He took too long to react to the shot hence we conceded.
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Those shots don't have to be in the corner for the keeper to stand no chance. Its not a pen.
I would be lost for words too..
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I'm not surprised his distribution is getting back to LvG levels.
Under LvG, we played it out from the back and he was fine in doing so. Under José, José fooled a lot of our supporters into thinking he wanted us to play it out from the back when, in reality, he had Dave constantly hoof it up to a "target man" in Lukaku who was terrible at winning headers, terrible at controlling the ball under pressure, and terrible at holding it up.
Now, we've got a manager that wants us to play football again and his distribution is slowly coming back to his LvG days level as a result.
Under LvG, we played it out from the back and he was fine in doing so. Under José, José fooled a lot of our supporters into thinking he wanted us to play it out from the back when, in reality, he had Dave constantly hoof it up to a "target man" in Lukaku who was terrible at winning headers, terrible at controlling the ball under pressure, and terrible at holding it up.
Now, we've got a manager that wants us to play football again and his distribution is slowly coming back to his LvG days level as a result.
De Gea was slow to react to the shot if you watch the replay and focus on De Gea rather than Neves. He moved his feet too late to stop it IMO. If he was unsighted then then fair enough but if he wasn't then I would expect him to react quicker and save that shot.
Adnan mate, you are one of the better posters on here, but that is absolute bonkers. The ball hits the post on the way in, and the whole United and most of Wolves's team in front of De Gea, come the feck on now.
Maybe i'm wrong then Kostov. I just felt he could've moved his feet alittle quicker. But if he was unsighted then fair enough. Maybe i'm knit-picking..
But apart from that he was good and his distribution was on point which was good to see.
Couldn't do much for their goal IMO.
Glad we both agree on that.
He can only do that after he sees the ball. And he clearly only saw it once it was past the onrushing blocking players. And hence when you look from the front on view where you can see the ball all the way it looks like he was a little late to move. If you see it from behind the goal you'll see he had no chance.
It has nothing to do with fanboyism, and a lot more to do with your inability to actually analyze a situation.
Neves does extremely well after what seemed to be a poor second touch which takes the ball too close to his foot and slightly behind him. For the goalkeeper, given how close to Neves' body the ball is, it makes it more difficult to see when the shot is coming given the amount of United players closing Neves down. Secondly, the path of the ball, the height it reaches and just dipping at the right time to hit just below the crossbare makes it extremely difficult to save it even if he sees the shot early enough. People see these shots in videos and they don't grasp the pace it's actually hit at, or the distances. Given the average reaction time, distance to goal and how well it's hit, it's absurd to complain about it, especially so given the fact that he actually gets his fingertips on it. Believing the shot wasn't struck with power at all is just the tip of the iceberg...
If there's anything to complain about, it's Lingards positioning for that corner. Every other United player is covering someone, but Neves is stuck outside the box waiting for a potential pass while Lingard thinks he should act as 3rd cover for Rashford and James...
Another poster also mentioned that he believed he was saw the shot too late due to being unsighted. if that is the case then he's blameless.
Awesome. Someone will find a way to blame Lingard for global warming next. Back on topic, one thing those photos clearly show is a) Raul was yards offside b) he made no attempt to get back onside and c) he was directly between De Gea and the path of the ball.
VAR, eh? Bloody hell.
I was at the game and saw the shot from within the stadium and from many replays after. But it's a pointless discussion now after someone brought it to my attention he was unsighted by Moutinho.It has nothing to do with fanboyism, and a lot more to do with your inability to actually analyze a situation.
Neves does extremely well after what seemed to be a poor second touch which takes the ball too close to his foot and slightly behind him. For the goalkeeper, given how close to Neves' body the ball is, it makes it more difficult to see when the shot is coming given the amount of United players closing Neves down. Secondly, the path of the ball, the height it reaches and just dipping at the right time to hit just below the crossbare makes it extremely difficult to save it even if he sees the shot early enough. People see these shots in videos and they don't grasp the pace it's actually hit at, or the distances. Given the average reaction time, distance to goal and how well it's hit, it's absurd to complain about it, especially so given the fact that he actually gets his fingertips on it. Believing the shot wasn't struck with power at all is just the tip of the iceberg...
If there's anything to complain about, it's Lingards positioning for that corner. Every other United player is covering someone, but Neves is stuck outside the box waiting for a potential pass while Lingard thinks he should act as 3rd cover for Rashford and James...
Sorry I meant Raul Jiminez and not Moutinho. Cheers Pogue..
Back on topic, one thing those photos clearly show is a) Raul was yards offside b) he made no attempt to get back onside and c) he was directly between De Gea and the path of the ball.
