Maurizio Sarri - Chelsea coach

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Chelsea will do what they always do if they get a new manager mid season and play out their skins for him for a while

So I hope Sarri is given the season and continues to burn bridges
 

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I'm still a believer in Sarri. Think Chelsea is just a little rotten to the core with mentally weak players.
there's too much culture shock after years of pragmatic defensive managers to suddenly change to switch to attacking football and perfect after in one year. Sarri needs to swallow his pride and return Kante to his position/switch tactics to achieve short term goals but implementing new philosophy depends on long term vision of board and if they're willing to commit longer and get DOF. This is bigger than any one individual.
 
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Questioning the players mentality is nonsense in my opinion. This isn't them under performing after doing well with a manager, this is a manager that has not shown anything remarkable in his time here. His first decision at the club was to undermine one of their best players (Kante) and nothing has justified it.

Many of these players have shown that they are open to a manager's ideas if they work well. They have performed under both Mourinho and Conte for at least 1 season before 'downing tools'. It looks as if they aren't buying into what Sarri is selling, Chelsea are no better than last season, they were flying in the first half of last season but Conte had a meltdown when he went into a media battle with Mourinho.
 

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Eh what ? 90% of this team won the league 2 years ago and almost the entire team has more trophies in their cabinet than the entire Sarri history. If there's one weak mentally in this club, then it's definitely the one who has won feck all in his career. Sarri is in no position to criticize the mentality of his players. They're all proven winners.
I think they're proven whiners. When the new coach is in, they keep brown nosing, saying it's so much better... and then all of sudden, when the coach asks for hard work, they stop backing him. This is not a winner mentality, it's a whiner mentality.
 

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Eh what ? 90% of this team won the league 2 years ago and almost the entire team has more trophies in their cabinet than the entire Sarri history. If there's one weak mentally in this club, then it's definitely the one who has won feck all in his career. Sarri is in no position to criticize the mentality of his players. They're all proven winners.
Rich coming from someone who defended Mourinho till few months ago! I'm just messing with you :)

Anyway, I think Sarri has never been in a position to win a league. Winners can also be mentally weak btw. Look at City. They won the league with such ease but gaps in their mentality are showing now.
 

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Rich coming from someone who defended Mourinho till few months ago! I'm just messing with you :)

Anyway, I think Sarri has never been in a position to win a league. Winners can also be mentally weak btw. Look at City. They won the league with such ease but gaps in their mentality are showing now.
Well no problem at all mate.

I have moved on from Mourinho the moment he left the club but at least he won things in his life to question his players mentality.

Sarri is in no position to do that. He has been a loser for his entire career and the first thing Chelsea players will tell themselves is what I said "who is this man to question our mentality when all of us have more trophies than his entire career ? He should shut the feck up" etc.

They aren't necessarily weak mentally but the problem with them is like Madrid's players they don't accept BS from their manager very lightly. Chelsea players drove managers with more prestige and titles in their career out of the club so I'm not sure it'll be any hard for them to drive Sarri out of the club considering he's even in worse state when it comes to prestige in comparison to Conte and Mourinho.

He simply needs to play it safe with them and try to find a solution for his terrible tactics that's fecking up their midfield. This will have better chance to succeed with Chelsea players than questioning them.

I remember when Conte first came he struggled with Matic and Kante roles in midfield and kept mixing them which fecked them up in the beginning of the season then tweaked it after Arsenal defeat and this worked for them. Sarri needs to adapt. He can't play Jorginho at the back and Kante upfront in premier league.
 

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Well no problem at all mate.

I have moved on from Mourinho the moment he left the club but at least he won things in his life to question his players mentality.

Sarri is in no position to do that. He has been a loser for his entire career and the first thing Chelsea players will tell themselves is what I said "who is this man to question our mentality when all of us have more trophies than his entire career ? He should shut the feck up" etc.

They aren't necessarily weak mentally but the problem with them is like Madrid's players they don't accept BS from their manager very lightly. Chelsea players drove managers with more prestige and titles in their career out of the club so I'm not sure it'll be any hard for them to drive Sarri out of the club considering he's even in worse state when it comes to prestige in comparison to Conte and Mourinho.

He simply needs to play it safe with them and try to find a solution for his terrible tactics that's fecking up their midfield. This will have better chance to succeed with Chelsea players than questioning them.

