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Pogba: "There are things I cannot say, otherwise I will get fined"
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This.
The exact reason why big portion of club media relations is damage control and getting ahead of things (like the Salah/Phone piece)
How can anyone read that article and conclude that Pogba's a massive knob? Our so called fans are so unbelievably fickle.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of this was Mourinho manufactured to try and instil that siege mentality, he has a lot of contacts through the media so would be easy enough to start a them vs us type thing.
Either way I do think he has been trying to get that mentality.
Things have really changed. Maybe folks like me just need to come to terms with reality.
The Manchester United I know, it's manager power over star player power. The manager is the boss and that's final. Players bottle their issues or deal with them behind the cameras. They don't come out to say what Pogba said.
The Manchester united I know, wearing the captain's armband of United is almost sacred. It's like the greatest honour you can bestow a player in world football. You don't wear it and then come out to say stuff like what Pogba said. The United I know, the board is where managerial issues are resolved. Captains don't come out after the first game of the season at home when the team badly needs a rallying cry, to be giving cryptic, unsettling messages to the press.
The Manchester United I know, it's manager power over star player power. The manager is the boss and that's final. Players bottle their issues or deal with them behind the cameras. They don't come out to say what Pogba said.
The Manchester united I know, wearing the captain's armband of United is almost sacred. It's like the greatest honour you can bestow a player in world football. You don't wear it and then come out to say stuff like what Pogba said. The United I know, the board is where managerial issues are resolved. Captains don't come out after the first game of the season at home when the team badly needs a rallying cry, to be giving cryptic, unsettling messages to the press.
If a lot of, what? These current "events", or something else?
That would be something tho. Imagine him riling his players on, "come on boys lets show these journalists" with a smirk on his face. Custis in the bushes with a coffee-filled thermos holding his kobayashi mug whilst listening for chitchat.
Ah those days when Custis was Caf`s favorite just because cnut was gunning for LvG.
Wait so are people saying the Pogba quotes about being fined if he talks are made up?
Oh god Trump logic has filtered through to football fans, that really could be altered easily to depict the anti climate change loons or flat earthers
State of this place
It's not really the fault of the fans. It's that no-one trusts what they're being told and why should they? For what it's worth, Pogba's attributed quotes seem to make it more likely than not that he's trying to work an exit, so the flat earthers in this scenario would be the 'move along, nothing to see here' brigade.
Can't believe that Wayne's become an American policeman...
Do you write narrations for Sky Sports Super Sunday trailers?
Yep. As are the accounts of the meeting this week, the claims that Pogba is agitating for a move/improved contract, the numerous reports from England, Spain, France and Italy of Raiola shopping his client around Europe for the last 6 months, Guardiola's quotes at the beginning of the year, and any suggestion that there's a personal problem between Mourinho and the player. One giant media conspiracy designed to stop the joint-third favourites for the Premier League from winning the Premier League.
All is well.
Does anyone have a gif of Comical Ali?
Okay, okay time for United to ban all media conferences and pay the fine so Jose won't be forced to sit in the press conferences, they normally take out of context and twisting what he said, why would we give them any reason to sell us as if we were the enemy? Pogba probably gets tired of the media and want to criticize media but would get fined for it.
We don't know what Pogba was referring to with those quotes. I'm inclined to believe that this situation has been blown out of proportion by the media. The exact same thing happened last year and Pogba basically said don't believe the media. It happened before the Liverpool game and he made a point of showing, on national television, that there is no issue with Jose.
The "flat earthers" are therefore surely those that continue to buy into this despite only proof to the contrary.
As I said earlier, anyone who has or supports Taxidermy of animals, is a cnut!
Now, if you wish to defend him or anyone for that, you too in my eyes, are also a cnut
Not about being fickle, it's about having decency and respect for the world and life
I don't believe so, just this completely unfounded nonsense from the sun/mail.
I'm assuming you're a vegan then, with your fine upstanding moral fortitude? After all, the dairy industry is much, much more egregious than taxidermy. At least the animal's end is in sight in the latter, while for the former you're looking at a lifetime of torture.
So you support the killing of innocent wild animals like Lions and Tigers then?
Right, well you're not worth wasting time with...
Where did I say that? I'm just saying if you are consistent in your, admittedly admirable, indignation at the suffering of animals, then surely you'd be equally vociferous in your disgust at the dairy industry?
Otherwise calling someone a cnut for having a taxidermy on the basis of the animal being harmed (and its not like Pogba himself killed the animal) is a bit hypocritical if you yourself are consuming animal products and by extension, are guilty of the same crime that you have accused Pogba of?
Anything new?
Did they have a bare knuckle fight in the middle of the pitch already?
Did they have a bare knuckle fight in the middle of the pitch already?
I look forward to the next chapter in this saga, who needs Hollyoaks.
For some reason people see killing a lion and cow completely differently, when both should be treated equally, society is messed up beyond belief unfortunately.
Where did I say that? I'm just saying if you are consistent in your, admittedly admirable, indignation at the suffering of animals, then surely you'd be equally vociferous in your disgust at the dairy industry?
