Our midfield is bad. We need a possession recycling player. We need a lot of additions, but then its the matter of gelling with the team. Also wc year, so short pre season
Ogden: Mourinho eyes Man United clear-out
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Not one of our centre backs are good enough for the top level IMO. We need to lose 3 and buy 2, one a guaranteed starter.
I can only take what evidence I see on the surface, there have been times Pogba has looked like he's sulking on the pitch but then again there are other times where he seems to love Mourinho;
You're forgetting Jose says any player that knocks on my door and asks to leave i let them leave, with the obvious players we can guess that might be in the clear out i can see 2 big players asking to leave too and Jose letting them go if their agents find them another club that is willing to pay their wages
They are all good enough. We will never have a classic CB partnership like we did with Rio and Vidic since the likes of Baiily, Rojo, and Jones aren't likely to be fit all the time, which is presumably one of the reasons we bought Lindelof - for general depth at the position.
So it’s patchy if you ignore Pogba’s entire time here and concentrate only on the past 7 weeks or so? And if you focus on a World Class player who’s been here 5 minutes taking a little time to adapt.
Or... if you add in a striker that scored 28 goals last season.
Yup, then it’s ”patchy”.
You really think so? I think distribution is more important as ever in a CB (particularly when our goalkeepers is pretty average) and not one of them can consitently build an attack from the back.
Our defence is fairly strong and as are our CBs, we can't go disrupting the only position we have proper depth in. Phil Jones, Bailly and Rojo all in the last 2 seasons have shown enough for me to consider them as very strong and capable options. Our money would be best spent elsewhere, for example in midfield and full back as I believe full back is far and away the weakest position in the squad.
More likely to lose Jones than Smalling given the fitness records of our defenders. Zlatan, Carrick, Fellaini, Shaw, Darmian, Blind and Martial are the likely departures. If we are after a centreback then add Jones/Smalling to the mix. I can't see us going after all of: LB, CB, CM, CM and RW this summer though with the prices they'd likely cost unless Mourinho is going after five players who'd cost around £40M each like City do instead of going for a marquee signing.
That said, from selling Shaw, Darmian, Blind and Martial we should be able to bring in the best part of £100M.
We've got too many square pegs in round holes. Our full backs are wingers, our wingers are strikers, our DM cover is a no 10 and Pogba is playing too deep.
If you ask me we need 5 players. RB (Valencia cover/replacement), LB, DM (Matic cover), Regista and a RW. In my opinion we should sell/get rid off Darmian, Blind, Mata, Carrick, Ibra and Fellaini
If you ask me we need 5 players. RB (Valencia cover/replacement), LB, DM (Matic cover), Regista and a RW. In my opinion we should sell/get rid off Darmian, Blind, Mata, Carrick, Ibra and Fellaini
Jose has been open to selling players to teams in the league before and you were after Martial last summer. I think you signing Lucas has meant there's no room though.
I don't think 10 will go, I just responded to the question of if it had happened before.
I think/hope we'll let go/sell:
Fellaini
Ibrahimovic
Carrick
Shaw
Blind
Darmian
Any others would have to be because we have upgrades on the way, say if another CB comes then I could see one of Smalling/Lindelöf/Jones being sold.
I expect a new left-back to come for sure.
I hope we sign a midfielder or 2.
We still haven't seen Lindelof at his best yet imo. Once Bailly, Rojo, and Lindelof are all available at the same time, in addition to one of Jones or Smalling that will be plenty of combinations to choose from. We've addressed CB in 3 of the past 4 summers and will likely look elsewhere (FBs etc) this summer.
The fact we have extended Young's contract, I hope it is as a backup. We need younger there. Also a new RB. I am sorry but we have to attack from both sides, otherwise they will just close one side down as they nothing is coming down the right.I don't think 10 will go, I just responded to the question of if it had happened before.
I think/hope we'll let go/sell:
Fellaini
Ibrahimovic
Carrick
Shaw
Blind
Darmian
Any others would have to be because we have upgrades on the way, say if another CB comes then I could see one of Smalling/Lindelöf/Jones being sold.
