No I agree, you don't have it as a tactic like City do, it's just a reactionary response from loads of your players when things don't go their way. Nasty bunch.
Are Spurs the dirtiest club in the league?
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What whataboutery is seriously strong with Spurs fans, especially on social media.
I've said that I dont believe they go out to hurt people . I agree that it shouldnt happen in friendlies though - hard tackles in friendlies are just ridiculous.
I'm not disagreeing that we are probably the one team in the league that actively professionally foul and use 'the dark arts' as others have said - whether that makes us dirty is a matter of opinion - I can agree with all that. What I disagree with is people suggesting our team is TRYING to injure players - I just don't believe that, nor would I believe that any professional footballer would deliberately go out to seriously injure another player (Yes I know Roy Keane did but he was a bit of a one off).
What some players do in the heat of the moment during a game is different from going into a match with the intention of causing injury to another player. There is a distinction there and an important one.
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You’re very loyal.
To be fair it didn’t bother me massively when Keane, Cantona and Ince engaged in shenanigans (even though their red cards really didn’t help us) but I don’t remember too much nastiness in friendlies excepting one bad one against Glasgow Rangers
Well exactly - your team at its best over the last couple of decades took no prisoners in tackles and were very physical all over the pitch. Look at Scholes tackles! Anyway - on todays game (I didnt watch it) from what I hear one of the worst tackles in the match was one of your players on Harry Kane - so let's not pretend these things don't happen. I'd have been pretty disgusted though if any player got injured today due to a heavy tackle.You’re very loyal.
To be fair it didn’t bother me massively when Keane, Cantona and Ince engaged in shenanigans (even though their red cards really didn’t help us) but I don’t remember too much nastiness in friendlies excepting one against Glasgow Rangers that had to be abandoned
Last season Spurs were the 8th least dirty club in the league according to fair play rankings.
Manchester United? Second dirtiest, only pipped to the post by Watford.
Manchester United? Second dirtiest, only pipped to the post by Watford.
Sissokho stood on James' hand today, it was clearly intentional, put force into that pushing leg, it's the same shit every year with your players. Heat of the moment happens every now and then, sure, but your players are notorious for this kind of shit. And it's always the same fecking wankers, your Dires, Shitallis, Sissokhos, Roses and Vertonghens. Dembele and Walker are no longer with you but they were collosal wankers too.
Yeah but that's ok because it's us init.
This thread is about sticking it into Spurs, join in.You dont win anything with choir boys.
...ok Tottenham don't win anything anyway..but
...ok Tottenham don't win anything anyway..but
Oh right ok. Spurs, dirty gits - trying to injure our players who wouldn't dream of tackling anybody in case they ripped an opposing players sock.Yeah but that's ok because it's us init.
Well no, but the thing is they haven't so it's a bit of a moot point.
Laughed.
Thought you'd become the wealdstone raider for a second
"You're playing sht and you're a bunch of wankers with no fansh"
Fair play rankings are about yellow and red cards. It says nothing about what those cards are for or the dirty shit that the ref misses or gets wrong.
And why would we consistently be getting away with red cards/yellow cards whereas other clubs aren't?
Unless you genuinely believe there's some sort of conspiracy in favour of Spurs, it makes no sense. We play rough/physical but other teams make just as many if not more terrible tackles, hence why they get more yellow and red cards.
Well said. I'd say on the league table of players getting away with dirty play the ref's missed looks like this:
1. Fernandinho
2. Alli
3. Aguero
4-25. Rest of the Spurs squad minus Son and Eriksen.
26. Rojo
A lot of the complaints about Spurs stems from foul play going unpunished, so that wouldn't be reflected in a fair play table.
Don't worry Mauricio, you'll be in Madrid by February or March. All is not lost.
I generally disagree with that statement. We have a couple of players who make the odd stupid tackle (alli the biggest offender) but the majority of our squad isn't dirty. We're physical and press hard, but that's not being dirty.
United as a club for the last few seasons have consistently been in the bottom halves of fair play tables. You don't get there without having a team which has a bit of an edge to it, and over the last few years you've had plenty of cnuts in the side. Herrera was a fan favourite, was he not?
I don't remember Herrera stamping someone tbf, or any of our lads. Didn't expect Spurs to be so vicious today.
We definitely have and have had some dirty players of our own, Herrera you mentioned and Young likes to put it about also. I do think with the fair play tables though our poor showing is more down to the general shitness of our tackling, we get loads of bookings and give away free kicks not through being particularly nasty but by being too slow, mistiming challenges and just general clumsiness.
Poch has come out and said he is sorry for the way his players acted this evening. He’s a classy guy and I respect that so much. His players could learn a lot from him.
That's how you're justifying it?
Petulance and generally cnutish behaviour is perfectly acceptable as no one has gotten seriously injured as a result?
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Great post. How can the poster you replied to say it can be a bit frustrating for a team that gets bullied by spurs? That is hilarious and should be highlighted on this particular thread. What a tool. If you think what Sissoko did to James is bullying then you’re clearly deluded in my eyes. The guy should have been sent off and banned for 3 games. Utter shambles of a player. I don’t call stamping on someone bullying. Also, it’s nice to see opposition pay some respect to James. He’s quicker than anyone he comes up against. Out of all football traits, being quick is very very lethal. With improvement that lad can go to the top. Of course Walcott is quick but I feel this guy already has a bit more about him than Theo. He doesn’t seem just a speed merchant.
Nothing wrong with playing tough but some of the tackles have been shocking under him, not sure why players would consistently make those nasty tackles without managers approval.
I should clarify that I don't necessarily agree Spurs are the dirtiest side in the league but there's definitely a petulant side to this Spurs team when things don't go their way. Alli is the worst offender but he isn't the only one, Dan James got kicked around for most of the first half today and there's no excuse for what Sissoko did to him.
Herrera's popularity among United fans was far more to do with the tenacity and consistency he showed than any niggly fouls he committed, and those he did make were nearly always punished. United aren't squeaky clean, we commit our fair share of fouls just like any other team but I don't think there are many as snide as Spurs in the way they do it.
I genuinely don’t think Poch has any intention of asking his players to kick the opposition. You have a few loose screws in that team, Sissoko obviously proved he is one of them but so does Dele Alli
I think this is true. We've had a few games where we've lost a grip of the game and got silly out of frustration. Generally speaking I don't think we're that dirty, it's just the odd time we tend to boil over. But overall do I think we're particularly 'snide' most of the time? Not really. I think if that was the case we'd have more yellow/red cards.
Alli is undoubtedly a dirty player, and I don't blame opposition fans for disliking him.
Bottlers.In a friendly game
Shame we had to play Thugspur pre-season
You know you have been dirty when your manager has to apologize for your tackling
Sissoko should of been sent off.
Yes?
I genuinely don't know what you're expecting me to say here? I have no problem with it.
At least Poch knows it's not ok. He should be ashamed at the behaviour during the friendly.
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Burnley are probably dirtier but in a more straight up and in your face way.
Spurs have a few players like Alli and Vertonghen who are dirty in a sly and cowardly way and both play act on the other side of things then too.
Spurs have a few players like Alli and Vertonghen who are dirty in a sly and cowardly way and both play act on the other side of things then too.
Burnley are harder - there's a difference.
There's nothing hard about Spurs. Just dirty.
Yeah he should take up some kind of coaching role at the club.