Get rid of VAR NOW! We want our game back! (...or not, some are happy)

VAR - Love or Hate?


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VP89

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The goal most people are complaining about is the one that was disallowed.
I'm finding them complain about everything regardless to be honest. This "magic is gone" is a pile of bullshit. They still celebrate, it's still tense and it takes away any injustice.

The "we want our game back" title is also a very cringeworthy angle. Reminds me of Brexiteers and Trump style vague arguments of "we want our country back!" :lol:
 

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People wanting it gone until a big decision goes against us then they will want it back again.
To be fair to the critics, I don't think they are as fickle as that, as evidenced by them simultaneously wanting a city goal to stand (Jesus), and not (Aguero).

They are pretty consistent in opposition to this, however ridiculous their complaints are.

They should try thumb sucking as a remedy, because technology won't go away.
 

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It really wont. See City vs Tottenham in the quarter finals last year.
You see the entertainment value in taking a historical goal away (with no advantage gained). I think the historical goal is actually better for the sport long term than machines taking them away.
 

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It really wont. See City vs Tottenham in the quarter finals last year.
That was a disgrace. It took all enjoyment out of City going out.

Instead of unreal drama, we got a fecking VAR technicality.

That's not football
 

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I'm finding them complain about everything regardless to be honest. This "magic is gone" is a pile of bullshit. They still celebrate, it's still tense and it takes away any injustice.
That's the thing that makes me laugh the most. We're watching multi millionaires, (many of them probably on juice), play a game that has lost its soul for money for a long time and now some of us wanna complain about magic being gone.
 

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Still hate VAR.

And always will. Looking forward to the start of the season a bit less now that I've been reminded it's going to be used.
 

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Nah again, this is bullshit. Just look at City vs Spurs in the CL last year. Couldnt have possibly had more drama, and VAR played a big role in that.
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All of you fecking grandpas will be fine. Get with the times. Technology helping get the correct decisions.
Grandpa?!! Feck off you little shit !!!!!! :lol:
 

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You see the entertainment value in taking a historical goal away (with no advantage gained). I think the historical goal is actually better for the sport long term than machines taking them away.
You think it wouldve been better for the sport for City to go through on the basis of a wrong refereeing decision rather than Spurs reaching those stages for the first time ever? Okay, you've said all that you needed to about yourself right there. fecks sake :lol:
 

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I’d love to know the average age of those people supporting VAR against those opposing it...

Lots of people saying it’s technology taking the joy out of the game. The same people who sit on an online forum, typing away and reading drivel, whilst watching a football match, probably missing some key moments when their heads are buried in their phones.
 

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To be fair to the critics, I don't think they are as fickle as that, as evidenced by them simultaneously wanting a city goal to stand (Jesus), and not (Aguero).

They are pretty consistent in opposition to this, however ridiculous their complaints are.

They should try thumb sucking as a remedy, because technology won't go away.
They were marginal decisions, but they were right. I thought it added to the atmosphere as City had killed it dead.
 

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That was a disgrace. It took all enjoyment out of City going out.

Instead of unreal drama, we got a fecking VAR technicality.

That's not football
What the feck do you mean, if not for VAR right there, City would have gone through to the semi finals on the back of an incorrect decision. Instead, Spurs went through for their first time ever.
 

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That's the thing that makes me laugh the most. We're watching multi millionaires, (many of them probably on juice), play a game that has lost its soul for money for a long time and now some of us wanna complain about magic being gone.
If you don't mind me asking, if the magic is long gone then why do you still bother watching? Let alone posting about it 74,000 times.
 

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Other than taking celebrations away I think its great
Thing is the emotion from scoring a goal is still there. It's cautious celebration but the initial jubilation of putting the ball in the net is evident. I'd take marginally subdued celebrations over wrongly given goals any day of the week.
 

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It really wont. See City vs Tottenham in the quarter finals last year.
You keep citing that one game which was an extraordinary game and with lots on the line . I have seen lots of games in the last 2 years where the entertainment has been significantly reduced because of VAR. I am not against Var but it is a hard sell because the beauty of football is in the pace of the game . My favourite sport is American football which has had reviews for years but people in general hate the sport because it has too many breaks and now football is going that way
 

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Lots of people saying it’s technology taking the joy out of the game. The same people who sit on an online forum, typing away and reading drivel, whilst watching a football match, probably missing some key moments when their heads are buried in their phones.
That's literally what you are doing right now.