I expect a new left-back to come for sure.
I hope we sign a midfielder or 2.
Hardly squad players.
Ah were upset anyway.
Clear them the feck out. There's too many passengers .
I'd not even be including the likes of Carrick and Ibra on any list for clear out. They pretty much haven't kicked a ball for us this year so are as good as gone already.
Blind Darmian Shaw for sure are looking like gonners.
Other than Pogba Sanchez Matic DDG Bailly and Lukakau everyone else is a possibility for the road.
and if you ignore the fact the guy has been here coming up 2 two seasons and seems to be struggling more not less. and a guy who is 29 whose game is based around his energy, on the biggest contract in premier league history whose obviously bought with the short term in mind whose come in to the team and played worse then the people he has displaced.
If you want to bury your head in the sand and say his record is great then go for it, but its patchy. its not terrible, or amazing, its patchy.
Completely agree. We need a proper right wing/right midfielder, someone who plays there naturally and can put in a decent cross too. I would say this is the most important area to strengthen in the summer.
Exactly. Pep has just gone out and bought another team of so-called backups who could finish in the Top 4 in their own right.
I dunno, Martial could get rotated with Son and be back up for Kane, or even rotated with Lucas. It's a long shot I know.
Mourinho might not mind doing it but I think Woodward might be a bit more hesitant, think we'd rather sell him abroad where he hopefully couldn't come back to bite us if he did end up achieving his potential.
I don't expect it to be all that drastic.
Defintely out - Carrick Zlatan
Likely to be out - Shaw, Darmain, Blind, Fellaini
Hope to be out - One of Jones/Smalling
Promoted in - TFM, Taunzebe, Periera
Bought in - LB, CB, CM, RW
That's 7 and 7 either way.
Carrick replaced by New CM
Shaw replaced by New LB
Smalling/Jones replaced by New CB
Fellaini replaced by Periera (if he stays)
Darmain replaced by TFM
Blind replaced by Taunzebe
Zlatan replaced by new RW, i expect Rashford or Martial to get more games covering/partnering Lukaku upfront.
Defintely out - Carrick Zlatan
Likely to be out - Shaw, Darmain, Blind, Fellaini
Hope to be out - One of Jones/Smalling
Promoted in - TFM, Taunzebe, Periera
Bought in - LB, CB, CM, RW
That's 7 and 7 either way.
Carrick replaced by New CM
Shaw replaced by New LB
Smalling/Jones replaced by New CB
Fellaini replaced by Periera (if he stays)
Darmain replaced by TFM
Blind replaced by Taunzebe
Zlatan replaced by new RW, i expect Rashford or Martial to get more games covering/partnering Lukaku upfront.
Perisic ship has sailed. He can feck off.
Potential outs: Ibra, Carrick, Blind, Shaw, Darmian, Fellaini.
Potential outs: Ibra, Carrick, Blind, Shaw, Darmian, Fellaini.
Perisic is obviously just thrown out there but sub him for a right winger (Bale?) and I'd be happy.
Martial is just there due to his contract situation imo, if he was leaving he'd be gone by now.
Martial is just there due to his contract situation imo, if he was leaving he'd be gone by now.
While we all know there are some players that just need to leave, my concern with "10 players" out means that we'll bring in a bunch of guys who never played with each other. So are we going to have another season of re-building? Should we be ready for a number of excuses of "this is a new team, give it time?"
Very underwhelming radar list.
Zlatan has barely played this year. New RW would be looking to start (same with Sanchez on the left), decreasing the game time of both Rashford and Martial so we're likely to see Martial leave so Rashford's game time isn't affected as much.
Good point.
Isn't Lucas right sided? Martial doesn't play well there. Would be a good option as Kane's backup though.
I wouldn't be surprised about Shaw, Darmian and Blind. Shaw should have gone long ago. Darmian is average. And Blind hasn't been given a chance under Mourinho.
