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Quick question: will he be considered as a homegrown player if he joins? Will allow us to offload more of the deadwood if so. As someone mentioned, he will be a great option if Ole wants to play a 433 or 442 to counter-attack very quickly or take advantage of tired legs after 70 minutes or so.
I believe Welsh players are automatically considered homegrown, so yes. Spent all his youth time at Hull and Swansea, so shouldn't be an issue.
 

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What I like about him apart from his insane pace is that if you dither on the ball as a defender he can pinch it off you and away
 

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He is 20, he can still improve massively in terms od goal threat and decision making. For 15m, dont see how anyone can complain. Pace and talent down the wing is always a useful option. He wont be our only attacking signing hopefully.
 

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Probably the best video out there at the moment demonstrating how devastating his pace is. He has Mbappe & prime Bale acceleration and speed

 

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I believe Welsh players are automatically considered homegrown, so yes. Spent all his youth time at Hull and Swansea, so shouldn't be an issue.
Thanks, that's good to hear. I hope we sign him and Godfrey to groom into a top class DM. Both are young and homegrown, with energy and pace. Throw in De Ligt, Dybala, Meunier and Fernandes, and we should have a great young side in our hands.
 

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I'd be so excited if we sign this lad. He's a great talent and has the attributes to be a top class winger. Ridiculously quick, direct and skilful. I've only seen him on the left. Can he play on the right, too?
 

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I think you've mistaken what my original comment was (above) with someone else. Because that list is exactly what I said - taking a chance on promising youth. Or you're just being too sassy for me, Colin.
You mentioned a load of squad players/misses/sold for not much after not realising early promise, proving that taking punts on youth has rarely, if ever, worked out. One of the best ones on your list is Smalling, but everyone (alright not everyone, I still like him) seems to hate him now.
 

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A character reference... From a guy who screws his brothers wife... Honestly I'm not sure that is worth much
So you’d dismiss his opinion on football on the basis that he was having an affair.

Take the moral high ground if you will.
 

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A hardworking left winger, imagine Martials face when they say you will be challenging him for the LW position. In other words feck off Martial you ain't getting in the team son.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Martial is incredibly talented. He does need to improve if he wants to make it here but sometimes sheer hardwork actually doesn't beat natural talent.
 
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Martial is incredibly talented. He does need to improve if he wants to make it here but sometimes sheer hardwork actually doesn't beat natural talent.
It shouldn't. But it should make the talented ones work harder. No point being talented and a Milner type takes your place in the team because he works harder.
 

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Probably the best video out there at the moment demonstrating how devastating his pace is. He has Mbappe & prime Bale acceleration and speed

That pace is ridiculous. He would do well to be a 100m sprinter if he can't make it in football. He's surely faster than Mbappe and prime Bale looking that video
 

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Martial is incredibly talented. He does need to improve if he wants to make it here but sometimes sheer hardwork actually doesn't beat natural talent.
Funny that because all the pros say they’ve seen players 100x more talented than they are but never made it due to work ethic.

Hard work is the foundation of everything.
 

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Martial is incredibly talented. He does need to improve if he wants to make it here but sometimes sheer hardwork actually doesn't beat natural talent.
Hard work improves talent, though.
 

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Funny that because all the pros say they’ve seen players 100x more talented than they are but never made it due to work ethic.

Hard work is the foundation of everything.
Talent is also the foundation of everything. At the top level at least. We shouldn't lose track of the fact that great teams tend to have great players not just work horses.

It shouldn't. But it should make the talented ones work harder. No point being talented and a Milner type takes your place in the team because he works harder.
And I hope it does.
 

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Probably the best video out there at the moment demonstrating how devastating his pace is. He has Mbappe & prime Bale acceleration and speed

I can see why he's apparently been the reason for quite a few yellow and red cards this season. Those fouls at 0:12 and 1:02 particularly ... either you hack him down or he's GONE. Ridiculous pace to say the least. Imagine bringing that guy on with 15-20 minutes left in a game against tired opposition.
 

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I can see why he's apparently been the reason for quite a few yellow and red cards this season. Those fouls at 0:12 and 1:02 particularly ... either you hack him down or he's GONE. Ridiculous pace to say the least. Imagine bringing that guy on with 15-20 minutes left in a game against tired opposition.
He could be a fantastic option to bring on around the hour mark.
 

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No doubt. But to an extent. Young can't improve his talent beyond a point for example. He has his limitations
Totally. Only a handful of players could compensate for talent with hardwork. I can't think of many in the past few years. G nev in his prime, maybe.
 

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Quick question: will he be considered as a homegrown player if he joins? Will allow us to offload more of the deadwood if so. As someone mentioned, he will be a great option if Ole wants to play a 433 or 442 to counter-attack very quickly or take advantage of tired legs after 70 minutes or so.
I don't think he will be considered homegrown because he's coming from swansea.
 