Thought it was worth mentioning.
 

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If you don't mind me asking, if the magic is long gone then why do you still bother watching? Let alone posting about it 74,000 times.
It's a drug for me, I'm literally an addict at this point. If I wanna feel the magic of football, I go outside and play it with my mates, amateur football is where it's at for me when it comes to truly enjoying it for what it is. Regarding my post count, nice try....
 

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In the end any form of Var will get most decisions right but will significantly reduce the entertainment value of the sport
I don't get this argument. City vs Spurs in the CL, was that not entertaining? City's late winning goal being disallowed and seeing the faces of the City players and Pep in total disbelief, that was funny as hell.
 

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In the City game VAR got it right. Oddly enough, when I watched I thought the goal that got called back was onside while the one that counted was offside. VAR proved that I was wrong on both and the correct calls were made. The only problem I have is with the offside rule itself. I think there should be clear daylight between the attacked and defender for it to be offside. This way we would be saying "he was onside by a toe" rather than "he was offside by a toe". The only thing I don't like about VAR (so far) is that it interupts the game and puts a delay on celebrations. But in the big game where our opponent scores a goal that shouldn't have counted VAR will now make sure it doesn't count...
 

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It's a drug for me, I'm literally an addict at this point. If I wanna feel the magic of football, I go outside and play it with my mates, amateur football is where it's at for me when it comes to truly enjoying it for what it is.
Interesting answer! What do you get from watching United then?

edit: and I don't want any facetious remarks about our amateurism from anyone!
 

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Thing is the emotion from scoring a goal is still there. It's cautious celebration but the initial jubilation of putting the ball in the net is evident. I'd take marginally subdued celebrations over wrongly given goals any day of the week.
This is why we’re on a dangerous path with this. Happy to water down the emotion. My god.
 

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The encroachment rule has been there for years. Rice was there to clear the ball he was that far in the box. About time it was punished and as people have said goalkeepers being well off their line before a penalty is even kicked.
 

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:lol: clowns complaining, blaming VAR for enforcing rules written by those who are really in charge. Love it. VAR as system is a baby, never mind progression of technology in the future but wanting to scrap a system in its earliest stage of development, pure gold.

We have hundred of years of referee development, them adapting how many years to todays pace of the game but lets shit on VAR and feck it off after few years, makes sense.

Moan at offside rule written on the paper, not at system showing precision of that same rule.
 

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That's literally what you are doing right now.

Thought it was worth mentioning.
Aha I would say touché, however, when I wrote that no match was currently being played. And I’m not complaining about the technology ruining the game so I’m in no way being hypocritical.
 

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Technology is here to stay , football will never go back to no VAR but we can still complain about it in a free world
 

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The encroachment rule has been there for years. Rice was there to clear the ball he was that far in the box. About time it was punished and as people have said goalkeepers being well off their line before a penalty is even kicked.
We basically had a rule/law that nobody gave a feck to stick to, dont remember last time when ref made a retake penalty call.
 

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I would be ok if football came together, looked at marginally offside decisions and came to a conclusion regarding what tolerance should be used for VARs determining offside. I think 1 cm is ok.
Ok so everyone decides there’s a tolerance of 1cm. How are you going to work out where the tolerance level ends and the non tolerance level (2cm) starts? You’re back to square one. VAR would then be in an even more subjective state of deciding things, which will still have to take place. The alternative (and far more logical and simple) is to call all offsides offside. If it’s ridiculously close, so be it.
 

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Doubt it’s the grandpas. I’ve had about 12 friends just text me how shitty this is. All under 35.
Get better friends, nobody should receive 12 texts about VAR on a summer afternoon :(
 

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The encroachment rule has been there for years. Rice was there to clear the ball he was that far in the box. About time it was punished and as people have said goalkeepers being well off their line before a penalty is even kicked.
Agreed. That was a breath of fresh air. I'm sick of players encroaching and keepers jumping 5 yards off the line.
 

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VAR is the best thing ever introduced in football. What are you talking about? Game is finally fair. Sure, sometimes it is annoying, sometimes it kills mood but it is fair.
People now have problems because it was "only 5 cm offside"? Well it is offside, isn't it? 5 cm or 5m, it is offside.