I don't like idea of replacing Shaw with Rose. I see no benefit in swapping one medical bill for another.
"We are Manchester United, we have to improve every year and I know that a lot of players, a lot of good players, will come in next season. That's for sure."
Supposedly Lukaku's words. I don't know what he means by a lot of good players but looks like Jose's open to bring a pack of players who are willing to listen to his instructions with understanding.
Supposedly Lukaku's words. I don't know what he means by a lot of good players but looks like Jose's open to bring a pack of players who are willing to listen to his instructions with understanding.
Wait, are we talking about the Sanchez who’s like almost literally been here 8-10 weeks? Even Rio was whining about him, with his ‘players don’t lose their quality overnight’. It’s ridiculous imo, bringing up that kind of criticism while in reality it was a very good solution to the Mkhi situation and there’s no doubt he will be class once it starts clicking with his team mates.
It’s also completely disregarding the fact that he might’ve signed for City otherwise in the summer, that wouldn’t have been good for us at all.
It’s also completely disregarding the fact that he might’ve signed for City otherwise in the summer, that wouldn’t have been good for us at all.
The first player we need to clear out is our style of play.
City bought the likes of Ederson, Danilo, Walker, Mendy, and Bernardo Silva last summer and then LaPorte in Jan. No problems whatsoever.
Either way we have 3 left wingers and a central midfielder with very little pace playing as our right winger. Somethings got to change. Personally i think the obvious answer was to stick Sanchez on the right.
Considering our squad side is just about right, there is no way we'd be selling 10 players. 6 are nailed on and add one of Jones/Smalling and I think that would be it. TFM and Tuanzebe return from loan, maybe Pereira has a role and we sign 4 maximum 5 players.
Replacing 10 players means an outlay of around 350m (7 40m players and 1 marquee) and there is no way the board allows that
Replacing 10 players means an outlay of around 350m (7 40m players and 1 marquee) and there is no way the board allows that
Surely we're not allowing him to sell Martial? Is the board insane? I wouldn't even let him touch Shaw. Just get rid of Jose. Awful, awful, management.
Imagine him bringing in a lot of old underwhelming players for huge money and huge salaries. We'll need upgrades when the next manager comes in.
I cannot believe some are on board with this. It's just insane to trust this man.
Imagine him bringing in a lot of old underwhelming players for huge money and huge salaries. We'll need upgrades when the next manager comes in.
I cannot believe some are on board with this. It's just insane to trust this man.
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But we only have Lukaku as a striker, Rashford could be brought forward while Martial has been used on the right so he would get gametime on both flanks.
My prediction is Martial will keep Sanchez out as the season goes on and Alexis will end up in PSG as Neymars replacement.
@Jazz calm down! This isn't a Jose statement. Eveybody jumped on him with the Spurs / Perisic swap rumours. Lets wait and see if this is true before we start slating management.
But we only have Lukaku as a striker, Rashford could be brought forward while Martial has been used on the right so he would get gametime on both flanks.
My prediction is Martial will keep Sanchez out as the season goes on and Alexis will end up in PSG as Neymars replacement.
@Jazz calm down! This isn't a Jose statement. Eveybody jumped on him with the Spurs / Perisic swap rumours. Lets wait and see if this is true before we start slating management.
Would appears Shaw's agent or somebody similarly close has been speaking up:
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...nsider-manchester-united-future-in-the-summer
Shifting all blame on Mourinho for being a big bad boss and not being nice to the 22 year-old millionaire, Luke Shaw.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...nsider-manchester-united-future-in-the-summer
Shifting all blame on Mourinho for being a big bad boss and not being nice to the 22 year-old millionaire, Luke Shaw.
Those incoming players don't fill me with any confidence. Willian I would take but no-one else. Perisic isn't good enough. Varane isn't leaving Real Madrid. Rose is injury prone. Not sure about Fred. I'm not really looking foward to this transfer window. Not really many names to shout about.
Yeah, it would be a truly bizarre signing another 29 year whose favourite position is the left wing.
I can't see that happening.