Premier League Gameweek 4

[RobinLFC]

Looks like City and us are still a few levels above the rest of the league. Title could well be decided H2H and in away games against the other big 6.

Still really fancy City at this point though, they look almost unbeatable while we are just very clinical at the moment.

 

[Saffa_Koppite]

It was bound to happen. Salah's greed affecting the other two. Firminho is ridiculously cool and seems OK with it as long as we're winning but Mane is feeling like I would. I just want to break his legs.

Two things will happen, either one or both will want to leave or Salah will visibly start making more passes than he wants to or even should in the context of the games coming up.

There’s no chance in hell both will leave. Not a enough money in the world to get them. Let’s not forget there’s only two clubs in world football that can afford them, and Barcelona is totally out of the running with their interest in Neymar.
Salah will likely go, and to be honest, who cares, we will receive over 200 mil quid for him, and will just strengthen and get even better like we did with Couthino.

 

[esmufc07]

There’s no chance in hell both will leave. Not a enough money in the world to get them. Let’s not forget there’s only two clubs in world football that can afford them, and Barcelona is totally out of the running with their interest in Neymar.
Salah will likely go, and to be honest, who cares, we will receive over 200 mil quid for him, and will just strengthen and get even better like we did with Couthino.

You can sign Lingard from us to replace him. He's a good young player

 

[Wayne's World]

Looks like City and us are still a few levels above the rest of the league. Title could well be decided H2H and in away games against the other big 6.

Still really fancy City at this point though, they look almost unbeatable while we are just very clinical at the moment.

I think both you and City will finish on 100+ points this season and then it's upto the games between both of you to decide the title.

 

[Bearded One]

Looks like City and us are still a few levels above the rest of the league. Title could well be decided H2H and in away games against the other big 6.

Still really fancy City at this point though, they look almost unbeatable while we are just very clinical at the moment.

Its going to be another records breaking season for you both. Watching your game and City's just after mine was hard to take personally because I love football and don't see myself not following the game despite the years of decline.

There is little between both teams in terms of first team quality. City's second team is close to their first in quality but your second team is a far cry from the first. On the other hand City are not as medically and physically efficient as your lot. The fact that most of your choice eleven rarely gets sidelined is a blessing for your lot and covers the weakness of the inadequacy of the second team. City on the other hand do not get too pressured by their injuries because they have quality on the bench.

I think its safe to say that Liverpool will win this campaign not because you are better than City (I think they are better than you) but because you are a more balanced team. I was watching City this afternoon and I think they are heavy upfront but very light at the back and I make bold to say that will be their undoing. Bernado and Mahrez can't even get a game at the same time. Having said that I think you guys should do everything possible to keep your star men fit. You guys are absolutely brilliant, I doff my hat.

 

[Armchair Manager]

Hello...what's it like supporting Northampton then? I must confess I know absolutely nothing about them. Not even sure where it is.

Not my fault if you too dumb to not know where northampton is.

Also Arsenal won as much as northampton but we just didnt wasted millions while doing that.

 

[Armchair Manager]

You can think Liverpool are a very good team whilst also acknowledging when they get lucky. It's not one or the other.

Luck favour those who try. Also liverpool won 3-0 while salah wasted multiple chances. Its not like liverpool got scrappy goal. They won it convincingly just like they did against you lot.

 

[SilentWitness]

City and Liverpool are in a league of their own.

The rest of the league is anyone’s guess this year. A lot of teams have caught up with Arsenal, United, Chelsea and Spurs.

I reckon we might have another season like Moyes’ horror show with you where a team like us comes 5th.

 

[RedSky]

City and Liverpool are in a league of their own.

The rest of the league is anyone’s guess this year. A lot of teams have caught up with Arsenal, United, Chelsea and Spurs.

I reckon we might have another season like Moyes’ horror show with you where a team like us comes 5th.

I think its far too early to predict anything with any degree of certainty to be honest. The only thing thats clear is Liverpool/City are a tier above everyone else. The order of 3rd to 8th could be anything to be honest.

 

[BridgeBanter]

They definitely bottled the title last season despite getting to 97 points, they were excellent chasers but shit the bed when they had the advantage.

However i feel they may hold on if they establish another big lead, now they've got that taste for winning things they will hold their nerve a bit better.

Shit the bed? Thats unfair. They literally broke the season points tally record last season. The game that they “shit the bed” was away from home against the team that eventually won the title. That same team also breaking the league points tally record.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

They tell me the league has never been stronger, I disagree.
Look at how City and Liverpool are pissing away every team like they’re nothing.
There are two great teams, a couple of decent ones and the rest aren’t anything special, regardless of how much they spend on players, average players just cost more money than they did 10 years ago and that’s it.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

They tell me the league has never been stronger, I disagree.
Look at how City and Liverpool are pissing away every team like they’re nothing.
There are two great teams, a couple of decent ones and the rest aren’t anything special, regardless of how much they spend on players, average players just cost more money than they did 10 years ago and that’s it.

