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We can't complain much about fees unfortunately unless idiotic. Woodward dug this grave with years of misguided comments and now our clear desperation to rebuild. Combine it with city inflating the market and we've to pay what we're told until were in a position where more players want to join us.
I don't think money has been the problem for us. The real issue has been how we have spend the money. If we are planning on spending 140-150 mill on AWB & Maguire, IMO we would be overpaying for average players like we have been for the past few years. We have to act smart considering the number of positions that need filling. Buying two overrated (again strictly IMO) for World Record fees is not what we should be doing.

If it were upto me, I would buy Meunier for 20 Mill, see how Liard and Dalot are developing and then invest the rest of the 140 mill into a WC CB & DM. AWB ain't going anywhere, especially if Palace keeps demanding 60 million for him. Also, I would be much more confident of his abilities if he's able to replicate his performances next season.
 

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Happy about this. Ole should have gotten sacked based on his performance since he got the job. With £100m plus the sale of some of our players, that should be more than enough to test his managerial acumen. Not many teams has a £160m player in their team and a £80m striker. If Pogba and lukaku wants out, that would still give us a warchest bigger than our rivals. Poch at Spurs was given much less to finish fourth and get to the finals of champions league
You're happy that we only have £100 million to spend in this transfer market, knowing we need an overhaul? :houllier:

You have been banging on about Pochettino for ages now and it's getting tiresome.

If you've got to a stage where you're happy to see Ole (and therefore, United) fail to be in with a chance of getting Pochettino, then I think you need to have a re-think.

Not saying Pochettino isn't a good manager (because he obviously is), but whilst Ole is here, surely you'd want him to be able to have the biggest possible budget to re-build this football club?
 
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I don't think money has been the problem for us. The real issue has been how we have spend the money. If we are planning on spending 140-150 mill on AWB & Maguire, IMO we would be overpaying for average players like we have been for the past few years. We have to act smart considering the number of positions that need filling. Buying two overrated (again strictly IMO) for World Record fees is not what we should be doing.

If it were upto me, I would buy Meunier for 20 Mill, see how Liard and Dalot are developing and then invest the rest of the 140 mill into a WC CB & DM. AWB ain't going anywhere, especially if Palace keeps demanding 60 million for him. Also, I would be much more confident of his abilities if he's able to replicate his performances next season.
Exactly. How can we feck so badly ! Just going out of words.
 

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Then you'd look at why two haven't developed the way they should. It's all if's and but's, signing another young RB when we have two at the club just doesn't make sense. What if AWB doesn't develop and we've spent £55m+ on him?
Difference with AWB is while young he's just come off a season where he's been one of the top 3 RB's in the league
 

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It's fascinating to watch all these images that gets added to the ITK tweets to support the fake context they want to spin up.

Pogba wants out = pic of him having a serious convo with Ole from some old match , make sure you freeze frame the right point when it looks like an argument .
Lukaku won't be allowed to leave = pic of him frustrated after not getting the pass he wanted in a match preferably with hand gestures.

Fernandez close to City = pic of him with Bernardo , make sure its off pitch and very happy smiles.

Only 100 mil budget = Ole looking lost from the sidelines , preferably from Cardiff match images.

Where as when it comes to definitive info from the likes of Fabrizio, DiMarzio , Ornstein etc, its just the tweet text or just a dynamic pic of the player from a match with no emphasis on facial expression.
IMO , this itself is enough to filter out the BS.
 
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We have had a british core all this time. also, has AWB ever done anything in the opposition's half? genuinely asking because I don't know his stats, his defensive game is supposedly solid but I hardly hear anything about his attacking prowess. Football has changed, fullbacks need to be able to pose a threat going forward, especially for a counter attacking team...
Maybe because all people seem to associate with attacking ability when it comes to full backs seems to be hugging the line and crossing. Go and watch him a bit and it isn't surprising that he used to be a winger. He's a good dribbler, has a trick in him here and there or a little flick etc

In fact, I've had a quick search for something even easier than saying 'go and watch some games or clips, have a read of the below

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/p...-palace-tactical-analysis-analysis-statistics

If you don't want to read the whole thing, couple of excerpts:

"Along with pace, the England U21 defender has excellent ball control. He is also capable of shifting his marker with feints and dummies, before driving past them to deliver a cross. On average, he engages in 7.27 offensive duels per game, beating his man 56.3% of the time. For comparison, Kyle Walker, Matt Doherty, Ashley Young, and Alexander-Arnold all failed to reach five take-ons per 90."

