Are you intentionally being ignorant or you don’t know there re different roles in midfield? You mentioned Keane dictacting games . Yes he does dictate games , but does he score and assist anywhere as much as Pogba does? Pogba doesn’t play in a role where he is supposed to dictacte the play. He plays in a role where he is to affect things in the final third. That doesn’t make him better or worse than Keane. It’s different roles.
What makes you say I’m being ignorant? I accept he’s a supremely talented footballer I just don’t believe he’s a midfielder in the traditional sense.
Maybe in 1995. Most midfielders nowadays are way more specialized than that. Even Roy Keane for all his virtues was never the "dictates and dominates" kind. He was more the "kick the opposition whenever they come close and give the ball to more skilled players" type. Keane's style was much closer to Herrera than Pogba. Do you consider Herrera a better midfielder than Pogba as well?
I'm starting to feel that a lot of fans don't say it loudly but think that Herrera is better because " he gets the club ".
There re loads of midfielders who don’t knit it all together or dictate the midfield. You seem to ignore there are different roles in midfield. That’s why I said you are ignorant. Those who dictate the tempo and others attack. Those who do all of, don’t do all at equal levels. Example with how much Pogba assists and scores, he can sit back to dictate tempo, because then he won’t be able to assist or score as much. An example is lampard. What I wrote was very detailed. And I am basically repeating.
I thought the general consensus was he was a flop and overrated.
Keane was definitely a dictate and dominate kind
Since when did Keane turn xavi?
You miss my point. That is what a midfielder does, knits the play together, dictates tempo, retains possession.Assisting and scoring are other players jobs.There aren’t different roles that is the role .
In a word yes, Herrera is a better midfielder than Pogba.He has better positional sense , defensive awareness,leadership , football nous.
Someone never watched Roy Keane play football. Maybe he was like that at Celtic or something, but Roy Keane in his prime was a sight to behold, a complete midfielder. Regularly posted 90% passing accuracy and played passes both long and short, whilst playing at pace. He was a force of nature.
Deluded.
There aren’t different roles? I guess you haven’t heard of the term attacking midfielder? And neither have you heard of holding midfielder? Yeah enough indeed. This is basics you should know by now.
My word
nobody ever said he was like Xavi but he controlled games
I would say he was even more energetic workhorse aggressive version of Vidal.
I've seen lots of people with the same misconception to be fair, like Richard Keys
Who would you compare him to?
What you're saying is true, but what he's famous for and what he was good at are two different things. The perfect example of that is the Juve game. He's remembered for the goals but what everyone appreciated at the time was him dictating the midfield with metronomic passing.
Viera is the only one close I could compare him with really.
Please out of curiosity, can you name ten midfiielders better than him?
But why is that even expected? You rightly laud Keane for controlling midfield but he never scored or assisted like this, nor did Xavi.
It's not from me. I'm delighted with all that Pogba gives us. I do take your point though people seem to expect everything of him. He's not a controller and to criticise him for not doing it is unfair.
Pogba quit on Mourinho, however that happened, it happened. Scholes never quit on the team, not saying he wouldn't have, because the team was never in the position it was at times since Pogba is here, but, refusing to play one game isn't in anyway an equivalency.
I'll give him a year or a season if he can perform this good! consistently overall in that time-frame before labeling him that.How generous of you.
He didn't quit on Mourinho. He was one of Mourinho's best players this season. He saved Mourinho at Newcastle. The problem was Mourinho's awful man management and negative football.
Top post.
Thanks for waiting.
I think so too.
He did play a double midfield pivot at WC though. Dictating plays and were very defensive. He can do it all.