I'm kinda stuck between 'city and liverpool are just that good' and agreeing with you.

On one hand, we got to the CL final and both arsenal/chelsea were EL finalists .. which surely is some evidence at least that the top six at least is in a pretty decent state. Wolves comfortably dispatched with Torino too in the recent EL qualifier, in general the league is having positive match ups with foreign clubs.

But my god it is so easy for Liverpool/City, and premier league fans would absolutely be mocking it if it was happening elsewhere.

 

[B20]

It was bound to happen. Salah's greed affecting the other two. Firminho is ridiculously cool and seems OK with it as long as we're winning but Mane is feeling like I would. I just want to break his legs.

Two things will happen, either one or both will want to leave or Salah will visibly start making more passes than he wants to or even should in the context of the games coming up.

Ffs. What drama queen nonsense.

 

[HerrLeinad]

But my god it is so easy for Liverpool/City, and premier league fans would absolutely be mocking it if it was happening elsewhere.

Maybe some around here will now just accept what Real, Barca or Bayern fans have always been saying: That's just how it works (in any league) if you have truely great sides in your league.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

I'm kinda stuck between 'city and liverpool are just that good' and agreeing with you.

On one hand, we got to the CL final and both arsenal/chelsea were EL finalists .. which surely is some evidence at least that the top six at least is in a pretty decent state. Wolves comfortably dispatched with Torino too in the recent EL qualifier, in general the league is having positive match ups with foreign clubs.

But my god it is so easy for Liverpool/City, and premier league fans would absolutely be mocking it if it was happening elsewhere.

There are too many fancy managers trying to play fancy football against far superior teams.
Teams like Pulis’ Stoke and Big Sam’s Bolton would make life a lot more difficult for your current Liverpool or City imo, stop trying to play football against them ffs.
Rough em up, play dirty, treat every foul in your favour as a potential attacking set piece and take your fecking time.

I refuse to count Man United, Chelsea or Arsenal as good teams, regardless of their achievements in the EL.

Maybe some around here will now just accept what Real, Barca or Bayern fans have always been saying: That's just how it works (in any league) if you have truely great sides in your league.

Not a chance this Liverpool team is any better than 2007-2009 United or some of the great Chelsea teams of that era.
La Liga is an entirely different story from a financial point of view to be honest.

 

[Dancfc]

Shit the bed? Thats unfair. They literally broke the season points tally record last season. The game that they “shit the bed” was away from home against the team that eventually won the title. That same team also breaking the league points tally record.

They won something like 4 games in 10 from that City game and onwards when they had a chance to really take control of the title race.

Yes they did well keeping City honest after losing top spot but the reality is they had multiple opportunity's to stamp their authority all over that title (7 points ahead in New Year, 4 points ahead with your closest challengers faced twice, beat Leicester at home to go 7 points clear) and shouldn't have lost top spot from their position.

Sadly though as i said i think they will learn their lesson this time so hopefully City don't get to far behind.

 

[Dancfc]

There are too many fancy managers trying to play fancy football against far superior teams.
Teams like Pulis’ Stoke and Big Sam’s Bolton would make life a lot more difficult for your current Liverpool or City imo, stop trying to play football against them ffs.
Rough em up, play dirty, treat every foul in your favour as a potential attacking set piece and take your fecking time.

I refuse to count Man United, Chelsea or Arsenal as good teams, regardless of their achievements in the EL.

Both Big Sam and Pulis faced Pep and got smashed.

Any of their teams would be seeing stars facing this City.

 

[Josh 76]

Looks like City and us are still a few levels above the rest of the league. Title could well be decided H2H and in away games against the other big 6.

Still really fancy City at this point though, they look almost unbeatable while we are just very clinical at the moment.

Liverpool look more unbeatable than City. Last season proves that. Only English team to beat Liverpool were City. Wheres as City lost to Palace, Leicester, Newcastle and Spurs. If Liverpool can avoid defeat against City this season, that will seal the title.

 

[Mogget]

Luck favour those who try. Also liverpool won 3-0 while salah wasted multiple chances. Its not like liverpool got scrappy goal. They won it convincingly just like they did against you lot.

The first goal was the definition of scrappy, it was a deflected cross ffs. They did win convincingly against us, but you'll note I didn't claim their win against us was lucky. Today they were.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Both Big Sam and Pulis faced Pep and got smashed.

Any of their teams would be seeing stars facing this City.

These were past-it versions of Pulis and Big Sam though.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

There are too many fancy managers trying to play fancy football against far superior teams.
Teams like Pulis’ Stoke and Big Sam’s Bolton would make life a lot more difficult for your current Liverpool or City imo, stop trying to play football against them ffs.
Rough em up, play dirty, treat every foul in your favour as a potential attacking set piece and take your fecking time.

