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Not if it rules out goals like the one today I wont.We've had instant replay in all of our sports here in the States for years. You lot just need to get used to/better at it. In several years, you'll come to love VAR.
Not if it rules out goals like the one today I wont.We've had instant replay in all of our sports here in the States for years. You lot just need to get used to/better at it. In several years, you'll come to love VAR.
VAR didnt rule out goals today, written offside rule did.Not if it rules out goals like the one today I wont.
Make it clear and obvious for all decisions as it was originally introduced to be.It is supposedly the best technology around, so we are going to have to take their word for it. If you allow for margin of error then where does it stop.
No that would have never have been offside live.VAR didnt rule out goals today, written offside rule did.
Pfft. The Man's not gonna tell me when I can celebrate a goal! The machines are taking over, sheeple!! Just like in The Matrix!!! And when Breville stopped my mum from making toasties!!!!You cant even have a discussion, some of them behaving like they just came out of their caves. Some of them dont even understand to rules, like arguing that 2nd pen attempt should also be retaken
I mean you are basically just coming up with your own definition of offside.Your extension doesn't make any sense. I'll try this again.
The offside rule was introduced to prevent the clear advantage caused by an attacker 'goal hanging'. That advantage is not gained when an attacker is 0.1 mm ahead. When is that advantage gained? It wouldn't hurt for there to be consensus on when a significant advantage is gained, and have the VAR use that point as the trigger for determining offside.
You saying "there will always be ambiguity so let's set the point at zero" makes no sense.
That was one person.You cant even have a discussion, some of them behaving like they just came out of their caves. Some of them dont even understand to rules, like arguing that 2nd pen attempt should also be retaken
Oh it works in sports with hundreds of stoppages so let’s put it into one with very few. Good logic.Yeah, it's like anything new. We just need time to adjust.
I guess teams will just have to go back to scoring goals that aren’t marginally offside then!It’s actually always been part of the game. So have the ecstatic celebrations that came with them.
It’s less subjective now, at least they can measure the position of the attackers body in alignment with other players and so on. By adding some margin or degree of tolerance it would just cause even more debate and uncertainty.It couldn't possibly add subjectivity. The worst it can be accused of is not resolving an existing subjectivity. If there's no change in regards to close calls what's with all the outrage?
Because the referee wouldnt spot it. With VAR, they get a clear look at it to apply the rules how they see fit. So yeah. The only thing VAR does is enables referees to see tough calls clearly.No that would have never have been offside live.
Yes because VAR's literal implementation of the rule makes little sense in a football context. So yes, a discussion needs to occur around the actual rule or VAR's implementation of the rule.I mean you are basically just coming up with your own definition of offside.
The rules are what they are. It’s not VAR’s fault for... enforcing the rules. You obviously take issue with the current rule itself, which is fine, but that’s a whole other topic.
Far too incompetent? Weren’t they judged to be getting 90% or more of the decisions correct? Without stopping game flow...With the amount of money in the game it's perfectly reasonable to ensure the results are correct. It could make a massive difference to clubs' fortunes. Plus the refs/ linesmen/women are far too unreliable and incompetent to officiate the game fairly.
We'll get used to the stoppages eventually.Oh it works in sports with hundreds of stoppages so let’s put it into one with very few. Good logic.
In here yes.That was one person.
As I said I don't agree with it. All decision should be clear and obvious mistakes even offside.Because the referee wouldnt spot it. With VAR, they get a clear look at it to apply the rules how they see fit. So yeah. The only thing VAR does is enables referees to see tough calls clearly.
And by current laws, it would be wrong decision.No that would have never have been offside live.
And players and fans will simply have to start toning down celebrations. Whatevs.I guess teams will just have to go back to scoring goals that aren’t marginally offside then!
That's not the issue people have with it. It turns the beautiful game into an American sport. Stop start.Every decision was right.
They were told to give the benefit of doubt to the attacker so it would have been the right decision.And by current laws, it would be wrong decision.
Did you watch the game? Because it quite literally did the opposite.People saying “oh but var made the champions league semi final dramatic” are missing the point. That was an incredible game.
Most VAR will be like today. Slowing the game down. Sucking the life out of the stadium.
Anyone here a season ticket holder and love VAR?
+1That's not the issue people have with it. It turns the beautiful game into an American sport. Stop start.
If people like it that's fine. I never have. I'd rather have bad calls and a free flowing game but that's me.
Actually think controversial calls are part of the game too and taking them away takes something away from the game too.
Why would you possibly want more stoppages?We'll get used to the stoppages eventually.
Surely any amount of interruptions are acceptable if they allow for the outcome of a game to be won or lost fair and square, no?
Yeah it’s heading towards American Football type stoppages as VAR evolves. It will be used more and more for decisions all over the pitch. This is just the beginning, it won’t get any better.This is appalling. I knew it would be. Football is natural, flowing game. The referee is a big part of that. A team of video analysts picking every decision isn’t going to do anyone any good.
How often do we sit after a game and watch a panel of pundits unable to agree of a decision. It’s a game of opinion. And that’s mine.
This is how I feel. Differences of opinion sure but it bugs me so much because I know that I personally will stop watching the sport, eventually, because of it.That's not the issue people have with it. It turns the beautiful game into an American sport. Stop start.
If people like it that's fine. I never have. I'd rather have bad calls and a free flowing game but that's me.
Actually think controversial calls are part of the game too and taking them away takes something away from the game too.
I don't want more stoppages but I'll tolerate them in the interest of fairness.Why would you possibly want more stoppages?
It was offside.No that would have never have been offside live.
If that's the price to pay for some correct decisions, it is worth it. We just need to be a little patient.Why would you possibly want more stoppages?
Fans in stadium are literally turning, in unison, to look towards a computer monitor now, to determine if they should celebrate.Pfft. The Man's not gonna tell me when I can celebrate a goal! The machines are taking over, sheeple!! Just like in The Matrix!!! And when Breville stopped my mum from making toasties!!!!
They’re patently not necessary, hence the health of the sport. A bad decision one game was always made up by one the next game, or often just later in the same game.I don't want more stoppages but I'll tolerate them in the interest of fairness.
Let's face it, far to many games down the years have been won or lost through a poor decision from the referee. VAR has been put in place to prevent that from happening.
Interruptions to the game are an unfortunate by-product of the VAR system but they're necessary all the same.
What a horrible thing indeed.Fans in stadium are literally turning, in unison, to look towards a computer monitor now, to determine if they should celebrate.
Not sure what you’re making fun of.
Mind you were getting correct decisions, what was it about 92% of the time, before VAR.If that's the price to pay for some correct decisions, it is worth it. We just need to be a little patient.