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Salah has been at least 3rd best player in the world behind Messi & Ronaldo thorughout 2017-18 season.

One could argue that Salah might even be on the same level as them during 2017-18 seaosn.

Noone said about the same for when Suárez made his incredible 2013-14 season.
Nah, he was regarded as third best player in the world that season, if I am not mistaken.
 

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One of Pool fans gave him an Egyptian flag. Seeing such pictures make me so proud. :drool:
 

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Don't see the problem here. It's the first time we see a player of our own had such levels and standards in Europe. More importantly, Salah has been pretty much raised in Egyptian League and moved from it to Europe unlike many other Arab players from Algeria or Morocco who were born in Europe itself and had an easy start to their European career.

There're only 6 years separating both pictures, think about it a little bit :

 

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Suarez was scoring goals from the halfway line, taking balls out of the air on his shoulder and making a mockery of defences. Even the goals he didn't score - the volley vs Arsenal that hit the post were memorable.

Salah has scored some worldies, ran rings around defences and has also done it in the CL at the most important times.

Just like Suarez he has had a season that has elevated him to world class status and is now in contention for the Ballon D'or.
 
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It's incredible that with a player like that (or in that form) Liverpool only managed to secure their CL place on the last day. When Suarez was in that kind of form (and Salah's is probably even better), they were one slip away from the title.
You forgeting some key things here, first we didn't had any European competition that year, we were out of every domestic cup at first opportunity. We had like one week time between every match(more than enough to rest and prepare for next match) that's how we ended up in second place with 84 points, 101 goals scored, 50 conceded and losing the title by 2 points. This season we have finished the season at fourth with 75 points(9 less than 2013-14), 84 goals scored and 38 conceded, full 25 points behind the champions. While playing Champions league all the way to the final. So I can make the argument that Salah wasnt playing at his 100% because we was playing 90 minutes twice a week instead of Suarez's once a week and managed the same goal tally while taking us to the Champions league final.

For me Salah has more impact on our season than Suarez, if Suarez had been playing this season at the same level he was in 2013-14. He still would have lose the title by 16 points(or maybe more because he would have to play in champions league) and you would have said " I cannot believe even with player like Suarez liverpool lost the title by 16(or more) points."
 

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That Suarez year was better than this years Salah.

Suarez was supported by a young Sterling, and Sturridge who isn’t the player Firmino is. Mane is better than Sterling from back then too.

He deserves all the accolades he gets, but I don’t think he’ll repeat this form next season. Everything he’s tried this year has come off perfectly. I’m not saying he’ll be shite next year, but I don’t expect a repeat of this year.
 

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This is incredible, so to put that in context he only didn't score against two teams in his debut Liverpool season.

His achievements are incredible and he seems quite likeable which is rare for a Liverpool player.
 

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This is incredible, so to put that in context he only didn't score against two teams in his debut Liverpool season.

His achievements are incredible and he seems quite likeable which is rare for a Liverpool player.
He didn't score against us nor an own goal :eek:

Friggin wild. What an achievement
 

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He didn't score against us nor an own goal :eek:

Friggin wild. What an achievement
Didn't score against us which makes him extra likeable.

Strangely the only other team he didn't score against was Swansea. He did get two assists in one game against them though.

So that leaves United as the only team he didn't score or assist in the Premier league.

Salah loves United, you heard it here first.....!
 

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That Suarez year was better than this years Salah.

Suarez was supported by a young Sterling, and Sturridge who isn’t the player Firmino is. Mane is better than Sterling from back then too.

He deserves all the accolades he gets, but I don’t think he’ll repeat this form next season. Everything he’s tried this year has come off perfectly. I’m not saying he’ll be shite next year, but I don’t expect a repeat of this year.
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/108226/Fixtures/Mohamed-Salah
Not many games all season he didn't get a goal or assist or both. Truly phenomenal!
 

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Two great individual seasons Suarez and salah.

Great achievement from salah who seems like a thoroughly down to earth likable guy
 

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Henry was a striker though and also had the skill/possibilty of taking FKs. Plus Henry had several seasons to develop into that player. This is Salah's first proper PL season. That, the number of goals and the variety if the teams he has scored against makes it better
Henry was a better player but Salah's season from an individual POV is better IMHO
Nah a major difference you’re ignoring is how the other top players elevated their teams. Suarez almost single handledly won Liverpool the title. Salah didn’t even come close.
 

