That’s the impression I got too. That it was a desired thing by the organisers that the protesters be heard loud and clear over the PM.
I think the EU have come out of it looking pretty pathetic to be honest. Yes sections of the media and public will be critical of Boris but in my opinion it was very childish to refuse to hold the conference inside and clearly shows a total inability to work with the UK as opposed to petty point scoring and playing the blame game when everyone should be pulling together to sort this mess out.
I think the EU are absolutely fed up with the conservative government and have accepted that getting a deal out of them is an impossibility so they are waiting for No Deal or an extension and General Election.
They couldn't fit the press into an internal location in the last minute time frame, i don't know how that's more childish than a grown man being scared to speak in front of a small crowd in case they shout.
I don't think it's a case of being scared. Essentially it's a key period of negotiation where all sides want to be seen as holding power. Being put up Infront of that crowd would have been humiliation and hardly done anything to strengthen our position - if anything it further weakens it.
You and me both. And to see him now trying to be contrite and apologetic is even worse.
I have to say don't agree with this argument, it just doesn't stack up logically for me.
I got the impression the protesters were there most of the day, knowing the PM was there and he would speak. The organisers knew they were there and that they would be a nuisance long before it came to a head. It didn't look like a last minute thing.
Does anyone have the ability to work with this Conservative government bar Saudi arms buyers and Chinese nuclear investors?
A Career outside politics maybe, she is young enough for that, or if she stays a lucrative appointment as a 'good European' in a Commissioner role?
The problem with May's negotiations and May's deal is that she had rigid red lines which they would not budge on at all and that defined the shape of the eventual deal and the reason the backstop exists. If a Labour or Labour led coalition agreed to stay in the SM and CU then the backstop issue is gone. The current shape of parliament would never in a million years pass a deal like that or let the public vote on it but I believe that in the scenario of a Labour/Coalition government there would be enough MPs to agree to that being a soft enough Brexit to at least put to a vote (partly because they would be confident enough that Remain would win that vote comfortably).
For obvious reasons, the EU doesn't give positions of power to non-EU diplomats or politicians. So that's completely off the table if the UK leaves.
There's no one to pair with. That's the thing. The only one she hasn't ruled out is SNP. But SNP will likely require a 2nd Indy Ref as price for propping up anyone. And that's extremely dangerous (and unfair) to give in this climate.
To be fair, only the electorate can give her the 300 seats she claims she can get. So if she does get them, that's not really "stuff the electorate" is it? It would indicate a massive swing of the vote towards Remain. It's actually much easier to get a Revoke result in a referendum (about half the country is pro-Remain anyway) than for Lib Dems to get 300 seats in a GE.
Agreed, up to now the EU could claim some of the high ground in terms of Brexit 'gaming-restraint', despite "the special place in hell" and other such comments they have a least given a semblance of 'sticking together', even to the extent of getting May to sit on the naughty step at one conference. However yesterdays attempt to embarrass Boris, was tantamount to the little guy running up to the big guy, kicking his shins then running away grinning, hoping his big brother will sort it out after.
... but not if we don't leave! Swinson may not win outright but her 'No Brexit at any cost' stance' will award her Joan of Arc type status, especially if the Lib Dems lose out to Labour and then chuck her out!
If the only option left to her take hold of the reigns of power in Westminster, Swinson will be odds on to let the Scots have Indy 2, besides she doesn't seem to want to take notice of any referendum results so the SNP can go ahead, she if she cares!
To revoke A50 will still ignore the result of the last referendum and whilst some Leavers may have changed their mind, there will still be a significant divide and the majority of the UK contingent in the EU Parliament is still held by euro sceptics. The chance to revoke A50 occurred when May couldn't get her deal through, her last act should have been to say I've tried but failed, hence I am revoking A50...swift exit stage left!
Why would they chuck her out for losing to Labour? Literally no-one thinks the Lib Dems will get more seats than Labour.
It weakens our negotiating position? How?
Swinson does!
This misses the point. When May entered negotiations, Remain was not an option. The only options were Deal or No Deal. So of course the EU entered negotiations to get a deal, it was in everyone's interests to do so, including theirs. A deal was, at that point, their best possible outcome.
It makes us look even weaker. The plaything of the EU. Just my opinion of course but I think it's naive of people to not think the EU didn't plan or want Boris to be humiliated by the crowd.
Firstly what nationality were the people who were heckling Boris and if a leader cannot stand up in front of few dozen people proves how pathetic he really is. Quite brave to stand up in front of people who agree with him. Hopeless.
Where there protests at all?
Don't forget the DUP.
I love a Lib Dem "hypothetical".
Yes totally, just look at how the nefarious EU make him also speak outside 10 Downing Street with similar protests audible in the background.
Ridiculous, presenting your opinion as demonstrable fact.
Seems to me you love meaningless statements even more.
At this point I actually think the EU's preference is for a soft Brexit. The issue of Brexit isn't going to go away and remain winning the referendum will only be viewed as 1-1 even if remain won 60/40+. If we did remain in the UK, the EU-sceptic press will just ramp up anti-EU sentiments and do their best to disrupt the EU agenda.
I maintain that the force-feeding of Brexit to the public via tv, press, radio and so on is a deliberate strategy. And that's regardless of the undoubted importance of the subject.
You might well be right but the 90% would still be utterly wrong. It is a truly stupid idea based on a protest vote against (ironically) being treated terribly by the top end of town (Boris and his ilk), idiotic nostalgic nationalism for a past that never really existed with the xenophobic nutcases added on top.
Weaker to who? If it's to EU themselves you're saying they set it up so surely backing out shows manipulation works and that's what would be seen as weakness.
Same thing.
Sorry, but Britain leaving the EU is a threat to the long term viability of the EU itself. The idea of the EU willingly passing up an opportunity for that to be prevented, and prevented via a democratic vote to boot, simply to keep likes of the Daily Mail and Nigel Farage quiet is fairly absurd.
Out of interest the only people bothered are the rabid British Brexit press how Luxembourg humiliated poor little UK. We could hear quite clearly what the Luxembourg PM was saying. Boris was supposed to announce the progress and the plan and how the people's lives who were outside would not be damaged - didn't have a lot to say, or if he had something to say and it was positive news for those people surely he would have been cheered.
