't mention it but it's another example of the same type) both took heavily from other material and repackaged it. Pixar just released Coco, material just as original as Toy Story and the Incredibles. Saving Private Ryan is a war film, no different than Dunkirk in that. Etc.

We're currently in an age of comic book films, just like the 50s and 60s were an age of westerns. There's still plenty of good stuff elsewhere if it isn't your bag.
 

decorativeed

Full Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2009
Messages
12,549
Location
Tameside
You know I was referring to the high grossing films that are new concepts. Things that made waves when they first came out. Blade Runner, the first Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, the first Toy Story, The Incredibles, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction.

Blade Runner, Jurassic Park, Toy Story, The Incredibles are all being/have been remade now. I was talking about the highest grossing films.

Where is the creativity from the big studios now? Which studios and filmmakers are courageous enough to try something new? Studio Ghibli and Hayao Miyazaki (now retired) are admirable. Isao Takahata and the others should be commended on their amazing original body of work.
I don't know, maybe Guillermo del Torro, Wes Anderson, Paul Thomas Anderson, Alejandro Iñárritu, Damien Chazelle, Spike Jonze to name but a few fairly mainstream filmmakers who have all had recent success and critical acclaim. That's not to mention the likes of Ryan Coogler and Taika Waititi who have only gone on to make these types of films due to what they achieved with their earlier films.
 

Welsh Wonder

A dribbling mess on the sauce
Joined
Dec 11, 2007
Messages
12,233
Location
Wales
Blade Runner was a flop on release and a novel adaptation. Jurassic Park was a novel adaptation. Stuff like Star Wars and the Matrix (you didn't mention it but it's another example of the same type) both took heavily from other material and repackaged it. Pixar just released Coco, material just as original as Toy Story and the Incredibles. Saving Private Ryan is a war film, no different than Dunkirk in that. Etc.

We're currently in an age of comic book films, just like the 50s and 60s were an age of westerns. There's still plenty of good stuff elsewhere if it isn't your bag.
I haven't watched Coco yet but the concept doesn't sound too dissimilar to the underrated (imo) Book of Life http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2262227/
 

VBI

Full Member
Joined
Mar 9, 2017
Messages
681
Supports
Celtic, Barca
Just back from seeing it. It's tight. Go see it. I don't want to spoil anything, but the villain and the hero both have really credible, believable motivations and views for their actions which makes them very strong as characters. The music is also excellent, I'm not sure the exact instruments, but those ones that sound like hollow sticks being hit together in particular, it's a really pleasing sound to the ear. Visually exciting, with a decent but not overdone amount of humour.

Seriously go see it.
 

kps88

Full Member
Joined
Feb 12, 2008
Messages
22,520
Just back from seeing it. It's tight. Go see it. I don't want to spoil anything, but the villain and the hero both have really credible, believable motivations and views for their actions which makes them very strong as characters. The music is also excellent, I'm not sure the exact instruments, but those ones that sound like hollow sticks being hit together in particular, it's a really pleasing sound to the ear. Visually exciting, with a decent but not overdone amount of humour.

Seriously go see it.
Does the music in the film include songs from the Kendrick soundtrack or is it all score? No spoilers please.
 

Di Maria's angel

Captain of Moanchester United
Joined
Mar 19, 2014
Messages
14,835
Location
London
feck sakes. Went to watch this last night and it was sold out in every cinema around West London. Never realised that its so anticipated.
 

Cal?

CR7 fan
Joined
Mar 18, 2002
Messages
34,977
Hollywood churning out films that are either adapted from novels, comic books, remakes or part of a series. Hardly anything original, at least for the popular films nowadays.

Lack of creativity by studios. They all want to make movies that are remakes of popular films or part of a popular film series since that's where the money is. Even Mark Hamill said "Remember kids, it's not important that it's good, as long as it makes money."

Toy Story 4, Lion King, Jungle Book, the new Star Wars trilogy and another 10 Star Wars films that Disney will stuff down people's throats, 5 Marvel films that they seem to churn out yearly.
Welcome to capitalism
 

VBI

Full Member
Joined
Mar 9, 2017
Messages
681
Supports
Celtic, Barca
Does the music in the film include songs from the Kendrick soundtrack or is it all score? No spoilers please.
There are a couple of bits with modern pop/Western music so I think so, although I don't know enough about the soundtrack to confirm if specific songs are in it.
 