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Have people forgotten that Suarez missed the first 5 league games due to his ban?

Also, Suarez took the complete piss out of teams by himself, Salah is very efficient but he doesn't have that flair or style that Suarez had.

Suarez reminded me so much of Fat Ronaldo, he is in my opinion the only player to be better than Ronaldo and Messi in a season in the last decade.
 

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Nah a major difference you’re ignoring is how the other top players elevated their teams. Suarez almost single handledly won Liverpool the title. Salah didn’t even come close.
You either win it or you don't and besides let's not even compare the Champions of the respective seasons in terms of points please
 

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You either win it or you don't and besides let's not even compare the Champions of the respective seasons in terms of points please
Suarez was much closer. Remove City this year and Liverpool would’ve still finished well behind us.

Besides for Suarez, Ronaldo and Henry were streets ahead in terms of having better premier league seasons. Ronaldo legitimately elevated us to the best team in the world, and that was largely off his premier league performances. Also, the defences Henry and Ronaldo competed against were on a different planet compared to what Salah has faced.

Ronaldo’s best PL season was at a time when English teams were dominating Europe. Salah is playing in a much weaker premier league.
 

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Nah a major difference you’re ignoring is how the other top players elevated their teams. Suarez almost single handledly won Liverpool the title. Salah didn’t even come close.
He's elevated his side to a CL final.
 

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He's elevated his side to a CL final.
I’m not denying his CL performance and impact (although Liverpool have had a much easier run to the final than Madrid). However, the post I was replying to was referring to the premier league and having the best ever PL season. It’s much more difficult to inspire your team in a tough league compared to the Champions league, imo of course.

I’m not trying to discredit what Salah has done this season. It’s remarkable and is near the top of all time PL seasons. However, it isn’t on par with what a handful of other exceptional players have done in this league. I mean even in the current season, Salah is getting all the plaudits, but KdB and David Silva have led city to various records whilst Salah’s team finished fourth. I really think to be considered as having the best PL season ever you have to win the actual competition - or at least come insanely close.
 

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I’m not denying his CL performance and impact (although Liverpool have had a much easier run to the final than Madrid). However, the post I was replying to was referring to the premier league and having the best ever PL season. It’s much more difficult to inspire your team in a tough league compared to the Champions league, imo of course.

I’m not trying to discredit what Salah has done this season. It’s remarkable and is near the top of all time PL seasons. However, it isn’t on par with what a handful of other exceptional players have done in this league. I mean even in the current season, Salah is getting all the plaudits, but KdB and David Silva have led city to various records whilst Salah’s team finished fourth. I really think to be considered as having the best PL season ever you have to win the actual competition - or at least come insanely close.
It's a team game - one player can't win the thing by themselves. Silva and KDB have been fantastic but on an individual level, Salah's contribution has been greater. On an individual level, this season sits up there alongside the best for me.
 

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Suarez was much closer. Remove City this year and Liverpool would’ve still finished well behind us.

Besides for Suarez, Ronaldo and Henry were streets ahead in terms of having better premier league seasons. Ronaldo legitimately elevated us to the best team in the world, and that was largely off his premier league performances. Also, the defences Henry and Ronaldo competed against were on a different planet compared to what Salah has faced.

Ronaldo’s best PL season was at a time when English teams were dominating Europe. Salah is playing in a much weaker premier league.
Remember, Ronaldo was playing alongside peak Rio, Van der SAR, Vidic , Rooney, Scholes, Gary Neville, Evra. Even if you guys didn't had the Ronaldo in the team during that period, your team was good enough to challenge and win titles. No doubt he lifted the team to world class category. An argument can be had that Ronaldo managed to score those many goals because he was supported by players like Giggs, Scholes, Rooney, Tevez and had the defence made of Neville, Evra, Vidic, Rio and Van der SAR.

So Ronaldo was a star of a proper "team".

