Pogba is the best midfielder in the world

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Paul Pogba has been the best midfielder in the world for sometime. And those with eyes have always seen and known
 

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Why doesn't anyone give Pogba credit for winning the fecking World Cup? were those not big enough games to judge him on? and be deemed one of/the best CM/CAM in the world? if not the World Cup then lets look at the PL! destroyed Arsenal twice at the Emirates now, was excellent last season at the Emptihad (2 nil down, 3-2 winners).

Was vital in our win at OT last season against Spurs, was vital again at Wembley against them, and Monday against Chelsea at our bogey ground Stamford Bridge put in another match winning stellar performance. It doesn't matter what he does, it seems people just have an agenda no matter what. He is imo atleast top 3 in the world.
 

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Why doesn't anyone give Pogba credit for winning the fecking World Cup? were those not big enough games to judge him on? and be deemed one of/the best CM/CAM in the world? if not the World Cup then lets look at the PL! destroyed Arsenal twice at the Emirates now, was excellent last season at the Emptihad (2 nil down, 3-2 winners).

Was vital in our win at OT last season against Spurs, was vital again at Wembley against them, and Monday against Chelsea at our bogey ground Stamford Bridge put in another match winning stellar performance. It doesn't matter what he does, it seems people just have an agenda no matter what. He is imo atleast top 3 in the world.
Because he dabbed a couple of times and likes to smile people can't take him seriously. He's been left with a stigma that he doesn't turn up because he had a few bad games once.

It's ridiculous really, he's turned up just as much as any other "world class" midfielder does. I'm glad we've relinquished him of his defensive duties as now they can't use that as a weapon to attack him with. It's all down to his creativity, and he's got that by the bucket load.

Funnily enough he actually get's praised for his defensive work now also, even though it's no different than what he used to do.
 

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Because he dabbed a couple of times and likes to smile people can't take him seriously. He's been left with a stigma that he doesn't turn up because he had a few bad games once.

It's ridiculous really, he's turned up just as much as any other "world class" midfielder does. I'm glad we've relinquished him of his defensive duties as now they can't use that as a weapon to attack him with. It's all down to his creativity, and he's got that by the bucket load.

Funnily enough he actually get's praised for his defensive work now also, even though it's no different than what he used to do.
Yeah, Since last season he has contributed to 10 goals in 12 games vs big 6 and he played most of those games under Jose and as a CM.

His defensive work rate is good, he doesn't track but he presses well in the midfield. Apart from all that, his ability to carry the ball from one end to other, especially in the last mins is so much important, it gives so much breathing space for rest of the team.

He scored in world cup finals and was very good in every knock out games in world cup but somehow he is flat track bully.
 

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He's not the best in the world.. He's is world class though, but there are a few better than him.

He can beome a Ballon D'or player in the future if he keeps it up!
 

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If he can sustain this level over another season then yes he will be.

Btw he’s in the conversation even as of now, no matter how much mental gymnastics opposition fans on here do. He’s a World Cup winning midfielder who’s having a great season. To pluck random hipster names and peddle they are better doesn’t make you a genius but only a hipster.
 

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He's world class but he has to more consistent. He had games under jose where he barely resembled a footballer. No doubt under ole so far he's amazingly creative with goals and assists if he keeps it up hes in contention for being the best midfielder in the world.
 

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Isn't this the same guy that got pocketed for whole 90 Minutes by Marquinhos and literally a flat track bully or you guys talk about someone else ?

Till he actually perform against world class team , he is nowhere near the best midfielder. I want to see him being unplayable against the very best of the world such Real Madrid , Barcelona , Juventus , PSG, Bayern before further judgement not just bullying dross such as Cardiff ,Bournemouth etc.
But he has done that in the past,united is not the first club he played for you know.
 

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He is nowhere near the greatest mid to play for this club.

Also he seems to play well behind two actual midfielders. So that's more like playing behind a striker with hardly any defensive responsibilities.

Its really an insult to the great midfielders who have graced this game.
For some reason people have obsession with so called midfielders who scores goals, but these so called midfielders hardly can play well in 2 man midfield setup.
If we compare his goal scoring to players who play behind strikers, then he is just another good player. Nothing more.
I see you are hurt cause some prefer him to scholes,
If you continue living in the past,you'll never move on.
 

