You’re all late tbh, I carried the cross on the caf with this view since last yearhttps://www.redcafe.net/threads/paul-pogba-is-the-best-midfielder-in-the-world.444360/
You're late to the party pal. We already reached that consensus a month ago
You’re all late tbh, I carried the cross on the caf with this view since last yearhttps://www.redcafe.net/threads/paul-pogba-is-the-best-midfielder-in-the-world.444360/
You're late to the party pal. We already reached that consensus a month ago
Because he dabbed a couple of times and likes to smile people can't take him seriously. He's been left with a stigma that he doesn't turn up because he had a few bad games once.Why doesn't anyone give Pogba credit for winning the fecking World Cup? were those not big enough games to judge him on? and be deemed one of/the best CM/CAM in the world? if not the World Cup then lets look at the PL! destroyed Arsenal twice at the Emirates now, was excellent last season at the Emptihad (2 nil down, 3-2 winners).
Was vital in our win at OT last season against Spurs, was vital again at Wembley against them, and Monday against Chelsea at our bogey ground Stamford Bridge put in another match winning stellar performance. It doesn't matter what he does, it seems people just have an agenda no matter what. He is imo atleast top 3 in the world.
Yeah, Since last season he has contributed to 10 goals in 12 games vs big 6 and he played most of those games under Jose and as a CM.Because he dabbed a couple of times and likes to smile people can't take him seriously. He's been left with a stigma that he doesn't turn up because he had a few bad games once.
It's ridiculous really, he's turned up just as much as any other "world class" midfielder does. I'm glad we've relinquished him of his defensive duties as now they can't use that as a weapon to attack him with. It's all down to his creativity, and he's got that by the bucket load.
Funnily enough he actually get's praised for his defensive work now also, even though it's no different than what he used to do.
But he has done that in the past,united is not the first club he played for you know.Isn't this the same guy that got pocketed for whole 90 Minutes by Marquinhos and literally a flat track bully or you guys talk about someone else ?
Till he actually perform against world class team , he is nowhere near the best midfielder. I want to see him being unplayable against the very best of the world such Real Madrid , Barcelona , Juventus , PSG, Bayern before further judgement not just bullying dross such as Cardiff ,Bournemouth etc.
I see you are hurt cause some prefer him to scholes,He is nowhere near the greatest mid to play for this club.
Also he seems to play well behind two actual midfielders. So that's more like playing behind a striker with hardly any defensive responsibilities.
Its really an insult to the great midfielders who have graced this game.
For some reason people have obsession with so called midfielders who scores goals, but these so called midfielders hardly can play well in 2 man midfield setup.
If we compare his goal scoring to players who play behind strikers, then he is just another good player. Nothing more.
Which few midfielders are better, out of curiousity?He's world class but he has to more consistent. He had games under jose where he barely resembled a footballer. No doubt under ole so far he's amazingly creative with goals and assists if he keeps it up hes in contention for being the best midfielder in the world.
Judging on his previous 16 Posts I’m thinking we have a new WUM in the caf.You can keep the jury out on this one, but it's amazing how every time he has delivered a world class performance, you've discounted it as an opponent issue.
City very much wanted to beat United and win the title. His goals were not because City made it easy for him. 'What is Spurs' really? Spurs is a top team by all means and currently 5 points of first. 3 of which were lost because of a peice of brilliance by Pogba.
Chelsea may have an up and down form at the moment, but they were definitely up for the game. Their issue was a lack of tactical flexibility by their manager. Pogbas contribution in those two goals (our offence) was imperative to take advantage of that.
In any event - none of the above makes any of those teams dross.
Our team is 2-3 years away from really having a squad that can compete for the CL title - assuming good decisions are made from here on. That has nothing to do with Pogba. If anything, him and Hererra being in the form that they are is actually hiding a lot of these weaknesses.
Has Pogba never played v the Scousers??
he has but think he was injured and/or dropped for recent matches vs themHas Pogba never played v the Scousers??
He didn't last season and this.Has Pogba never played v the Scousers??
I guess so!Judging on his previous 16 Posts I’m thinking we have a new WUM in the caf.
Absolutely spot on. Frank Lampard score loads of goal in his career evenHe is nowhere near the greatest mid to play for this club.
Also he seems to play well behind two actual midfielders. So that's more like playing behind a striker with hardly any defensive responsibilities.
Its really an insult to the great midfielders who have graced this game.
For some reason people have obsession with so called midfielders who scores goals, but these so called midfielders hardly can play well in 2 man midfield setup.
If we compare his goal scoring to players who play behind strikers, then he is just another good player. Nothing more.