Otherwise calling someone a cnut for having a taxidermy on the basis of the animal being harmed (and its not like Pogba himself killed the animal) is a bit hypocritical if you yourself are consuming animal products and by extension, are guilty of the same crime that you have accused Pogba of?
Can you guys not take this to the Killing a lion versus killing a cow thread?
Yup, especially since a cow isn't even a predator like a lion or a tiger. In the case of the latter, it can often be a case of killed or be killed in the wild. A cow, on the other hand, harms no one.
That's not to say that poaching or hunting of tigers or lions is fine btw, but I just find it strange that people aren't consistent in their denunciations and their protesting of animal rights.
A lion maybe at most, kill you. A cow may not do much but hundreds of them feckers fart out the Green House effect that slowly kills generations.
Pog is a Muslim, he spared the lives of many pigs and thus should reserve the right to one stuffed lion.
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The next logical step is to decide who is the lion and who is the cow out of mou/pogba
Basically Pogba was average last season, had a good WC, got his ego up a bit and says some cryptic but vague things. Doesn't like that Mou has no PR filter and tells him he's sh*t when he's sh*t. That's pretty much the story, nothing else has really happened.
In reality probably 80-90% of this media shitshow is down to Raiola's machinations.
Knew we'd end up regretting doing so much business with that slimy odious leech. You can tell exactly what sort of a crook he is when you look at him, the sort of small time mobster who gets killed in the first 10 minutes of a gangster film.
Tried to keep it from my mind, because we were signing Ibrah and Pogba and Mkhitaryan. But I still knew.
Knew we'd end up regretting doing so much business with that slimy odious leech. You can tell exactly what sort of a crook he is when you look at him, the sort of small time mobster who gets killed in the first 10 minutes of a gangster film.
Tried to keep it from my mind, because we were signing Ibrah and Pogba and Mkhitaryan. But I still knew.
Sounds about right.
Yup. Fergie was obviously right about him being a wrong ‘un.
What does Raiola do with Pogba not meeting expectations on the pitch consistently enough or him speaking out of line in post match interviews?
The waving to other clubs I understand is a Raiola thing but that's about it
The Sun story seemed made up to me, sounded ridiculous. Same token neither party has actually done themselves any favours and the "I want to say things but not get fined" Pogba comment really annoying. Mourinho seemed to be backign his players the first game, hoping it was him realising that is the way forward and not the calm before the storm, but Pogba making comments after the first game if true really is poor.
I would like to see Pogba, stop doing interviews, quieten down all the social media and haircuts (hey he didnt have a mad one at the world cup after all), just buckle down and do his talking on the pitch. The world cup to me is irrelevant, it has always been obvious Pogba has all the attributes to be one of if not the best central midfielder in the world, he just needs to prove it consistantly and I think he has central midfielders around him now to help him, irrelevant of silverware for us, I dont think there are any excuses for him not performing this season, just go and do it
I would like to see Pogba, stop doing interviews, quieten down all the social media and haircuts (hey he didnt have a mad one at the world cup after all), just buckle down and do his talking on the pitch. The world cup to me is irrelevant, it has always been obvious Pogba has all the attributes to be one of if not the best central midfielder in the world, he just needs to prove it consistantly and I think he has central midfielders around him now to help him, irrelevant of silverware for us, I dont think there are any excuses for him not performing this season, just go and do it
Is that boot still around that the boss threw at Beckham.
I reckon Pogba’s had someone in his ear telling him he’s the bees knees and it’s all everybody else’s fault when things didn’t go great for him last season. Which is why he came out with ludicrous shit like why he doesn’t need to run hard because Messi doesn’t cover much ground either.
That might just have been his family or friends but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was Raiola. Who stands to make more money the more under-valued and under-appreciated Pogba feels.
Sounds like he's surrounded by complete idiots, his manager was disappointed he didn't "call out" his own manager in his press interviews? What a cretin.No, I was wrong. It's a Lion, not a Tiger
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...france-star-paul-pogba-looking-impress-Russia
The "Pogkitchen"
Sounds like his dad kept him grounded to a point and was quite a stern character, and ironically not too dissimilar to Mourinho.
Pogba's statement that football should always be fun speaks volumes, so childish.
When can this thread die?
Sick of seeing all this. If push comes to shove we should tell Barca to put up 200m upfront and then tell them they can pay that fat cnut who manages him out of their funds. Otherwise, tell Pogba to shut his trap and do his job.
Felt the same about Rooney when he started kicking up a fuss under SAF. I wish we’d have sold him to Chelsea if Jose was really in for him.
Felt the same about Rooney when he started kicking up a fuss under SAF. I wish we’d have sold him to Chelsea if Jose was really in for him.
When a player allows their agent to represent them like Raiola often does they are either weak, a twat, or both. Same could be said about Rooney's agent and the cretins that represent Toure and Lewandowski. When you sign a player with an agent like this, you also sign the chaos that ensues next time they want a raise/transfer/have their feeling hurt.