[Ballist1x]

Rooney was amazing for years. From his debut to winning the champions league.

Okay towards the very end he was a bit unfit, carrying niflgglimv injuries etc but I believd he gave everything he could do.

 

[-Supreme-]

He has the potential to become £100m + player over the next 2 years, I'd give him plenty of chances this season especially the expectations of winning a major silverware is relatively low

 

[Rozay]

Will certainly be a number 9 in time. I suspect he’ll have a 20 goal season by 20 years old. From watching him as a 16 year old in the academy there was a clear polished ness to his game. He’s like nothing I’ve seen at United for many, many years - and probably the best teenage striker in the world I reckon.

It was clear that he wasn’t a ‘needs to develop his game’ young player in the academy. More a case of ‘once he gets comfortable at senior football’. But his game is already massively complete. He will of course still get better, but his talent is very rare.

He’s no winger though. He has skill and wing attributes, but they are, for me, not so extreme as his qualities that make him suited to the centre forward role. They are more supplementary, and a bonus that he can beat men - but his outstanding qualities are not searing pace and dribbling. As a centre forward though, he has everything.

If we can add Sancho next summer I think we’d finally have the pairing to take us back to where Rooney and Ronaldo put us in the coming years. Hopefully, Pogba is still around for that.

 

[Shakesy]

There is also a 17 year old Greenwood coming through the ranks at Arsenal! Sam Greenwood.

And he is also being compared to RVP!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ho-sam-greenwood-arsenal-forward-16540756.amp

Weird.

 

[DownRiver]

I don't want him to play in the wing, it took away the prime years of RVP and Henry's time in the ST position. It's too easy to say he is young and needs to learn to play in the wing position first, that didn't work out for Martial.

 

[Rozay]

I don't want him to play in the wing, it took away the prime years of RVP and Henry's time in the ST position. It's too easy to say he is young and needs to learn to play in the wing position first, that didn't work out for Martial.

Centre halves are often brutal which I think is a large part of why young forwards often do their apprenticeship out wide. Also, in a one-striker system, teams may not want to place the main goalscoring burden on them yet.

 

[passing-wind]

He will push Rashford out a number 9 position. Rashford has too many blemishes as a striker, he's tendencies are more suited to wing play.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

There is also a 17 year old Greenwood coming through the ranks at Arsenal! Sam Greenwood.

And he is also being compared to RVP!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ho-sam-greenwood-arsenal-forward-16540756.amp

Weird.

it's only fair, after all van Persie translates to "of the green woods".

 

[Classical Mechanic]

There is also a 17 year old Greenwood coming through the ranks at Arsenal! Sam Greenwood.

And he is also being compared to RVP!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ho-sam-greenwood-arsenal-forward-16540756.amp

Weird.

Sam Greenwood is good no question but I think Mason moves better than him. He's more lean and 360 degrees.

 

[Tomuś]

That attempt off the crossbar reminds me so much of RVP.

As does the goal tbf.

 

[Rozay]

That attempt off the crossbar reminds me so much of RVP.

Almost identical to his Old Trafford debut goal against Fulham.

 

[Harold_Giles]

This young lad is a big reason why I'm getting really excited about the coming season.
If he's able to stay free from injuries we'll have a world class striker in a couple of years. Homegrown to boot.
I'm sure of it

 

[Jeppers7]

Rooney was definitely the better player when he joined the club. We weren't even sure Ronaldo was going to make it in his first couple of seasons, while Rooney was looking like he could become one of the best in the world.

Ronaldo made a fool of Rooney before we signed him. He ended up lashing out. Saf was sure, whether some fans were is irrelevant. Technically Rooney was always overrated in this country despite being an unbelievably good player, he wasn’t Pele.

Ronaldo was always better than Rooney in terms of ability.

On Greenwood he looks a real talent. I like the Giggs comparison, not in terms of style of play but what he could ultimately become for us.

 

[haram]

I don't want him to play in the wing, it took away the prime years of RVP and Henry's time in the ST position. It's too easy to say he is young and needs to learn to play in the wing position first, that didn't work out for Martial.

You can argue that it helped RVP's and Henry's development though.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Wow.

