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Jazz

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I wonder if he wants to leave? Maybe that's why he's not getting picked?
 

Foxbatt

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Finally he isnt getting in the squad, we already got Lukaku for the Plan B and lump it to him if we need to. Fellaini just isnt good enough
Lukaku could not head even a balloon. He has no concept of heading at all.
 

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you guys do not understand. Fergie won because we had other options available. Right now we do not have those options available. Selling him is good if we get the players we need so that we do not need that option of Fellaini. Right now we do not have that options of buying those players before the summer.
The amount of times he's come on as a plan B and had a positive impact is tiny anyway. People massively overstate how successful lumping it up to him has been.

I love the fact Ole has dramatically reduced his game time.
 

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you guys do not understand. Fergie won because we had other options available. Right now we do not have those options available. Selling him is good if we get the players we need so that we do not need that option of Fellaini. Right now we do not have that options of buying those players before the summer.
We have Lukaku and Sanchez as options. We don't need him anymore.
 

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Can’t play any of the midfield roles in the new style of play and he isn’t actually effective as an impact sub from the bench, not regularly anyway.

None of the other top sides resort to hoof ball if plan A isn’t working, they tweak tactics or have other options. Ole isn’t making same mistake as his predecessors and resorting to a plan B that no other top team uses or wants to use. Wasn’t missed today and won’t be if he is moved on now or in the summer.
 

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Unless he is injured then he's basically 7th choice in midfield now. Not looking good for him but i think he'll see out the season to see who the permanent manager is going to be. If it's Ole then he'll be moving on.
 

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Yes move him in the summer by all means but while he is here he is useful. I feel he would have done a better job than Lukaku today coming on late in the game.
 

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Fellaini does not have the pace or the technical ability to play the type of football Ole is trying to implement/play.
 

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Is apparently on borrowed time according to Jim White, reckons Ole wants rid and doesn't like his attitude. He also thinks McTominay could be on the way out but has said Fellaini "specifically" is being pushed out

If it's true? Don't know, but if it is, finally a manager who gets it.
 

jeff_goldblum

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Would have done better than Lukaku yesterday. If you want someone to bring down long balls and hold the ball up to take pressure off the defence Fellaini's your boy. The fact he didn't make the bench in a game where his attributes would clearly have been tactically useful probably means he'll be gone by the end of the Summer.
 

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Would have done better than Lukaku yesterday. If you want someone to bring down long balls and hold the ball up to take pressure off the defence Fellaini's your boy. The fact he didn't make the bench in a game where his attributes would clearly have been tactically useful probably means he'll be gone by the end of the Summer.
Lukaku was on the bench as a back-up striker, he's clearly a better striker than Fellaini who isn't even a striker. Fellaini may be better at that one specific thing as you point out but if Martial or Rashford had got injured then Lukaku was a better option to replace them with yesterdays tactics.
 

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Is apparently on borrowed time according to Jim White, reckons Ole wants rid and doesn't like his attitude. He also thinks McTominay could be on the way out but has said Fellaini "specifically" is being pushed out

If it's true? Don't know, but if it is, finally a manager who gets it.
This is not true for the fact at this moment in time Ole has no say in who goes or who stays as he is only the Interim Manager. The new incoming manager may want him to stay so the club is not going to let Ole make any decisions on any players.
 

Cassidy

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This is not true for the fact at this moment in time Ole has no say in who goes or who stays as he is only the Interim Manager. The new incoming manager may want him to stay so the club is not going to let Ole make any decisions on any players.
We have no idea what is happening behind the scenes
 

Foxbatt

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We have no idea what is happening behind the scenes
Of course we all know. If Ole is going to be the manager then he would have support in this this window too. The fact that he has said he has no options to get anyone in January means that the club has not decided. It would also be foolish to give the Manager's position now as there is a lot of the season to go.
 

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Of course we all know. If Ole is going to be the manager then he would have support in this this window too. The fact that he has said he has no options to get anyone in January means that the club has not decided. It would also be foolish to give the Manager's position now as there is a lot of the season to go.
I meant regarding decisions on players. Just because you think something would be stupid doesn't mean it isn't happening.
 

jeff_goldblum

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Lukaku was on the bench as a back-up striker, he's clearly a better striker than Fellaini who isn't even a striker. Fellaini may be better at that one specific thing as you point out but if Martial or Rashford had got injured then Lukaku was a better option to replace them with yesterdays tactics.
Yeah that's true, I guess Fellaini would have taken the place of Fred, McTominay or Pereira on the bench. I think Ole's plan when we came under pressure was to use a fresh Lukaku as an out-ball by clearing the ball into the channels to him to chase. As it happened, he ended up just loitering around in the middle of the pitch in an area where Fellaini would have been far more useful, but Fellaini would have been equally ineffective in the above gameplan as Rom ended up being.
 

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I would have liked to have had Fellani on the bench yesterday. Would have been better to bring him instead of Lukaku, pushed Pogbas further up and kept Rashford up top.
Spurs were putting in cross after cross and the only guy in our team who consitantly wins headers in the box is Fellani.
I would have had him screening the CBs, Herrera and Matic helping out the full backs and Pogba, Lingard and Rashford upfront. Helps close out the game whilst giving us pace on th counter.
 

