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It doesn't matter if Johnson looks weak in interviews. May was just as useless and yet they managed to feed people the whole Strong & Stable crap for a long time. If Johnson gets it he'll be found out come election time when he has to debate on multiple occasions, which is probably why he's uneasy about pledging to call an election if he wins.
I was hoping for an odds-upsetting performance from Stewart, but although he probably did give the best answers I don't think he was striking enough to change the likely result, either of MPs, or members if it came to that.
As it stands then once the Brexit party voters return to the Tories, which most presumably will after Brexit, then we will have another Tory government, and I would have preferred Stewart to the others.
As it stands then once the Brexit party voters return to the Tories, which most presumably will after Brexit, then we will have another Tory government, and I would have preferred Stewart to the others.
I really despair with this country, watching that display by Boris and knowing half the country would probably support him. It would be funny if it wasn't so scary.
Credit to Gove for managing to denounce Corbyn as a Marxist by borrowing a quotation most famously used by Trotsky.
Javid with the best response (the only good response) on the Islamophobia question. Getting them all to agree to an investigation was a good move.
The tories are done. Pack up your bags and FECK RIGHT OFF
Some of the 'British public' questioning the candidates were right stuck up, smarmy gits. Some of them had the manners of chimps. That dude from Oxford who voted for the Brexit party being a prime example.
He was a tool.
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I thought it was embarrassing. Gove might as well have been reading a note written by Murdoch:
Gove said:
Does anyone else dislike the term Islamophobia?
yeah the alt right
Yeah I'd much prefer to just call Islamophobes a bunch of cnuts but it is what it is.
Just to be clear - You (and I) would much prefer to call those who behave in a bigoted/sectarian way towards Muslims a bunch of cnuts.
The problem I have is with the actual word, and how it seems to go beyond the above to include criticism of Islam itself.
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The only people I ever see complaining about being labelled Islamophobic are people who have engaged in Islamophobic behaviour.
That's people who have behaved in a bigoted/sectarian way towards Muslims making the complaint then.
It's weaponised language, designed to prevent any and all criticism of Islam. It should be rejected entirely.
So we've progressed to redefining language to support our opinions now then have we? Excellent.
I think most reasonable people understand what islamaphobia means - i.e discrimination based on someone being Muslim, or for some, looking like you might be Muslim.
That doesn't, and I dont think I've ever seen anyone ever suggest, until now, mean that you can't ever disagree with any element of Islamic teaching without being labelled Islamaphibic, but maybe you'll be able to enlighten me with some specific examples?
Spoiler alert: people (mis)use any kind of adjective to score points.
Given that the term includes the word 'phobia', I'm inclined to agree.
You're going to apply literal interpretation to commonly accepted terms?
You think calling someone homophobic literally means they fear mankind?
Libcafe.
Of an an Islamaphobe? Care to elaborate?
The reality is that the term is applied liberally to anyone critising Islam, essentially becoming a form of blasphemy law.
Maajid Nawaz also recognises this and explains the problem here:
As for specific examples, thoughtfully BobbyManc has provided one for you, condemning me for a post that is entirely fair and true, a post that is no way "islamaphobic" but instead is mearly anti rape gangs.
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@parkthebuslads In your example, you said it prevents criticism of Islam the religion, in the post @BobbyManc quoted, you were criticising the behaviour of some Muslims.
Correct, it prevents critising both islam and muslims, something we should be free to do when it's merited, in this case when speaking about rape gangs.
So you should have been more general, since your original complaint wasn't about criticising Muslims.
Btw, no-one in that thread called you Islamophobic. If you criticise "Muslims", and if you don't like being called Islamophobic, what would you prefer? Racist? Bigoted? What word meets your approval when you equate one group of people with one very negative behaviour?
The simple fact is that such gangs exist and they are typically exclusively comprised of muslims who the victims report to be religiously motivated. Consequentially it is impossible to separate the issue from Islam, hence my use of the descriptor "muslim" when referencing said gang.
In no way is that a commentary of the greater muslim population.
You're going to have to elaborate on this. Religiously motivated rape, with said motivation overt enough that the victims are aware of it?
This poll is probably one of the more compelling arguments against democracy that I've seen.
No, it means they fear "the same" (it comes from Ancient Greek, not Latin).
For no good reason apart from populism it is going to be Boris.
And for no good reason apart from populism it is going to be a no deal exit.
Don't think it is going to turn out well.
Yes the majority voted leave but they didn't vote to be worse off and that is exactly what is going to happen.
And for no good reason apart from populism it is going to be a no deal exit.
Don't think it is going to turn out well.
Yes the majority voted leave but they didn't vote to be worse off and that is exactly what is going to happen.
I'm Irish, we've literally had pedophile rings compromised exclusively of Catholic priests.
Never once have I heard them called Catholic rape gangs.
A phobia is an irrational fear. It's not correct to label an objection to the precepts of islam taking root and flourishing in a particular country as a phobia. On the contrary, it's a wholly rational position to take and not one governed by an irrational fear.
You could substitute the word islam with, say, communism and the exact same applies.
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Seems weirdly pedantic to me but OK, let's just revert to calling them bigots then, would you be happier?
To be fair, Catholic priests molesting kids is a universally understood, widespread stereotype and no one is called Catholicphobe for expressing it.