I somewhat agree tbh. Generally managers are more 'progressive' with their style and whilst I generally do think this is a good thing, with teams like City especially you need to get in their faces and certainly can't try and beat them at their own game because they'll cut you apart.

We don't really have any teams left like the ones you mentioned, I remember a trip to the Britannia being genuinely intimidating, then they tried to become Stokealona and sure the football was more attractive but they were nowhere near as intimidating any longer.

But then I do agree with @Dancfc that the vast majority of the time even Sam's Bolton and Pulis' Stoke would be getting battered by City. Their football is the best I've ever seen in the Premier League.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Not a chance this Liverpool team is any better than 2007-2009 United or some of the great Chelsea teams of that era.
La Liga is an entirely different story from a financial point of view to be honest.

Not sure how true this is really. They're back to back CL finalists (and current holders, obviously) as well as obviously getting an insane points tally whilst looking like they could do it again (and who would bet against another serious European run?).

I hate to fecking admit it but this Liverpool side is up there. Very unfortunate for them (but fortunate for the rest of the league) that city exist.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Not sure how true this is really. They're back to back CL finalists (and current holders, obviously) as well as obviously getting an insane points tally whilst looking like they could do it again (and who would bet against another serious European run?).

I hate to fecking admit it but this Liverpool side is up there. Very unfortunate for them (but fortunate for the rest of the league) that city exist.

I’m not saying they’re not a great team, they are definitely up there.

I somewhat agree tbh. Generally managers are more 'progressive' with their style and whilst I generally do think this is a good thing, with teams like City especially you need to get in their faces and certainly can't try and beat them at their own game because they'll cut you apart.

We don't really have any teams left like the ones you mentioned, I remember a trip to the Britannia being genuinely intimidating, then they tried to become Stokealona and sure the football was more attractive but they were nowhere near as intimidating any longer.

But then I do agree with @Dancfc that the vast majority of the time even Sam's Bolton and Pulis' Stoke would be getting battered by City. Their football is the best I've ever seen in the Premier League.

Absolutely.
I mean, literally every thrown-in in their final third was a corner, there’s really all that much you can do against that, particularly if you’re a short team like City.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

I mean, literally every thrown-in in their final third was a corner, there’s really all that much you can do against that, particularly if you’re a short team like City.

Would be interesting. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic but it'd kinda be interesting to see how those teams would do in the current PL.

I do think they'd at least be harder to beat for the top six, and would definitely pick up some wins at home. Sam's Bolton could play as well.

 

[Dancfc]

Would be interesting. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic but it'd kinda be interesting to see how those teams would do in the current PL.

I do think they'd at least be harder to beat for the top six, and would definitely pick up some wins at home. Sam's Bolton could play as well.

They only really made it hard for the likes of Arsenal, early Sheikh City, Spurs and Liverpool who while decent had soft underbellys that could be exploited. Chelsea and United more often than not beat Sam's Bolton/Blackburn and TP's Stoke quite comfortably.

Would be a similar song now. Chelsea, United, Spurs and Arsenal would have problems with them while City and Liverpool would have them seeing stars.

 

[Casanova85]

It's totally going to be another City vs Pool duel for the title.

3rd and 4th probably for Arsenal and Spurs.

Chelsea is just as bad as Man Utd is. Leicester might even fight for the 4th place (stealing thunder from the Spurs; they could very well lose tomorrow at the Emirates).

 

[Mickytrickster]

There are too many fancy managers trying to play fancy football against far superior teams.
Teams like Pulis’ Stoke and Big Sam’s Bolton would make life a lot more difficult for your current Liverpool or City imo, stop trying to play football against them ffs.
Rough em up, play dirty, treat every foul in your favour as a potential attacking set piece and take your fecking time.

I refuse to count Man United, Chelsea or Arsenal as good teams, regardless of their achievements in the EL.


Not a chance this Liverpool team is any better than 2007-2009 United or some of the great Chelsea teams of that era.
La Liga is an entirely different story from a financial point of view to be honest.

Joke of a reply. This team mails your best united team. This liverpool team has helped shaped football over the last 10 years

 

[Cheech Wizard]

The first goal was the definition of scrappy, it was a deflected cross ffs. They did win convincingly against us, but you'll note I didn't claim their win against us was lucky. Today they were.

Rubbish. It's convincing away win at a ground where every PL team can admit is difficult ground to go to. Burnley didn't do jack shit to threaten us today. They played better last season there where we were hanging on.

 

[Dancfc]

It's totally going to be another City vs Pool duel for the title.

3rd and 4th probably for Spurs and Arsenal.

Chelsea is just as bad as Man Utd is. Leicester might even fight for the 4th place.