I remember when Conte first came he struggled with Matic and Kante roles in midfield and kept mixing them which fecked them up in the beginning of the season then tweaked it after Arsenal defeat and this worked for them. Sarri needs to adapt. He can't play Jorginho at the back and Kante upfront in premier league.

Yeah he possibly needs to adapt but Sarri is a "loser"? What has he lost out on?
 

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Yeah he possibly needs to adapt but Sarri is a "loser"? What has he lost out on?
In comparison to Chelsea players, they'll treat him like that.

He didn't manage any big club in his career up till Chelsea and the best he managed was Napoli despite him hitting his 60. That speaks poorly about him imo.
 

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Eh what ? 90% of this team won the league 2 years ago and almost the entire team has more trophies in their cabinet than the entire Sarri history. If there's one weak mentally in this club, then it's definitely the one who has won feck all in his career. Sarri is in no position to criticize the mentality of his players. They're all proven winners.
They’re too often mood players. When things are good they’re amazing. When things start going bad they down tools. For a club that used to pride itself on fighting no matter what, it’s hard to take sometimes. If we moved Hazard and Willian on, I wouldn’t be too upset. I’m becoming increasingly convinced that those two are holding us back from building a consistent, dedicated team.
 

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In comparison to Chelsea players, they'll treat him like that.

He didn't manage any big club in his career up till Chelsea and the best he managed was Napoli despite him hitting his 60. That speaks poorly about him imo.
If Chelsea fans truly have that opinion then that's plain stupid.

This guy had to start from the complete bottom of football and he made it to Chelsea. His record speaks for itself. Ridiculous to call him a loser. Just look at his record. This is his first time in a real top club and he's trailing behind Poch, Pep and Klopp that have really really strong squads.

I have no doubt Sarri will eventually be successful, be it at Chelsea or not. If Chelsea players think he is a loser then they lack intelligence.
 

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If Chelsea fans truly have that opinion then that's plain stupid.

This guy had to start from the complete bottom of football and he made it to Chelsea. His record speaks for itself. Ridiculous to call him a loser. Just look at his record. This is his first time in a real top club and he's trailing behind Poch, Pep and Klopp that have really really strong squads.

I have no doubt Sarri will eventually be successful, be it at Chelsea or not. If Chelsea players think he is a loser then they lack intelligence.
I'm talking about Chelsea players not Chelsea fans.

Well no. As I said being 60 and only just getting your first big job speaks pretty poorly about you not the contrary. Most big managers actually start to decline reaching the age of 60 and by this time they had done everything in their career they don't need to do anything anymore, not just getting their first big job. It means he was never viewed as a big manager for any other big club to move for him all this time till Chelsea thought about that.

It's even more poor considering in Italy the big clubs keep swapping their manager every couple of season, however the best job he got was with Napoli and that was in 2015. His first big job is in 2018. His career pre Napoli consist of several clubs no one ever heard about most of them. That's pretty poor for someone managing teams since, surprisingly enough, 1990.

This thing of not managing a big club so far works with younger managers but not someone who had just hit his 60. He doesn't have much left in his career actually, about 5 more years or so. Surely he's not going to manage to his 70s or 80s. He's at the end of his career not the beginning of it.
 

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I'm talking about Chelsea players not Chelsea fans.

Well no. As I said being 60 and only just getting your first big job speaks pretty poorly about you not the contrary. Most big managers actually start to decline reaching the age of 60 and by this time they had done everything in their career they don't need to do anything anymore, not just getting their first big job. It means he was never viewed as a big manager for any other big club to move for him all this time till Chelsea thought about that.

It's even more poor considering in Italy the big clubs keep swapping their manager every couple of season, however the best job he got was with Napoli and that was in 2015. His first big job is in 2018. His career pre Napoli consist of several clubs no one ever heard about most of them. That's pretty poor for someone managing teams since, surprisingly enough, 1990.


This thing of not managing a big club so far works with younger managers but not someone who had just hit his 60. He doesn't have much left in his career actually, about 5 more years or so. Surely he's not going to manage to his 70s or 80s. He's at the end of his career not the beginning of it.
You're looking at his past and not his trajectory. He started from Amateur football and climbed his way here. Someone like Zidane or Pep had a considerable head start. Moyes has been managing in the top flight for way longer than Sarri but what Sarri has achieved is 5 times that of Moyes.
 

