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And more than one post, too.People can hate more than one country.
And more than one post, too.People can hate more than one country.
Yeah because the dickheadish behaviour of a minority of fans which pretty much everyone condemns definitely means that nobody can complain about a group of professionals acting like kids.All this pearl-clutching by the English over the behavior of the Cameroon ladies is beyond hilarious.
There are no more boorish fans on the planet than the English. There's a reason why everyone hates you. (And, no, it's not jealousy as you lot haven't won anything since the Pleistocene.)
I'm not really seeing how you are having a go at England fans for complaining about the behaviour of the Cameroon players when they elbowed one of our players in face, potentially spat at one of our players, went in with a potential leg breaking tackle at the end and went on strike over two correct called VAR decisions. It was one of the most absurd games I've ever seen.People can hate more than one country.
Ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn't change it. English fans are abhorred for good reason.Yeah because the dickheadish behaviour of a minority of fans which pretty much everyone condemns definitely means that nobody can complain about a group of professionals acting like kids.
Fantastic point, you've nailed it entirely, including the weird xenophobic need to tell everyone how hated the English are whilst supporting an English club. 10/10 well done.
Why have you chosen to support an English football club if you hate England and English fans?Ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn't change it. English fans are abhorred for good reason.
So to hear the English of all people decry others for boorishness is the height of hypocrisy.
You're not a Russian American are you? If so it would be pretty great for you getting on your high horse about England being a loathed country.People can hate more than one country.
I don't give a shit how much English fans are hated. It's utterly irrelevant.Ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn't change it. English fans are abhorred for good reason.
So to hear the English of all people decry others for boorishness is the height of hypocrisy.
I actually think issuing broad generalizations that are lacking in self awareness and context might also be a fantastic fit for the height of hypocrisy, but that’s just me.Ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn't change it. English fans are abhorred for good reason.
So to hear the English of all people decry others for boorishness is the height of hypocrisy.
You'll find similar complaints by any nation or fans when faced with a showing like that. Are you one of these guys who only knows English as a second language and hangs around too much on English forums. Maybe spend some time on the Italian or Spanish forums or listening their fans, or maybe Argentinian?All this pearl-clutching by the English over the behavior of the Cameroon ladies is beyond hilarious.
There are no more boorish fans on the planet than the English. There's a reason why everyone hates you. (And, no, it's not jealousy as you lot haven't won anything since the Pleistocene.)
I'm Mexican.You'll find similar complaints by any nation or fans when faced with a showing like that. Are you one of these guys who only knows English as a second language and hangs around too much on English forums. Maybe spend some time on the Italian or Spanish forums or listening their fans, or maybe Argentinian?
Formula 1 has a bunch of these people with a stick up their arse over England and English like the empire is still going and we owe everyone. Maybe people like you should learn Spanish and watch Spanish coverage and see the bias they show which is 30 times more.
Do you just not like English people or any English sporting national team?Ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn't change it. English fans are abhorred for good reason.
So to hear the English of all people decry others for boorishness is the height of hypocrisy.
We're an English club you dope.Utd does not equal England
Nor do a minority of fans equal the rest of the fanbase, or indeed professional footballers representing a nation on a global stage, yet here we are.Utd does not equal England
Did you like the new Morrissey album?I'm Mexican.
Manchester is in England.Utd does not equal England
I understand that just because someone explicitly writes something doesn't mean what they actually say reflects it, or do you believe everyone who starts with 'i'm not racist, but...' to be wholly without prejudice?Unlike the inaptly dubbed Fanatic, you seem to confuse the descriptive with the normative. You get an explanation of things factoring into the situation you don’t understand, but you are too hung up on the moral question (‘do you condemn this or not?’). He explicitly wrote that it was no excuse and that the calls were correct, and you clearly don’t understand the historical context. You confuse understanding with condoning.
Thanks, I think you understood me perfectly.Possibly. A history of injustices combined with emotion has a tendency to overcloud such things, for most human beings. I think most educated people know this occurs.
Unlike the inaptly dubbed Fanatic, you seem to confuse the descriptive with the normative. You get an explanation of things factoring into the situation you don’t understand, but you are too hung up on the moral question (‘do you condemn this or not?’). He explicitly wrote that it was no excuse and that the calls were correct, and you clearly don’t understand the historical context. You confuse understanding with condoning.
You are hard of understanding how humans work, and hard of reading. It’s not an excuse, he wrote. Oh, and I doubt that you are the real Djemba-Djemba.
Too true, but more subdued.
So by your genius logic, I can't support an athlete(s) if I harbor ill feelings toward their respective countries.We're an English club you dope.
Also in this case most of the England fans who are there are women.Manchester is in England.
You don't have to support England to support Manchester United, obviously. But if you have such a dislike for the English people that you feel the need to tell them how hated they are at any opportunity, I really don't see why you'd bother to support a club based there.
All you're doing is making sweeping generalisations that had no place whatsoever in this thread, because the behaviour of the cameroon team has nothing whatsoever to do with the behaviour of some English fans.
I think that's unfair tbh. Yes England have a stupid minority and major issues. But saying a decent upstanding England supporter can't criticize abhorrent behavior because of what some people he'll never know have done or how some people he'll never meet behave is unfair and a massive generalization.Ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn't change it. English fans are abhorred for good reason.
So to hear the English of all people decry others for boorishness is the height of hypocrisy.
You're not supporting an athlete.So by your genius logic, I can't support an athlete(s) if I harbor ill feelings toward their respective countries.
That means I shouldn't have supported the great Cuban boxer Teofilo Stevenson because of Castro? Or any of the great Argentinean teams of years past because of Peron's repressive regime?
You're certainly one to be criticizing others' intelligence.
Argument conceded. One can't compete with the laughing emoji.You're not supporting an athlete.
You're supporting a club, a team.
From England.
Do you sit there watching Utd games on TV , and every time it cuts to the crowd at Old Trafford you boo and proclaim loudly how much you hate England and the English?
Even completely ignoring the whole 'i despise England and its people but support an English club' thing, his whole idea is barmy.You're not supporting an athlete.
You're supporting a club, a team.
From England.
Do you sit there watching Utd games on TV , and every time it cuts to the crowd at Old Trafford you boo and proclaim loudly how much you hate England and the English?
Well there's no point arguing with you anyway.Argument conceded. One can't compete with the laughing emoji.
It's one of the stupidest posts I've ever read on here.Even completely ignoring the whole 'i despise England and its people but support an English club' thing, his whole idea is barmy.
You can't criticise any bad behaviour ever because you're English and some English fans are bad. It's fecking absurd.
But your hatred for England isn't because of regime , it's because if football fans which makes it relevantSo by your genius logic, I can't support an athlete(s) if I harbor ill feelings toward their respective countries.
That means I shouldn't have supported the great Cuban boxer Teofilo Stevenson because of Castro? Or any of the great Argentinean teams of years past because of Peron's repressive regime?
You're certainly one to be criticizing others' intelligence.
Can you do us a favour and hang around the Spanish forums and see the animosity or do you just target England? You're pretty quick to call out England fans for some reason which has nothing to do with the Cameroon players conduct over the English players conduct. You couldn't wait to have a dig for some reason?I'm Mexican.
Amazing when there should have been two red cards and infinite yellow ones just for their behaviour.Only two bookings in that game
Good lord!Ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn't change it. English fans are abhorred for good reason.
So to hear the English of all people decry others for boorishness is the height of hypocrisy.