20solskjaer

Full Member
Joined
Dec 7, 2005
Messages
3,442
The only songs from the kendrick lamar soundtrack in the film are

Opps by vince staples
Pray for me by kendrick/the weeknd
All the stars by kendrick/SZA

Everything else is from the score
 

Kapardin

New Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2017
Messages
9,917
Location
Chennai, India
This was always going to be a hit, even if it has half of the quality critics say it has.
All star black cast, fantastic black director with all of the blurbs about how well they portray Africa. (Its a made up country with as much relevence to Africa as the Death Star)
Its like Wonder Woman which was another guaranteed smash imo, subtly pushing itself as a cultural milestone ensures a massive audience from the get go.
Spot on.

Though, I dunno how this is being touted as the bestest black superhero ever. I mean, nothing can come close to the badassery that was Wesley Snipes in the Blade trilogy.:drool:
 

VP89

Pogba's biggest fan
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
32,685
The only songs from the kendrick lamar soundtrack in the film are

Opps by vince staples
Pray for me by kendrick/the weeknd
All the stars by kendrick/SZA

Everything else is from the score
Surprised they didn't include his black panther song.
 

Dirty Schwein

Has a 'Best of Britney Spears' album
Joined
Feb 6, 2012
Messages
33,334
Location
Miracle World
Supports
Luton Town
I just can't get excited for this because A: I'm fed up of superhero movies and B: the character just seems super boring.
 

Minkaro

Full Member
Joined
May 1, 2009
Messages
11,651
Spot on.

Though, I dunno how this is being touted as the bestest black superhero ever. I mean, nothing can come close to the badassery that was Wesley Snipes in the Blade trilogy.:drool:
I think you mean Steel? Show Shaq the respect he deserves.
 

Kostur

海尔的老板
Joined
Mar 8, 2012
Messages
28,749
Location
Poland, Kraków
The only songs from the kendrick lamar soundtrack in the film are

Opps by vince staples
Pray for me by kendrick/the weeknd
All the stars by kendrick/SZA

Everything else is from the score
So basically the best three tracks on the album, fine by me.
 

Sylar

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2007
Messages
40,667
Just back from seeing it. It's tight. Go see it. I don't want to spoil anything, but the villain and the hero both have really credible, believable motivations and views for their actions which makes them very strong as characters. The music is also excellent, I'm not sure the exact instruments, but those ones that sound like hollow sticks being hit together in particular, it's a really pleasing sound to the ear. Visually exciting, with a decent but not overdone amount of humour.

Seriously go see it.
Agreed esp about the hero and villain motivation
Marvel has a tendancy to always go the same way with villains
This was a little bit different imo and it worked

The cast were great even the side characters
The use of music was brilliant
The whole thing looked great
Saw it in 3D and it was perfectly done for it

This might be the best thing marvel have done so far from beginning to end
And a great lead in to April and infinity war
 

meamth

New Member
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Messages
5,946
Location
Malaysia
Spoiler alert***********


People said that Wokanda is a brilliant concept in this movie.

I don’t buy that s***, Wokanda to me is like what kleau said “They are savages”

I can’t believe how a technological advanced country still use Monarchy as their ruling system. Hence the plot when a clear unworthy mentally conflicted challenger like Killmonger can move the most important plot. They just have to follow the rules and let their most beloved King almost killed. That’s stupid that’s why the human race moved forward to modernization because monarchy is fecking useless!

And i can’t even describe how primitive the final battle at the end. They have laser beams and still having war using spears and rhinos. What’s with that blue barrier thingy?

how does Wokanda thrive in economy if they don’t trade their vibranium?

So they have all the commercialization and industrialization in one underwhelming city?

Where was the people in the city? I feel hollow watching it, there’s no media broadcast for coronation of T’Chala which is fking mental. So the next moment they change a king, the people of Wokanda is clueless and that is bullshyte.

And the problem with Vibranium, there’s not a single explanation what can Vibranium do! What is it? isn’t just a freaking metal? If it’s not, where does it get the power from?

And yet this movie gained 90%+ in rotten tomatoes with 8/10 average rating

EDIT:


Oh and here's another thing for you to rage.
The father of killmonger, Instead of betraying his people and getting killed..Why didn't he challenged t'chaka for the throne instead?