Spurs are everybit as bad at the minute. Arsenal are in a great position for 3rd without being great themselves.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

They only really made it hard for the likes of Arsenal, early Sheikh City, Spurs and Liverpool who while decent had soft underbellys that could be exploited. Chelsea and United more often than not beat Sam's Bolton/Blackburn and TP's Stoke quite comfortably.

Would be a similar song now. Chelsea, United, Spurs and Arsenal would have problems with them while City and Liverpool would have them seeing stars.

That’s because Chelsea were possibly even more physical than Bolton or Stoke and could beat them at their own game, United were no mugs either.

Arsenal were the closest to a Pep team style wise, nowhere near as good but still, I can imagine City’s midgets struggling at the Brittania with Delap’s rocket throw ins with their men-mountains all in City’s box.

 

[Casanova85]

Spurs are everybit as bad at the minute. Arsenal are in a great position for 3rd without being great themselves.

Still waiting for the Arsenal vs Spurs result to decide if Spurs are indeed facing a crisis...

 

[Sigma]

You can say Salah is more greedy, which is probably true, but over the last 2 seasons in all competitions:

Salah
2017/18 - 14 assists
2018/19 - 10 assists
2019/20 (so far) - 2 assists

TOTAL: 30 assists

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/108226/History/Mohamed-Salah

Mane

2017/18 - 8 assists
2018/19 - 2 assists
2019/20 (so far) - 1 assists

TOTAL: 11 assists

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/109915/History/Sadio-Mané

 

[Bearded One]

Liverpool look more unbeatable than City. Last season proves that. Only English team to beat Liverpool were City. Wheres as City lost to Palace, Leicester, Newcastle and Spurs. If Liverpool can avoid defeat against City this season, that will seal the title.

People underestimated Liverpool but are now coming to the realization that they are damn good. I think City is slightly better but the Liverpool team look more balanced and settled. There is an uncertainty I have about City, that sort of heavy up and light down kind of problem and it will be their undoing.

If Liverpool continue to keep their players in good shape, there would be no stopping them. And credit to their medical team as well.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Joke of a reply. This team mails your best united team. This liverpool team has helped shaped football over the last 10 years

2007-2009 United with prime Vidic, Rio and Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez beat that Pool team in their own game 7 times out of ten, player by player United were superior and had more quality almost all across the pitch.

Klopp has coached them fantastically well but United’s forwards will be too much for your defenders, whilst our defenders could deal with your forwards, that’s when the match will be won.

Firminho? Tevez
Mane? Rooney
Salah? C.Ronaldo

Fabinho? Carrick
Weinjaldum? Scholes
Henderson? Hargreaves

Robinson? Evra
VVD? Rio
Matip? Vidic

I’ll give you TAA over Brown, that’s all.

Win a league title first.

 

[Grinner]

Not my fault if you too dumb to not know where northampton is.

Also Arsenal won as much as northampton but we just didnt wasted millions while doing that.

Lolzy, alrighty then.

 

[Dancfc]

2007-2009 United with prime Vidic, Rio and Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez beat that Pool team in their own game 7 times out of ten, player by player United were superior and had more quality almost all across the pitch.

Klopp has coached them fantastically well but United’s forwards will be too much for your defenders, whilst our defenders could deal with your forwards, that’s when the match will be won.

Firminho? Tevez
Mane? Rooney
Salah? C.Ronaldo

Fabinho? Carrick
Weinjaldum? Scholes
Henderson? Hargreaves

Robinson? Evra
VVD? Rio
Matip? Vidic

I’ll give you TAA over Brown, that’s all.

Win a league title first.

If in a hypothetical world both teams merged i would imagine 343 would be the go to formation.

And Firminho would definitely get in, CR7 couldn't handpick a better strike partner for his requirements (ie doing the donkey work while he gets the major headlines).

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

People underestimated Liverpool but are now coming to the realization that they are damn good. I think City is slightly better but the Liverpool team look more balanced and settled. There is an uncertainty I have about City, that sort of heavy up and light down kind of problem and it will be their undoing.

If Liverpool continue to keep their players in good shape, there would be no stopping them. And credit to their medical team as well.

If Laporte’s injury is as bad as it looked that will be a key factor in the title race

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

If in a hypothetical world both teams merged i would imagine 343 would be the go to formation.

And Firminho would definitely get in, CR7 couldn't handpick a better strike partner for his requirements (ie doing the donkey work while he gets the major headlines).

Rooney says hello.

 

[always_hoping]

The opposite of last season could well happen with Liverpool to win the league and Man City to win the champions league. I recall in 1993 Liverpool supporters saying to me that they will never go 26 years without a league title yet here we are and if they win it in 2020 it will be a 30 year wait.

 

[Anustart89]

If Laporte’s injury is as bad as it looked that will be a key factor in the title race

They got 98 points last season without their best player for most of the season. I don't think Laporte being out is as significant as missing KdB.