Absolute tosh! While he’s a supremely talented footballer he’s not a great midfielder, not sure if he even is a midfielder.He simply dosn’t get hold of games and dictate them in the way a great midfielder , Keane for example , would.Paul Pogba has been the best midfielder in the world for sometime. And those with eyes have always seen and known
Yep.Absolute tosh! While he’s a supremely talented footballer he’s not a great midfielder, not sure if he even is a midfielder.He simply dosn’t get hold of games and dictate them in the way a great midfielder , Keane for example , would.
The modern midfielder does it all. Pogba is example of the modern midfielder.Absolutely spot on. Frank Lampard score loads of goal in his career even
more than most striker , add with the fact that he played under many defensive manager which makes his number more ridiculous but is there anyone here put him under top 10 best midfielder ever ? Goals and assist is a bonus for midfielder ,not measurements.
Player like Pirlo, Xavi, Verratti are DLP. They help the team to control the possession.Players like Verratti and Xavi dominate the midfield from minute 1 to minute 90.
Players like Pogba, Gerrard and Lampard win you games through individual moments of brilliance.
controlling centre midfield without the stardust and flair of the attacking midfield is pointless.Players like Verratti and Keane dominate the midfield from minute 1 to minute 90.
Players like Pogba, Gerrard and Lampard win you games through individual moments of brilliance.
True. Any great team needs both to succeed.controlling centre midfield without the stardust and flair of the attacking midfield is pointless.
Yeah, personally I think the best midfielder is usually the one who can dominate the midfield over the more attacking players. However, it is possible to be even if they're that good. For example, at Barca there was Iniesta and Xavi. Xavi was the type to control the midfield, and Iniesta was more of a player that affected the final 3rd, albeit in a different way than Pogba. Iniesta was good at getting into great areas with his ability to operate in small spaces, setting up the assist, and just linking up the attack. And just like Pogba, he would help in controlling the game. Zidane was this kind of player.Players like Verratti and Keane dominate the midfield from minute 1 to minute 90.
Players like Pogba, Gerrard and Lampard win you games through individual moments of brilliance.
Yes he gave away a penalty.Has Pogba never played v the Scousers??
And since this game in january 2017, he's always good against the top 6 but for some people this game was yesterday and Pogba isn't a big game player.Yes he gave away a penalty.
Pogba has been better than prime Scholes the last few months. I can’t think of a time that Scholes racked up the stats that pogba has in the last 11 games or so but Scholes was immense for a long time and pogba has been hit and miss for nearly 3 seasons and is only now showing consistency. Time will tell. But I don’t see pogba staying here for much longer and so therefore he will never be a legend at the level of Scholes.If you could have Scholes back at the same age instead of Pogba, would you take him though?
You'd be hard pushed to say yes.
DefinitelyIf you could have Scholes back at the same age instead of Pogba, would you take him though?
You'd be hard pushed to say yes.
No.If you could have Scholes back at the same age instead of Pogba, would you take him though?
You'd be hard pushed to say yes.
Agree he didn't. I think that's probably more to do with how well Marquinhos did. I know the argument could be made that Pogba should have still managed to overcome him but Marquinhos really did a brilliant job on the night. Park v Pirlo at AC comes to mind. Completely nullified him.Hmmm... He didn't look it against PSG did he? Best in the PL though I reckon.
Agree he didn't. I think that's probably more to do with how well Marquinhos did. I know the argument could be made that Pogba should have still managed to overcome him but Marquinhos really did a brilliant job on the night. Park v Pirlo at AC comes to mind. Completely nullified him.
Yes and also since January 2017 he has been horrifically inconsistent. He has been a borderline flop until ole took over and recently he has been incredible. I’m not sure what you are getting at, he has hardly proved to be a big game player in a united shirt untill recently. He’s had his moments no doubt, but he has failed to live up to the hype in the big games and the lesser ones and the criticism was hardly unwarranted. Post Jose though there is no doubt he has been immense. Long may it continue.And since this game in january 2017, he's always good against the top 6 but for some people this game was yesterday and Pogba isn't a big game player.
Wouldnt go that far.And he did get neutralised so how is he the best ? Many top teams has tried to neutralised Messi or Ronaldo and they still run riot in most games which is why they both had 10 ballon d'or among them. Pretty sure we all expect "the best midfielder" to put a dominating performance and inspire us against European Elite last week only to watch him pocketed by some unknown from farmers league and red carded. I am waiting the day Pogba can show how unplayable he is when a top team with top players tried to neutralised and fail. Till now i don't see it yet , He always gets neutralised when it matters.
Really don't remember well enough but I just remember Park literally man-marking Pirlo for most of the game. Infact, I'm sure Pirlo gave an interview about how he was almost disgusted that he got man marked out. Clearly too much of a purist to believe anyone should man mark anyoneKaka was worst. He was the best player in the world and had players like Seedorf and Pirlo around him.