He just proved his worth against somewhat proper opposition. He's ready.

Bye bye Jesse.

Music to my ears

 

[Seven Seas Sardines]

Music to my ears

Unfortunately Ole praised Lingard for ball retention and pressing in the post presser. Don't get your dong out just yet.

 

[Chillosophy]

17? Wow.

 

[kirk buttercup]

Unfortunately Ole praised Lingard for ball retention and pressing in the post presser. Don't get your dong out just yet.

Lingard was pretty good in fairness . He's a gobshite but he is not a bad footballer

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Unfortunately Ole praised Lingard for ball retention and pressing in the post presser. Don't get your dong out just yet.

Deservedly too. He had a good game. Mason however is making a claim to start against Chelsea.

 

[Seven Seas Sardines]

Lingard was pretty good in fairness . He's a gobshite but he is not a bad footballer

Agree to disagree, buttercup.

 

[VJ1762]

Mason is what people think Rashford is. Brilliant goal.
He has arrived.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Will certainly be a number 9 in time. I suspect he’ll have a 20 goal season by 20 years old. From watching him as a 16 year old in the academy there was a clear polished ness to his game. He’s like nothing I’ve seen at United for many, many years - and probably the best teenage striker in the world I reckon.

It was clear that he wasn’t a ‘needs to develop his game’ young player in the academy. More a case of ‘once he gets comfortable at senior football’. But his game is already massively complete. He will of course still get better, but his talent is very rare.

He’s no winger though. He has skill and wing attributes, but they are, for me, not so extreme as his qualities that make him suited to the centre forward role. They are more supplementary, and a bonus that he can beat men - but his outstanding qualities are not searing pace and dribbling. As a centre forward though, he has everything.

If we can add Sancho next summer I think we’d finally have the pairing to take us back to where Rooney and Ronaldo put us in the coming years. Hopefully, Pogba is still around for that.

Agreed. Greenwood sancho and either Rashford/martial, let them fight it out. What a sexy team. Gomes Behind them with Chong rotating sort the midfield and we are ready boys

 

[Rozay]

Agreed. Greenwood sancho and either Rashford/martial, let them fight it out. What a sexy team. Gomes Behind them with Chong rotating sort the midfield and we are ready boys

Looks like we are about to extend De Gea, otherwise I’d have said that with Henderson too, in addition to AWB - we could well have a very good chunk of the England squad again.

I must admit that it always bothers me that we as a team have had quite a decent English presence in recent years, yet most of ours aren’t even good enough to get into the England squad.

 

[Woodzy]

Ronaldo made a fool of Rooney before we signed him. He ended up lashing out. Saf was sure, whether some fans were is irrelevant. Technically Rooney was always overrated in this country despite being an unbelievably good player, he wasn’t Pele.

Ronaldo was always better than Rooney in terms of ability.

On Greenwood he looks a real talent. I like the Giggs comparison, not in terms of style of play but what he could ultimately become for us.

If you are referring to the incident at the 2006 World Cup then both players were at the club already...

 

[Dion]

Ronaldo made a fool of Rooney before we signed him. He ended up lashing out. Saf was sure, whether some fans were is irrelevant. Technically Rooney was always overrated in this country despite being an unbelievably good player, he wasn’t Pele.

Ronaldo was always better than Rooney in terms of ability.

On Greenwood he looks a real talent. I like the Giggs comparison, not in terms of style of play but what he could ultimately become for us.

You're thinking of the wrong international tournament.

 

[Carl S Bridge]

This kid is going to be a super star. Maybe ten years ago behind rooney, Ronaldo, tevez and berbatov he might find playing time limited but surely not now. He is our shining light. What our academy is built for

 

[Jeppers7]

If you are referring to the incident at the 2006 World Cup then both players were at the club already...

You're thinking of the wrong international tournament.

United vs Everton Old Trafford 03/04. Abused him to the point he couldn’t get near him so in the end hacked him down.

 

[Pierluigi Casiraghi]

United vs Everton Old Trafford 03/04. Abused him to the point he couldn’t get near him so in the end hacked him down.

Ronaldo also got nutmegged by some Exeter player around that time. Neither are defenders so that's not relevant.