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He's world class but he has to more consistent. He had games under jose where he barely resembled a footballer. No doubt under ole so far he's amazingly creative with goals and assists if he keeps it up hes in contention for being the best midfielder in the world.
Which few midfielders are better, out of curiousity?
 

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The amount of worship our 3 midfielders get its odd how they can't control a game for shit far too often and we end up having heart attacks in many of the key games. We've been schooled in the last fortnight alone. Pogs has been reborn under Ole here at United agreed but I'd much rather see a few seasons of him earning the accolades already being bestowed on him. It just seems very premature from a biased fanbase......
 

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You can keep the jury out on this one, but it's amazing how every time he has delivered a world class performance, you've discounted it as an opponent issue.

City very much wanted to beat United and win the title. His goals were not because City made it easy for him. 'What is Spurs' really? Spurs is a top team by all means and currently 5 points of first. 3 of which were lost because of a peice of brilliance by Pogba.

Chelsea may have an up and down form at the moment, but they were definitely up for the game. Their issue was a lack of tactical flexibility by their manager. Pogbas contribution in those two goals (our offence) was imperative to take advantage of that.

In any event - none of the above makes any of those teams dross.

Our team is 2-3 years away from really having a squad that can compete for the CL title - assuming good decisions are made from here on. That has nothing to do with Pogba. If anything, him and Hererra being in the form that they are is actually hiding a lot of these weaknesses.
Judging on his previous 16 Posts I’m thinking we have a new WUM in the caf.
 

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He sure is, we need to make sure his long term future is with us, tie him down to a fresh long term contract. Build a team around him, martial, de gea and rashford
 

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He is nowhere near the greatest mid to play for this club.

Also he seems to play well behind two actual midfielders. So that's more like playing behind a striker with hardly any defensive responsibilities.

Its really an insult to the great midfielders who have graced this game.
For some reason people have obsession with so called midfielders who scores goals, but these so called midfielders hardly can play well in 2 man midfield setup.
If we compare his goal scoring to players who play behind strikers, then he is just another good player. Nothing more.
Absolutely spot on. Frank Lampard score loads of goal in his career even
more than most striker , add with the fact that he played under many defensive manager which makes his number more ridiculous but is there anyone here put him under top 10 best midfielder ever ? Goals and assist is a bonus for midfielder ,not measurements.
 

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Paul Pogba has been the best midfielder in the world for sometime. And those with eyes have always seen and known
Absolute tosh! While he’s a supremely talented footballer he’s not a great midfielder, not sure if he even is a midfielder.He simply dosn’t get hold of games and dictate them in the way a great midfielder , Keane for example , would.
 

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Absolute tosh! While he’s a supremely talented footballer he’s not a great midfielder, not sure if he even is a midfielder.He simply dosn’t get hold of games and dictate them in the way a great midfielder , Keane for example , would.
Yep.
Keane the water carrier is a better midfielder than Zico because the brazilian scored and assisted a lot.

Irish people with Roy Keane are sometimes :houllier:
 

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I only really watch United live so I don't know. But he is without question the most gifted player in the team and right now, also the most important player.
 

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Absolutely spot on. Frank Lampard score loads of goal in his career even
more than most striker , add with the fact that he played under many defensive manager which makes his number more ridiculous but is there anyone here put him under top 10 best midfielder ever ? Goals and assist is a bonus for midfielder ,not measurements.
The modern midfielder does it all. Pogba is example of the modern midfielder.
him playing behind two defensive midfielders doesn't take anything away from that since he can also contribue without the ball as seen in the world cup.
 

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Players like Verratti and Keane dominate the midfield from minute 1 to minute 90.

Players like Pogba, Gerrard and Lampard win you games through individual moments of brilliance.
 

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Players like Verratti and Xavi dominate the midfield from minute 1 to minute 90.

Players like Pogba, Gerrard and Lampard win you games through individual moments of brilliance.
Player like Pirlo, Xavi, Verratti are DLP. They help the team to control the possession.

While player like Pogba, Zidane, Ronaldinho are number 10. They win you games with their magic and entertains the fans.

The world always prefered the second group because they are special players.

Sorry ;)
 

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Players like Verratti and Keane dominate the midfield from minute 1 to minute 90.

Players like Pogba, Gerrard and Lampard win you games through individual moments of brilliance.
controlling centre midfield without the stardust and flair of the attacking midfield is pointless.
 