VAR, eh? Bloody hell.
Bit of a weird reaction.
Back on topic, one thing those photos clearly show is a) Raul was yards offside b) he made no attempt to get back onside and c) he was directly between De Gea and the path of the ball.
VAR, eh? Bloody hell.
He doesn't have time to move his feet or the ball will be past him before he can dive.
Your point only makes sense since you know where the ball is going. He cant start diving before the ball is struck.
Was just watching some United videos and saw this one posted on the official United channel. Has some astonishing ones, but our Dave looks like he has come down a notch or 2 as a shot stopper from his absolute peak in the 17-18 season(Still can't believe how he saved 15 goals over the season). Still excellent though.
Man Utd 1:2 Crystal Palace
Awful for both goals. A modern day goalkeeper has a good starting position and sweeps up the won header for the first goal. De Gea finds it a chore to leave the safety of his line.
The less said about the second goal the better. Abysmal
If we give him a 5 year contract on 350k a week we are fecking mugs. We need a modern day goalkeeper.
The less said about the second goal the better. Abysmal
If we give him a 5 year contract on 350k a week we are fecking mugs. We need a modern day goalkeeper.
Depressing he's continuing his form from last season. If this keeps happening then maybe it's time we start trusting in Henderson.
He's regressed so much.
We can't give him a massive new deal on this form.
If he wants to wait until January I would say that's fine by the club.
As much has he has done for us it just can't happen.
If he wants to wait until January I would say that's fine by the club.
As much has he has done for us it just can't happen.
Why are our captains always playing shit.
If he hasn't signed the contract yet we should withdraw it . He's a shotstopper who is only going to get worse now his reflexes are going
As I said in his contract thread he's useless on the close angles and near post. Has always been. Nothing changed. Great keeper, but had some major flaws unfortunately.
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Needs dropping sorry, Romero in he needs a kick up his ass, those shots today he should have stopped both, definitely the 2nd !!
It's always funny seeing people jumping in to kill pogba but de gea is supposed to be a world class player that people constantly defend. The guy doesn't want to be here and has been poor for over a year now.
Fed up of his
a) Holding the club to ransom, delaying signing a contract
b) Recurrent blunders that have crept into his game
Get Romero in for a few games.
a) Holding the club to ransom, delaying signing a contract
b) Recurrent blunders that have crept into his game
Get Romero in for a few games.
He's declined massively. Don't care if he signs or if he goes, but he definitely doesn't deserve the armband. Bottles it too many times to be considered a leader.
Yeah people always say DDG is our only world class player but he's been subpar for a while now, especially for his standards. He's not even the best keeper in the league anymore.
Do not care if he signs now. Hardly remember any spectacular games in the last 12 months but so many mistakes. Adds zero value in passing . So many better keepers in the premier League now
Aren't these the same excuses people made for Alexis last year? He's no longer world class and if we actually have him sign that 5 year deal we deserve every bit of mediocrity we are suffering from.
Has he regressed on starting positions? I seem to remember him being good at this. But now hes getting beaten at the front post this late, and even his positioning for the first goal was not good.
I think I was wrong originally, he looks finished as a world class 'keeper.
Said it in the post match thread, him laughing at the end of the game is absolutely criminal from a United player after such a loss and he's our captain! Completely the wrong mentality, I'm really disappointed in him.
Said it in the post match thread, him laughing at the end of the game is absolutely criminal from a United player after such a loss and he's our captain! Completely the wrong mentality, I'm really disappointed in him.
Front post again. Bread and butter save.
I'd drop him, seriously.
If I was manager, Sergio Romero would be #1 for the foreseeable future. DDG cost us top 4 last season, his form in our past 16games or so has been appalling.
I actually wouldn't renew him either.
If I was manager, Sergio Romero would be #1 for the foreseeable future. DDG cost us top 4 last season, his form in our past 16games or so has been appalling.
I actually wouldn't renew him either.
How has he gone so bad? Really don’t know what’s going on, he should be in his prime but he never saves anything anymore.
De Gea's head is very much not in the game. Being beaten at the near post by that is something you would never have expected from him three or four years ago. If the nerves of the situation are getting to him that's bad, cos he's currently our captain and meant to be our leader. If its not the situation but coming from inside of thim that's even worse. Seriously starting to wonder if he will ever be what he was. When he was winning player of the season every season he would never be making this level of schoolboy error. Let's be frank. This is the kind of stuff we used to sneer at Claudio Bravo for doing.
I think he has concentration issues as he never looks himself unless he’s busy, he has the same issues with Spain.
He should have saved that shot, it went straight through him.
He should have saved that shot, it went straight through him.
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