"Overall, Wan-Bissaka is a huge asset in the final third. His pace, trickery, and close control make him a real threat in one v ones, while his varied crossing is considered and accurate. In the season just gone, he made an average of 2.12crosses per game, compared with Kyle Walker’s 2.09, and Ashley Young’s 3.32. His cross accuracy, 33%, is comfortably higher than both players.

A 33% accuracy might not appear particularly impressive. However, It’s the same number as Alexander-Arnold, and higher than Liverpool’s other fullback, Andrew Robertson"

"His pass accuracy for the season finished at 77%, less than Walker, but more than Young and Alexander-Arnold. Stylistic changes would likely see this number increase were he to move to a bigger club, given the vertical focus of Crystal Palace’s offensive phase"

There's also breakdown with screenshots which show his positioning and decision making.

Also, while everyone compares him to TAA, don't forget that one is part of a title challenging team, containing players like Mane, Salah and Firmino while the other plays for a team that finished 12th and contains attackers such as Andros Townsend, Zaha and Batshuayi.

Sorry for the long post, I won't claim to have watched him a ton but of the times I have watched him, I never thought 'wow, that guy is useless going forward' but someone has said it, it's stuck, it's then just become a 'thing' and so looking even more into it, it seems he has more to offer than I actually thought.

English, 21, seemingly wants to play for the club, he's fast, excellent defensively and if we get top 4 and manage to sign Sancho, could we'll be our right side sorted for almost a decade. I genuinely struggle to see why this is such a divisive signing when we've complained about Ashley Young being our full back for so long. It's a no brainer for me.
 

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The MEN understands United have agreed personal terms with Wan-Bissaka, 21, and the only sticking point is how much they will pay Palace up front. Talks are ongoing between the clubs and Palace are believed to want between £40million and £50m, with attainable add-ons, which would make Wan-BissakaUnited's most expensive defender.
 

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Fairly obvious we don’t have the money. Messing about offering different offers to Palace.


Where did I say we only have 100m? If you think we have as much money to spend as the other big clubs then you are deluded.
Its called negotiating. You dont fecking pay up whatever price the team wants.
We have spend a shitload of cash almost every summer post Fergie, Glazers and Woody are inept but they havent shyed away from pumping cash into transfers. Obviously we cant compete with state owned clubs but are spending is on par with other clubs
 

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The MEN understands United have agreed personal terms with Wan-Bissaka, 21, and the only sticking point is how much they will pay Palace up front. Talks are ongoing between the clubs and Palace are believed to want between £40million and £50m, with attainable add-ons, which would make Wan-BissakaUnited's most expensive defender.
Someone freaking tell Woody that 55 does not come between 40 and 50. Maybe that is why Palace have become confused and are delaying in accepting the bid.
 

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Milan want Ceballos but don´t want to pay the 50m€ that Madrid demand
 

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The MEN understands United have agreed personal terms with Wan-Bissaka, 21, and the only sticking point is how much they will pay Palace up front. Talks are ongoing between the clubs and Palace are believed to want between £40million and £50m, with attainable add-ons, which would make Wan-BissakaUnited's most expensive defender.
This seems like a conversation over the phone which should last about an hour. Not sure why is this being dragged for so long.
 

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Madrid offered 130 + James or Bale. They try to persuade Neymar with a 30m€ salary but his priority is Barça
 

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Makes sense when you have owners who want to sell.
Yeah if we are penny pinching we havent done yet, could it mean the owners are gearing for a potential sale? Or the 6 years in the wilderness is finally affecting our revenue.
Dont reckon we have any cash problems, probably journos making shit up or Utd trying to drive the prices down.
 

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Most of the news content about the likes of Morrison, Balotelli, Barton etc. are all littered with swipes at their attitudes driven by their past reputation rather than their current news itself . Like the tweet above , there is no word of whether they offered him a contract and he rejected or anything relevant of that sort , just saying he's gone for holidays and is likely not to come back .

P.S - I'm not trying to justify their rubbish behavior from the past , but just pointing out how the past reputation precedes everything else.
 