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controlling centre midfield without the stardust and flair of the attacking midfield is pointless.
True. Any great team needs both to succeed.

At the moment, Manchester United only have one (I think even most fans would agree with me on that).
 

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Players like Verratti and Keane dominate the midfield from minute 1 to minute 90.

Players like Pogba, Gerrard and Lampard win you games through individual moments of brilliance.
Yeah, personally I think the best midfielder is usually the one who can dominate the midfield over the more attacking players. However, it is possible to be even if they're that good. For example, at Barca there was Iniesta and Xavi. Xavi was the type to control the midfield, and Iniesta was more of a player that affected the final 3rd, albeit in a different way than Pogba. Iniesta was good at getting into great areas with his ability to operate in small spaces, setting up the assist, and just linking up the attack. And just like Pogba, he would help in controlling the game. Zidane was this kind of player.

In his current form, I don't think it's an exaggeration that Pogba is currently the best even if Modric was at his best. Usually the Modric type are great in the biggest games, but I can't really criticize Pogba in that area. He's been great in the big matches this season, and internationally.
 

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If you could have Scholes back at the same age instead of Pogba, would you take him though?

You'd be hard pushed to say yes.
 

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Yes he gave away a penalty.
And since this game in january 2017, he's always good against the top 6 but for some people this game was yesterday and Pogba isn't a big game player.
 

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If you could have Scholes back at the same age instead of Pogba, would you take him though?

You'd be hard pushed to say yes.
Pogba has been better than prime Scholes the last few months. I can’t think of a time that Scholes racked up the stats that pogba has in the last 11 games or so but Scholes was immense for a long time and pogba has been hit and miss for nearly 3 seasons and is only now showing consistency. Time will tell. But I don’t see pogba staying here for much longer and so therefore he will never be a legend at the level of Scholes.
 

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He probably is and it just shows you the current state of football and lack of great players/midfielders currently playing.

Not that hes not a very good even world class player but for someone who has as many sunday league rooney esque performances and that needs two defensive midfielders next to him to be the named the best midfielder in the world it says a lot.

Dont think we are gonna have xavis,iniestas or zidanes for a long time.
 

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Hmmm... He didn't look it against PSG did he? Best in the PL though I reckon.
Agree he didn't. I think that's probably more to do with how well Marquinhos did. I know the argument could be made that Pogba should have still managed to overcome him but Marquinhos really did a brilliant job on the night. Park v Pirlo at AC comes to mind. Completely nullified him.
 

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Agree he didn't. I think that's probably more to do with how well Marquinhos did. I know the argument could be made that Pogba should have still managed to overcome him but Marquinhos really did a brilliant job on the night. Park v Pirlo at AC comes to mind. Completely nullified him.

Kaka was worst. He was the best player in the world and had players like Seedorf and Pirlo around him.
 

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And since this game in january 2017, he's always good against the top 6 but for some people this game was yesterday and Pogba isn't a big game player.
Yes and also since January 2017 he has been horrifically inconsistent. He has been a borderline flop until ole took over and recently he has been incredible. I’m not sure what you are getting at, he has hardly proved to be a big game player in a united shirt untill recently. He’s had his moments no doubt, but he has failed to live up to the hype in the big games and the lesser ones and the criticism was hardly unwarranted. Post Jose though there is no doubt he has been immense. Long may it continue.
 

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And he did get neutralised so how is he the best ? Many top teams has tried to neutralised Messi or Ronaldo and they still run riot in most games which is why they both had 10 ballon d'or among them. Pretty sure we all expect "the best midfielder" to put a dominating performance and inspire us against European Elite last week only to watch him pocketed by some unknown from farmers league and red carded. I am waiting the day Pogba can show how unplayable he is when a top team with top players tried to neutralised and fail. Till now i don't see it yet , He always gets neutralised when it matters.
Wouldnt go that far.
He has put in some good performances vs great teams but i do think hes put in some average performances and some rooney esque pub team performances vs good teams as well.
 

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Kaka was worst. He was the best player in the world and had players like Seedorf and Pirlo around him.
Really don't remember well enough but I just remember Park literally man-marking Pirlo for most of the game. Infact, I'm sure Pirlo gave an interview about how he was almost disgusted that he got man marked out. Clearly too much of a purist to believe anyone should man mark anyone :lol: