Pep Guardiola: "Raiola offered me Mkhitaryan and Pogba two months ago.

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Yes, he wanted to get back at Raiola, so he conveniently namechecked Pogba and Mkhitaryan being offered to him. He could have called out Raiola without naming players.
If you read the full quote, it was more a case of "If I'm such a dog and coward why did Raiola approach me about Mkhi and Pogba", maybe those are genuinely two players Raiola quizzed City about, its not unheard of for agents to approach clubs, sniff about even with no interest in moving. Maybe he was hoping City would bite and he could get a better deal at United, either way Raiola obviously approached City about the two.
 

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It would be a cold day in hell before we sold any player to City. I'd like to think Raiola being the shrewd businessman he is knows this too, any discussion were probably for a better deal for Pogbas renewal.
Still a scummy thing to do. However i'd expect no less from football agents nowadays. Their big pay days are contract renewals or transfers.
 

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WTF is Guardiola going on talking about calling Raiola a 'dog'?

He was offered 2 players. He refused them.

So move on.

Seems to me that Guardiola's real intent could be to cause disharmony at United. For him to call Pogba an "incredible player" is just laughable though.
The way I read it, he is actually calling Pogba a dog. Right before the derby.
 

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This might actually backfire, because Pogba has been in poor form and this will probably not help his mentality.

Guardiola is not good at this mind games stuff.

Also, the english game has been missing this type of stuff. I like the war of words that happens between Mourinho and Guardiola.
 

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If you read the full quote, it was more a case of "If I'm such a dog and coward why did Raiola approach me about Mkhi and Pogba", maybe those are genuinely two players Raiola quizzed City about, its not unheard of for agents to approach clubs, sniff about even with no interest in moving. Maybe he was hoping City would bite and he could get a better deal at United, either way Raiola obviously approached City about the two.
This has nothing to do with the issue at hand. He may well have been offered those players but if he has a problem with Raiola and wants to respond to him he can do it without namechecking players. Give me a break.
 

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Hard to find it so true if you asked me, Pogba is playing so well in January, there's no chance why would we sell him to City. For Pep to say such thing like this, is very disrespectful to opposition club like United.

I actually think it had something to do with summer 2016 when Mhki and Pogba are looking for a move.
 

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From what Pep said it sounded like they were both offered around the same time which would have been middle of January/early January which is weird as prior to the Spurs game both he and Martial were our best players that month.
I'm just going off his quote, "exactly two months ago". So it depends how exactly we want to be :). I checked and sure enough its around the Spurs/Newcastle games where he was dire. Pogba wouldn't have gone anywhere in the Jan window so it might have been for the summer
 

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So Raiola tried to engineer an exit for Pogba and Mkhi at the same time and offers them to Pep. This is even before Pogba was dropped! Pep refused and that's why Raiola called him a dog just a few days ago. Have I missed something?
No Raiola dislikes Pep because Zlatan dislikes Pep and basically has Zlatan's opinion on him.
He probably quizzed City about Pogba and Mkhi (to move Mkhi on and engineer a better deal for Pogba).
City said no because they more than likely knew their was no hope of Pogba and Mkhi was obviously not required.
Raiola makes comments about Pep practically quoting Zlatan on him.
Pep responds with "if i'm so bad why offer me Mkhi and Pogba"
 

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Can we not take a stance on Raiola and make Rom and Pogba choose between the club or their cnut agent?
 

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I doubt there was ever any plan to try and move Pogba or Mhikitaryan to City, but being able to say City are interested gets Mhikitaryan more money when hee negotiates with Arsenal, and Pogba more money whether he stays at United or moves.

Not sure why it's a particularly surprising thing for an agent to do...particularly one with little shame. I also highly doubt he "offered" them to Pep if the two of them hate each other so much. To City maybe, but he wouldn't exactly have phoned Pep direct and said "hey mate, I've got these two players who can help you"

Guardiola really needs to just stick to talking about actual on the pitch football, because whenever he strays away from it he just comes across as a complete idiot.
 

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Raiola just called him a dog and he's just getting asked.
I'm sure Guardiola wanted to get back at Raiola and he is well within his rights to do so. He just conveniently included Pogba before the derby especially after his team pitifully lost to Liverpool. I'm not a cynic by nature but I find it extremely unlikely that Guardiola would react to this bullshit this way if he had won the midweek game. There was just no need for throwing players under the bus, but hey ho, it's Guardiola, he was just protecting his sister's honor.
 

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So it's either :

1- Pep is lying.

2- Raiola moved on his own without even taking permission from Paul.

Which is more believable ?
 

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Good for Pep being a cnut before the derby and giving journos all they need to forget about that shambolic shitshow that happened midweek. Carry on.
 

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WTF is Guardiola going on talking about calling Raiola a 'dog'?

He was offered 2 players. He refused them.

So move on.

Seems to me that Guardiola's real intent could be to cause disharmony at United. For him to call Pogba an "incredible player" is just laughable though.
Raiola is the one that called him a dog.
Pep is asking why Raiola would want to sell two of his clients to a dog.
 

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If you read the full quote, it was more a case of "If I'm such a dog and coward why did Raiola approach me about Mkhi and Pogba", maybe those are genuinely two players Raiola quizzed City about, its not unheard of for agents to approach clubs, sniff about even with no interest in moving. Maybe he was hoping City would bite and he could get a better deal at United, either way Raiola obviously approached City about the two.
Oh please. Pep isn't a moron.

He brought up bought names knowing it would create a shit storm and deflect attention.

Why didn't he bring up Lukaku's name? because Lukaku isn't being dropped. Nice way of trying to unsettle Pogba before the game.
 

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If you read the full quote, it was more a case of "If I'm such a dog and coward why did Raiola approach me about Mkhi and Pogba", maybe those are genuinely two players Raiola quizzed City about, its not unheard of for agents to approach clubs, sniff about even with no interest in moving. Maybe he was hoping City would bite and he could get a better deal at United, either way Raiola obviously approached City about the two.
Nobody's denying that Raiola is a money-grabbing chancer who only cares about the bottom line, but for 'gentleman' Pep to mention this the day before the derby is incredibly backhanded.

If it had been Mourinho, who let's be honest has both said and done some pretty petty things, he would get slaughtered, and rightly so.

If Pogba doesn't start the game tomorrow we'll all know exactly why.

Seriously lost any respect for Pep that I had left after he became City manager.
 

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The very fact they are embargoed comments and have leaked tells you everything you need to know about why Pep said it.

It won't have been a UK journalist who informed Di Marzio of these comments because it's just not in their interest to do so. The embargo exists for their benefit.

I'd bet my left testical that this has come directly from City who found out these quotes were embargoed until tonight and needed them to get out early in the hope it would create a problem within the squad and effect Mourinho's selection.

Pep knows full well that Pogba's distribution will be key to our transitions tomorrow as we're going to be on the back foot.
Exactly. Mind games in a cowardly way.
 

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Riola even offered Pogba to Barcelona and Real Madrid, even Marca reported it. Riola intent was clear : Get Pressure on Mourinho and United

There was no way we would sell Pogba, and Riola knew this
 

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So it's either :

1- Pep is lying.

2- Raiola moved on his own without even taking permission from Paul.

Which is more believable ?
or

3- It happened with the consent of the player (maybe to try and get better terms with us given we signed Sanchez around that time) and Pogba is doing the natural thing of denying it because it can't be proven.
 

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3- It happened with the consent of the player (maybe to try and get better terms with us given we signed Sanchez around that time) and Pogba is doing the natural thing of denying it because it can't be proven.
Probably.
 

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Just give Pogba a better contract, thats what he wanted since Sanchez has arrived, like a kid sulking.
 

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3- It happened with the consent of the player (maybe to try and get better terms with us given we signed Sanchez around that time) and Pogba is doing the natural thing of denying it because it can't be proven.
I think this is what has happened.
 

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So it's either :

1- Pep is lying.

2- Raiola moved on his own without even taking permission from Paul.

Which is more believable ?
Option 3 Pogba wanted the move. Can't see it ever happening though, no matter how much was offered.

Surely Raiola would know if he went to Untied and said City want to buy him, to give him some leverage in contract negotiations, United wouldn't be worried at all as they know Pogba wouldn't join them and they'd never sell. Very strange situation.
 

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No Raiola dislikes Pep because Zlatan dislikes Pep and basically has Zlatan's opinion on him.
He probably quizzed City about Pogba and Mkhi (to move Mkhi on and engineer a better deal for Pogba).
City said no because they more than likely knew their was no hope of Pogba and Mkhi was obviously not required.
Raiola makes comments about Pep practically quoting Zlatan on him.
Pep responds with "if i'm so bad why offer me Mkhi and Pogba"
Or maybe Pep just made up this shit to have a go at Raiola.
 

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The very fact they are embargoed comments and have leaked tells you everything you need to know about why Pep said it.

It won't have been a UK journalist who informed Di Marzio of these comments because it's just not in their interest to do so. The embargo exists for their benefit.

I'd bet my left testical that this has come directly from City who found out these quotes were embargoed until tonight and needed them to get out early in the hope it would create a problem within the squad and effect Mourinho's selection.

Pep knows full well that Pogba's distribution will be key to our transitions tomorrow as we're going to be on the back foot.
They've won the title, safe to say its Pep reacting to cnutish remarks from Raiola instead of massive mind games for a game that counts for less than the game they play after that.