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Talent is also the foundation of everything. At the top level at least. We shouldn't lose track of the fact that great teams tend to have great players not just work horses.


And I hope it does.
It isn’t though. You’re saying that talent is something that isn’t quantifiable, as if it’s a gift you’re born with.

If you spent 1000 hours doing kickups and I spent 10, who do you think would have more talent at kickups?

Do you think it’s fair that people would describe you as talented or would it not be more accurate for people to praise your hard work and sacrifice for spending those hours getting better?

Some people stop when they feel they’re better than most at a certain thing, this is where coaching and pushing a player to develop comes into play, and the work only gets harder at this level. You have to want to do it.
 

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Unreal pace but yet to see a proper vid of his technical skills and passing etc. So will not pass judgement just yet. Hoping he’s not just a pace merchant as that would be another sign that we are not thinking properly when it comes to recruitment. Normally you’d just take anyone United sign and be excited but in recent years - rather just see them in action properly before jizzing.
 

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Him and Rashy will be having a "knock-it-and-run off".

Some of passing in short and cramped areas is quite assured. Noticed that when he makes passes over a certain range, however, he loses his consistency and accuracy. Seems to have some cleverness to him in terms of dribble timing and pass option. He likes to pass and run for the return ball.
 

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Reading the comments above, I think some people might be focusing on the wrong areas of his game.

First off, it'd be great if people stopped comparing him to bloody Giggs and the two Ronaldos. Those are 3 of the most exciting, and effective, players I've ever seen. Then there's Gareth Bale... ok, he's Welsh and quick... can we stop though?

People have automatically jumped to counterattacking and balls over the top, and others are talking about his close control at speed.

This is a £15m 21y/o kid from the Championship. What I'd expect from him is a high work rate, playing at a high tempo. Pressing to win the ball back, and then the ability to keep it. The fact that he can be an out ball on the right (the one we usually find Ashley Young in atm) is great too, and his amazing pace will make him easier to hit. He's exactly the sort of player that can help others around him play their game. Individually he can be dangerous, with that one superpower... but Premier League teams can usually cover that approach. I really hope our fans keep their expectations measured. If they do, we might have a squad player here who makes a real contribution for years to come.
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Agreed. You can do all the tricks and fancy ball rolls in the world, but if you've got the pace of Mata you aren't going passed anybody.

Look at Adama Traore, the guy can hardly play football but he breezes past people for fun. James looks just as quick from the videos?
This is exactly the sort of hungry signing we should be making. This lad will be desperate to prove himself and £15m is relative peanuts in this day and age.

Exciting start to the recruitment.
 

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What’s funny? People must think that Giggs delivery was spot on every time when he was young. He’s 20 years old ffs have a bit of realism
I have no idea who that guy is. Was just laughing at those passes in the YouTube clip. What has his age to do with that? Can't pass a ball when you are 20?
 

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Must say that's the attitude of someone that's not followed United closely enough during Sir Alex's days or has forgotten. It's exactly the kind of punt on promising youth we used to make. We haven't seen all that much of it lately so it's a welcome change if true.
You have no idea how long I followed United to make such a comment. I’m more concerned why we are buying a LW when we have more than enough cover on that wing, It’s the other wing we need a player as we don’t have a RW. However promising James is I’d rather buy someone we actually require. Look how the Dalot signing has turned out and he cost £20m, it will be the same thing, he’s need 2 years before he will even play regularly, we need better first 11 players now.

It’s all well and good buying young players but surely we should be after the Tielemans of this world, young with experience at a high level, in a position we need, who can start straight away. Not some 21 year old, with no Premier League experience in a position we already have Martial and Rashford for that position. So two players that are 22/23 years old next season.
 

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You have no idea how long I followed United to make such a comment. I’m more concerned why we are buying a LW when we have more than enough cover on that wing, It’s the other wing we need a player as we don’t have a RW. However promising James is I’d rather buy someone we actually require. Look how the Dalot signing has turned out and he cost £20m, it will be the same thing, he’s need 2 years before he will even play regularly, we need better first 11 players now.

It’s all well and good buying young players but surely we should be after the Tielemans of this world, young with experience at a high level, in a position we need, who can start straight away. Not some 21 year old, with no Premier League experience in a position we already have Martial and Rashford for that position. So two players that are 22/23 years old next season.
What cover do we have on the LW? Martial is wank and overrated, Sanchez is done and Rashford is a striker we force-fit on the wing.

Our left flank is as wank as our right. The threat from our left flank almost always comes from Shaw and Pogba combining there, with our LW usually adding zero to our play.

I wanted a young LW who could give competition for Martial (who deserves one last chance to prove himself) in addition to a RW. This kid seems he can make Martial nervous and would be a shrewd buy for the price. It also doesn't mean we won't sign a RW.
 
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