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Perfect. Let’s just gazump Juve’s wages.
The issue is that we've just spent weeks haggling with Palace over the AWB fee, knowing full well that we could have lost out on midfield targets in the meantime. We even appeared to struggle a bit with the Dan James agreement, so I'm just pessimistic about our chances of swiftly narrowing a €30m difference in valuation between us and Lyon while simultaneously fending off serious competition for Ndombele. It just doesn't feel like we have that in us.
 

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Funny how Maguire always seems to cost 60-65m when City are supposedly closing in but 80-90m when we are.
 

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English, 21, seemingly wants to play for the club, he's fast, excellent defensively and if we get top 4 and manage to sign Sancho, could we'll be our right side sorted for almost a decade. I genuinely struggle to see why this is such a divisive signing when we've complained about Ashley Young being our full back for so long. It's a no brainer for me.
I will read the article at a later time, I asked the question because, as stated in the initial post, I'm not familiar with his attacking output, and majority of the posts/analyses of him I've seen focus on his defensive side. I did not ask it because I'm on the fence regarding signing him.
 

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Always find it funny, when united are poised to sign the value becomes 80 or 90 millions but when city is poised the value is 65 million.
Yep, like clockwork. All we've heard all summer is "Leicester won't sell for less than 80M" but as soon as City are linked the price drastically drops. Either the media loves to push crap stories that make United look bad (highly possible - I'm sure they get a lot of clicks) or Leicester dislikes us enough to drive the price up for us but lower it for City (far less likely, although statistically still possible).
 

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Yep, like clockwork. All we've heard all summer is "Leicester won't sell for less than 80M" but as soon as City are linked the price drastically drops. Either the media loves to push crap stories that make United look bad (highly possible - I'm sure they get a lot of clicks) or Leicester dislikes us enough to drive the price up for us but lower it for City (far less likely, although statistically still possible).
I think it is the former. Media have always used our name to get clicks and make us look like chumps. I really miss sir alex times when although we were hardly linked with many but at least these Journalists hesitated using our name. Nowadays we are just linked with every damn player under the sun.
 

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Media stories doing us no favours. Fernandes to us for 80 million, to spurs for 65 million.
Crazy fecks
 

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You're happy that we only have £100 million to spend in this transfer market, knowing we need an overhaul? :houllier:

You have been banging on about Pochettino for ages now and it's getting tiresome.

If you've got to a stage where you're happy to see Ole (and therefore, United) fail to be in with a chance of getting Pochettino, then I think you need to have a re-think.

Not saying Pochettino isn't a good manager (because he obviously is), but whilst Ole is here, surely you'd want him to be able to have the biggest possible budget to re-build this football club?
I don’t want Ole to rebuild United. He looks like a defensive coach and doesn’t have a footballing philosophy that I love to watch. What happens when we give ole £200m and he fail and get sacked? That would set us back even further as now we have players who might not fit into the new manager plan. If Ole can’t get it done with £100m plus perhaps another £100m from players sale than he is not the right man for the job.

Plus, I question the validity of that article. With AWB and James purchase, that is near £100m already. I doubt our spending will stop there.
 

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Happy about this. Ole should have gotten sacked based on his performance since he got the job. With £100m plus the sale of some of our players, that should be more than enough to test his managerial acumen. Not many teams has a £160m player in their team and a £80m striker. If Pogba and lukaku wants out, that would still give us a warchest bigger than our rivals. Poch at Spurs was given much less to finish fourth and get to the finals of champions league
And your favourite poch was given 4 years to do that.
 

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You more you read this nonsense, the more you realise it's all completely made up.

AWB was done at £53M yesterday, today it is as far away as it has ever been and the price has gone up to £60M.

£80/90M Maguire is suddenly £65M when Shitty get involved.
 

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We're so fantastically shit. It's like we're good at being terrible, like its almost impressive.

We're like Peugeot, just fantastically and innovatively awful.

 

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That Neymar Real rumour is probably why swap deals don't happen, clubs only ever offer the crap they can't shift and think it's acceptable. There were people on here saying swap cash and Jones for Diop, what are West Ham going to want with Jones!

Just because you say you will part ex a player that plays in a similar position to the player you are trying to buy does not make it a good deal.
 
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