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This is not true for the fact at this moment in time Ole has no say in who goes or who stays as he is only the Interim Manager. The new incoming manager may want him to stay so the club is not going to let Ole make any decisions on any players.
This isn’t necessarily true. Just as someone at the club had the good sense to tell José “Hey, we are not under any circumstances selling Martial” then perhaps the higher ups don’t view Felliani as a player who represents the type of football that they want for the club. I’m not necessarily saying that’s right or wrong, but it is a possibility.

There was also all the antics over his renewal last summer, when it was clear the club were happy to get rid, and he was only kept because Mourinho wanted him so badly. It begins to paint a picture that Felliani may not be too highly regarded at the club.
 

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Fellaini has to go. I have no doubt about that. But if Fellaini is available and then if the Manager does not use him because he would have been much more useful than Lukaku for sure then it does not show the manager in a good light. The same with the players too in that regard. If he an asset of the club and if he can be better used than the current asset that is being used then it is the manager's problem.
 

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None of the other top sides resort to hoof ball if plan A isn’t working, they tweak tactics or have other options. Ole isn’t making same mistake as his predecessors and resorting to a plan B that no other top team uses or wants to use. Wasn’t missed today and won’t be if he is moved on now or in the summer.
Rubbish. They all do it. Liverpool have often left VVD up top when they're chasing a game, even City go more direct.
 

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Rubbish. They all do it. Liverpool have often left VVD up top when they're chasing a game, even City go more direct.
Yup. Seen liverpool do it , Spurs did exactly the same when they brought in Llorente in last 10 mins. I have no qualms in doing it if nothing is working out. It's just that it cannot become a regular pattern. 90% of games we should be winning without hoofing.
 

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Is apparently on borrowed time according to Jim White, reckons Ole wants rid and doesn't like his attitude. He also thinks McTominay could be on the way out but has said Fellaini "specifically" is being pushed out

If it's true? Don't know, but if it is, finally a manager who gets it.
Very surprising if attitude is the issue. If anything, Fellaini is praised for keeping his head down and following instructions. I'm not so sure about this.

Fellaini has to go. I have no doubt about that. But if Fellaini is available and then if the Manager does not use him because he would have been much more useful than Lukaku for sure then it does not show the manager in a good light. The same with the players too in that regard. If he an asset of the club and if he can be better used than the current asset that is being used then it is the manager's problem.
Yep. Whether it is Pogba/Jose or Fellaini/Ole, I don't like us not using certain players for reasons not related to their actual abilities. Fact is, Fellaini would have been useful for us yesterday.

I hope Ole is not using Fellaini to pander to the crowd who perceive him as the mascot for everything wrong that has happened in the past 4 years. But if it's an attitude problem in truth, his ostracization is justified.
 

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Yup. Seen liverpool do it , Spurs did exactly the same when they brought in Llorente in last 10 mins. I have no qualms in doing it if nothing is working out. It's just that it cannot become a regular pattern. 90% of games we should be winning without hoofing.
You're right. Our issue wasn't that we frequently used it as our plan B, it was that we had to use our plan B as often as we did.

I'm apathetic towards whether Fellaini stays or leaves, but the continued devaluation of his contribution during his time here is wrong.
 

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There's no way Fellaini is getting on the pitch ahead of someone we paid £75m 18 months ago, to do the same job.
 

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I hope Ole is not using Fellaini to pander to the crowd who perceive him as the mascot for everything wrong that has happened in the past 4 years. But if it's an attitude problem in truth, his ostracization is justified.
That would be completely unnecessary of Ole given how beloved his by the crowd. Fellaini just doesn't strike me as an Ole (and in turn a Fergie) type of player irrespective of his attitude.
 

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You're right. Our issue wasn't that we frequently used it as our plan B, it was that we had to use our plan B as often as we did.

I'm apathetic towards whether Fellaini stays or leaves, but the continued devaluation of his contribution during his time here is wrong.
Agree, i feel the same way about Fellaini. Not sad he's leaving and not excited if he's staying. He has some traits that could be useful for a team that plays certain way. I know he's not the type we should sign but value what he did in certain games for the club.
 

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Yeah that's true, I guess Fellaini would have taken the place of Fred, McTominay or Pereira on the bench. I think Ole's plan when we came under pressure was to use a fresh Lukaku as an out-ball by clearing the ball into the channels to him to chase. As it happened, he ended up just loitering around in the middle of the pitch in an area where Fellaini would have been far more useful, but Fellaini would have been equally ineffective in the above gameplan as Rom ended up being.
Yeah theres a case to be made that he could have been more useful on the bench than one of those 3. But evidently Solskjaer just doesn't fancy Fellaini, whether thats down to his inability to play the type of football he's introducing, attitude behind the scenes or both is anyones guess.
 

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He would have been very useful to bring on yesterday - especially when Llorente came on.
Immediately thought the same thing yesterday when i seen Llorente coming on. It really highlights that we really desperately need to get some defenders who can head a ball other than Smalling.
 
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