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You're looking at his past and not his trajectory. He started from Amateur football and climbed his way here. Someone like Zidane or Pep had a considerable head start. Moyes has been managing in the top flight for way longer than Sarri but what Sarri has achieved is 5 times that of Moyes.
That doesn't change that at 60 you're pretty much at the end of your career. He has about 5-6 years left in his career imo.
 

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At the start of the season people expected it would take time for the players to be comfortable in his system. Everyone expected it would be a fight for them to get top 4. So I do not know why people are now surprised.
 

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At the start of the season people expected it would take time for the players to be comfortable in his system. Everyone expected it would be a fight for them to get top 4. So I do not know why people are now surprised.
Because they started the season really well.

Never a good sign if you get worse as a season goes on.
 

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At the start of the season people expected it would take time for the players to be comfortable in his system. Everyone expected it would be a fight for them to get top 4. So I do not know why people are now surprised.
The problem is in the details for me. He decided he wants to play only a certain way, which is fine I suppose, but doing that by playing his best players out of position is not the right way to go about it IMO.

Kante is no creative midfielder and Hazard is no striker. It's the manager's fault that they played poorly over the last few weeks and to make matters worse, he decided to slate his players in the media. They will be even less bothered to try and adjust to his tactics going forward.
 

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The problem is in the details for me. He decided he wants to play only a certain way, which is fine I suppose, but doing that by playing his best players out of position is not the right way to go about it IMO.

Kante is no creative midfielder and Hazard is no striker. It's the manager's fault that they played poorly over the last few weeks and to make matters worse, he decided to slate his players in the media. They will be even less bothered to try and adjust to his tactics going forward.
See his pressers though. He said for the 4-0 the team actually played well first half and it could be his problem that he can't motivate them. It's a bit more nuanced than "Sarri bashing his players".
 

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See his pressers though. He said for the 4-0 the team actually played well first half and it could be his problem that he can't motivate them. It's a bit more nuanced than "Sarri bashing his players".
I've watched both interviews. The "failed to motivate" comment is just another passive aggressive jab at the players though. Just saying that the players aren't motivated to play for the club. No manager does it, but if he was really going to take blame for the situation then he should be admitting that he made a massive tactical cock up which is the real problem. Players not being motivated is only a symptom.
 

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I've watched both interviews. The "failed to motivate" comment is just another passive aggressive jab at the players though. Just saying that the players aren't motivated to play for the club. No manager does it, but if he was really going to take blame for the situation then he should be admitting that he made a massive tactical cock up which is the real problem. Players not being motivated is only a symptom.
Not 100% sure but didn't Conte go in the same direction?
 

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I've watched both interviews. The "failed to motivate" comment is just another passive aggressive jab at the players though. Just saying that the players aren't motivated to play for the club. No manager does it, but if he was really going to take blame for the situation then he should be admitting that he made a massive tactical cock up which is the real problem. Players not being motivated is only a symptom.
Well for me a passive aggressive jab is very different than an outright bashing which Mourinho would do or what the media says Sarri does.
 

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I'm on Sarri's side all the way. These Chelsea players are letting him down, just like they did for Mourinho and Conte.
 

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This was mediocre manager doing well at a mediocre league.

Chelsea literally went for the Juventus manager then replaced him with the napoli manager. Changing from number 1 to number 2 at their best.
 

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Disrespectful comparing him to LVG, LVG will go down as one of the most decorated manager in football history while this guy will go down with some lung disease.
 

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Kante is not the hill to die on here.
Yeah their big issue has been creating quality chances. I do not know how playing Kante at the base of midfield fixes that. And Jorginho is getting pressed out of matches imagine how easy that strategy would be if Kante was in Jorginho's position.
 

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Let's hope their Meltdown continues till we play them in FA Cup at the Bridge.
They played okay in the League Cup Semi-Final. They raise their game for cup games. I doubt the players care about getting top 4 because some of them won't be there next season. That's the problem with mercenaries.
 

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They’re too often mood players. When things are good they’re amazing. When things start going bad they down tools. For a club that used to pride itself on fighting no matter what, it’s hard to take sometimes. If we moved Hazard and Willian on, I wouldn’t be too upset. I’m becoming increasingly convinced that those two are holding us back from building a consistent, dedicated team.
Hazard I can understand. But why willian?