Whereas Salah has hendo, can, ( his past) Milner, 19 year old midfielder turned right back, a left back nobody knew about year back, lovren and Mignolet in the defense. I wonder which player(s) do you think can replace any player from starting eleven of man utd when Ronaldo was there?

Also premier league isn't weak, it has got more competitive than during SAF days . Among top ten richest football clubs in the world, 5 are from premier league and ten are from England if you compile a list of top 20 richest clubs in the world.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.bus...20-richest-football-clubs-in-the-world-2018-1

During SAF days we use to have top 4 teams and only one or two would challenge you guys and only one would go all the way. Whereas from last years we are watching top 6 challenging for 4 champions league spots, every traditional top 4 team have literally missed champions league one or more times since 2010. Man utd have spend way more since SAF's departure than what he spend during his whole career, if league is weak than why have man utd not won the league even after spending so much money?
 

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That Suarez year was better than this years Salah.

Suarez was supported by a young Sterling, and Sturridge who isn’t the player Firmino is. Mane is better than Sterling from back then too.
The same young Sterling who won Golden Boy award as the most talented U21-player in Europé during 2014?

Or when Daniel Sturrdige (who miraculously managed to stay fit that season) scored over 20 EPL-goals. A feat Firmino has yet to acheive in his career.
 

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Suarez is more like a fighter, a typically street footballer with physics

Salah is more technically gifted and way better in dribbling and game knowledge.
 

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Next season his goals will reduce but his creativity will increase
I imagine something similar. He'll get less headlines, but it might be for the betterment of the team. We really need to spread out our goals. Once you move past our front 3, the goals in the team drops like a cliff.
 

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Have people forgotten that Suarez missed the first 5 league games due to his ban?

Also, Suarez took the complete piss out of teams by himself, Salah is very efficient but he doesn't have that flair or style that Suarez had.

Suarez reminded me so much of Fat Ronaldo, he is in my opinion the only player to be better than Ronaldo and Messi in a season in the last decade.
Suarez was brilliant but he didn't do enough against big teams. He was absolutely rampant against mid and lower table teams and that made him look better than he was. Salah has performed against almost everyone.
 

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Man utd have spend way more since SAF's departure than what he spend during his whole career, if league is weak than why have man utd not won the league even after spending so much money?
Because they spent that money to sign darmian, blind, mhkitaryan, schneiderlin, fellaini, broken and finished schweinsteiger, do i have to keep going? Having more money to spend is no guarantee of a better team. Atletico Madrid and Juventus have had better teams than anyone in England for years while working on a fraction of the budget
 

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Remarkable season where he started on fire and everything came off for him. Grew in confidence to the point he just knew he’d score almost every game. Incredible

Let’s see how he handles next season when defenders will be more aware off him tactically. Let’s see how he copes mentally when he hits a dry spell
 
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I imagine something similar. He'll get less headlines, but it might be for the betterment of the team. We really need to spread out our goals. Once you move past our front 3, the goals in the team drops like a cliff.
But its how Klopp has set up the team to be fair. With a center midfield of box to box battlers. IMO he should build a back up three upfront that is just almost as potent as the starting three in terms of scoring.
 

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But its how Klopp has set up the team to be fair. With a center midfield of box to box battlers. IMO he should build a back up three upfront that is just almost as potent as the starting three in terms of scoring.
I think we are aiming for the front four positions to be taken up by something like Salah/Firmino/Mane, and someone like Fekir(?) in the advanced midfield. And then have Chamberlain and Lallana as first rotators in for the front four. With Ings and youngsters taking up spots 7 and 8 for those four positions. Maybe Origi will make a return, though I'd be surprised. He's better than the likes of Ings and Solanke though. But we need to find a balance between making sure we have enough quality up front to keep going and also having slots open so that youngsters like Woodburn, Brewster and Wilson don't get squeezed out. If we're serious about youth, these guys need the space.

Hopefully someone like Keita will add more goals than we've seen from Wijnaldum and Hendo. Can was the only midfielder who really chipped in with goals at a ok rate from midfield.

Might be asking a lot for a kid, but someone like TAA should also be looking to add more goals. He's got 3 so far which isn't bad for a fullback, but he could be doing more with his right foot.