If there was ever proof of how crap a player is, it's that they scored a penalty for the losing side. Yawn.
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- Appearances
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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He's become a bit predictable and the City defence were onto him. He needs to switch things up a bit as the constant cutting onto his right foot to place a shot into the far corner is becoming easy to defend against.
This place never changes.
Isn't that why we're paying our manager like 18 million per year to improve them and get the best out of them?
It's hard to develop an attacking talent when you're actually more focused to get that player to track back than to actually attack imo.
Man you cannot be serious about possession, we couldn't have had more than 20% in the opening 10 minutes, they absolutely killed us in that regard. Think I ever saw a tweet in the matchday thread with exact number.
So you think that Martial doesn't and didn't have people saying he was shite like these guys?
I don't know if you even read what I posted. After 10-12 minutes, City had 90% of the ball. Therefore, given that our overall possession was 35%, I assuming we had close to 40% from minutes 12-93. That's more than enough to actually do something. Yes, our style is fecking awful, but we don't help ourselves with the amount of times we give the ball away.
We could barely keep the ball for a few seconds. How are we supposed to get players like martial on the ball and cause some problems? He spends more time tracking back to help the FB instead of attacking defenders. When we had a bit more of the ball in other games he was a threat clearly
Have I said he was shite? Am I asking for people to call him shite? Maybe I'm one of a few posters who feel like he's actually capable of so much more even when he's "marked by two defenders".
"it feels like he's afforded every excuse in the book in comparison to other players."
Those were your words. My point was excuses are made for all the players you mentioned (Lingard, Matic and Lukaku)
In any case the "marked by two defenders" part isn't the issue, the issue really was when we are really poor as a team and have no other attacking options, its very easy for the defending team to just double down on Martial. He will need to elevate his game further to be able to deal with that, but we as a team need to just be better and offer more attacking balance.
It also didn't help that we didn't have many players who could string two passes together and get the ball to anyone in dangerous situations.
First part's on me then, I haven't paid close attention.
Our overall possession was 32% which is shocking considering we were supposed to be chasing the result.
But dude our shambolic play style is one of the reasons we give ball away so much, there's no movement, no attacking patterns, nothing resembling a well drilled plan. It's all hoof it upfront and pray it hits the target man.
I'm willing to bet that out of 68% possession City had, they had more of that possession on our half than we had in total .
Running at pace vs standing start. Martial was never afforded the opportunity of running at pace at the City defenders as they press so high up the pitch and every time Martial received the ball there were at least 2 city players up his arse.
My apologies, I have a habit of misunderstanding posts around here, it seems.
Anthony Martial has currently the best min/goal ratio in Premier League this season (minimum 5 goals)
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Fair enough. I don't disagree with any of this. I still feel our players can do a lot more than was displayed yesterday. But Jose isn't doing us any favours with the shit style. We should have pressed a lot more yesterday (but thats for a different thread).
Tough times mate, tough times.
I agree that they could do better, but for our current tactics and play style, considering all the negativity surrounding us, nothing short of perfect performance would do the trick imo.
Thought he did really well with his short passing interplay with midfield, even saw him making loads of those runs that people accuse him of being incapable of. The problem being that when this happened, the midfield totally ignored his run into space and either passed sideways/backwards or belted it out to the right for Rashford to miscontrol.
He has been pulled out of the France squad. That's a shame.
Injury?
Shame as national team managers dont really like seeing that, especially those in Martials situation where he doesnr get many call ups. If he pulls out over a small niggle they'll be less inclined to give him future call ups.
Apparently a groin problem.
I'm not sure if he pulled out, there is a medical during the first morning of every national team meeting and it's the FFF doctor that ruled both Pogba and Martial out.
Oh if it's that then it would look much better. If United pulled him out before going then it would probably not sit well with Deschamps.
Hopefully nothing serious anyway.
Feel sorry for him. Would love for him to get a change to play his way into the squad, probably the most talented squad in the world
As long as he's back for CP.
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Good for us. They need some rest after carrying our whole team around.
I cant remember the last time martial started so many games so a break might do him no harm.
Not saying he is crap. I just cringed at the twitter post celebrating his 5th consecutive goal after a 3-1 loss to City.
What's wrong with that exactly? It is a fact that he's scored in 5 consecutive games, a feat that isn't easy to pull off hence why it got a mention.
The boy's not had the best time of it until recently, lost his place in the team, lost his place in the World Cup winning squad... but now he's playing well, he's back in the French squad, and he's got about as many goals from the wing as all out other forwards combined this season... while tracking fullbacks. Can't we be happy about his development? Long may his streak continue!
Hopefully the inury is minor, he's in such good form and it would suck for him to lose his momentum.
No worries mate, we all good..My apologies, I have a habit of misunderstanding posts around here, it seems.
I think you got the wrong jist of my post. It's not a slight on Martial.
See below:
Well what do we have to feel positive about otherwise? Martial carrying on a terrific scoring run is the only real one. So I'm certainly pleased with that.
This is one thing i have noticed about him.
Hes extremely predictable and one dimensional.
He also slows us down,doesnt offer a constant threat and fades out of the game too easily compared to other top wingers.
Slows you down as opposed to who else on the team? He's one of the few players capable of quick link up play, one of two players capable of beating his man on skills alone, and the only one showing consistent goalscoring at the moment.
Again, understand what kind of team you have at your disposal to appreciate what Martial is working with to make something happen. I can't think of a single player on this United team to which your criticism least applies to than Martial when it comes to attacking options.
Apparently Martial has not had a shot off target in the league this season.
Oh, the one dimensional argument is back... some people really have no clue.
Yes it's not like we don't already know martial has a mint cutback for when defenders overcommit to block his right foot.
Or his pretty good short passing game, or the way he draws fouls with his back to goal... but yeah, all he does is cut in.
Thats an excuse.He is part of the team so he is also part of the problem.This is something that i and many others have echoed from watching him play with our very own eyes.Hence the reason why many have criticized his movement. Or lack of it.
He is a very good potentially great player and i am glad we have him but he has his faults.Dont get me wrong he doesnt always slow us down but he does it a lot.
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