 

[roonster09]

United vs Everton Old Trafford 03/04. Abused him to the point he couldn’t get near him so in the end hacked him down.

Yeah and shit loads of players abused Ronaldo

 

[Jeppers7]

Ronaldo also got nutmegged by some Exeter player around that time. Neither are defenders so that's not relevant.

Yeah and shit loads of players abused Ronaldo

Yeah that's the same as running rings around someone during a game where both players could put in a performance for their teams. Ronaldo ran the game. Rooney didn't like it but could do nothing about it. So lashed out. It was great to be there for that game. Ronaldo showed who had more ability for sure. It wasn't close.

John O'Shea megged figo. Doesn't mean he ran rings around him.

 

[roonster09]

Yeah that's the same as running rings around someone during a game where both players could put in a performance for their teams. Ronaldo ran the game. Rooney didn't like it but could do nothing about it. So lashed out. It was great to be there for that game. Ronaldo showed who had more ability for sure. It wasn't close.

John O'Shea megged figo. Doesn't mean he ran rings around him.

And you are using one incident to prove Ronaldo ran rings around Rooney.

Comparing attackers for their defensive performance, one was playing for superior team and other for average to poor team.

 

[Jeppers7]

And you are using one incident to prove Ronaldo ran rings around Rooney.

Comparing attackers for their defensive performance, one was playing for superior team and other for average to poor team.

I'm using a game, not an incident, where they were on opposing teams yes....I'd also use a lot of Ronaldos best performances even in his first season as evidence. Rooney might have had more of a mature head for team play but Ronaldos talent was far greater.

Your user name literally says you'll never agree, but that's fine you're entitled to your opinion...mine is proven to be correct anyway regardless of what people felt in the early days. Ronaldos talent was on another level.

 

[Pierluigi Casiraghi]

I'm using a game, not an incident, where they were on opposing teams yes....I'd also use a lot of Ronaldos best performances even in his first season as evidence. Rooney might have had more of a mature head for team play but Ronaldos talent was far greater.

Your user name literally says you'll never agree, but that's fine you're entitled to your opinion...mine is proven to be correct anyway regardless of what people felt in the early days. Ronaldos talent was on another level.

Using one game is not much better than using one incident.

EDIT: could someone who isn't a newbie make a Rooney vs Ronaldo As Teenagers thread?

 

[roonster09]

I'm using a game, not an incident, where they were on opposing teams yes....I'd also use a lot of Ronaldos best performances even in his first season as evidence. Rooney might have had more of a mature head for team play but Ronaldos talent was far greater.

Your user name literally says you'll never agree, but that's fine you're entitled to your opinion...mine is proven to be correct anyway regardless of what people felt in the early days. Ronaldos talent was on another level.

 

[roonster09]

Using one game is not much better than using one incident.

Especially one was playing for defending league champions and other played for a team that finishes in 17th position in 2003-04 season.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I'm using a game, not an incident, where they were on opposing teams yes....I'd also use a lot of Ronaldos best performances even in his first season as evidence. Rooney might have had more of a mature head for team play but Ronaldos talent was far greater.

Your user name literally says you'll never agree, but that's fine you're entitled to your opinion...mine is proven to be correct anyway regardless of what people felt in the early days. Ronaldos talent was on another level.

Rooney was the superior footballer when they were younger regardless of who had more natural ability or developed better. He was more complete, he was more intelligent, he was more mature and he was more definitive.

 

[SecondFig]

Rooney was the superior footballer when they were younger regardless of who had more natural ability or developed better. He was more complete, he was more intelligent, he was more mature and he was more definitive.

Yes in that Rooney was a near complete player from around 18 (and arguably didn't progress much after that) whereas Ronnie took years to reach his peak. And while it's true that it was easy to see Ronaldo had huge potential, I don't think anyone who watched his debut season for us would have predicted his transformation into a line leading no 9. We were all expecting a pacy, flashy, winger (which he was of course).

 

[Bondi77]

A joy to watch.
I loved it when he skinned Skrinniar, I swear I could see steam coming out of his ears

 

[::sonny::]

Lukaku who?

 

[::sonny::]

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