MackRobinson
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The **** of Mourinho. This will happen every time Spurs win and United lose.
How can anyone possibly dispute this is a new look and younger United team?A new young team? Because we add James into the starting XI? You make it sound as if a extreme overhauling was made and we are playing with youngsters.
Its not a new young team, its the same squad plus 3 new players from which 2 are consolidated internationals.
Stop justifying the failures.
AWB its a consolidated player, thats why he cost what he cost.Yeah AWB, Tuanzebe, Williams, Mctominay, James, Rashford, Greenwood. Old bastards that have been playing together for years.
It's like talking to a Kenwood juicerHow can anyone possibly dispute this is a new look and younger United team?
It’s literally impossible to argue. Yet here we are.
It may be younger than last season, but its not a young inexperienced team and some like to post them. Besides McTominay and Daniel James all the other starters have plenty experience.How can anyone possibly dispute this is a new look and younger United team?
It’s literally impossible to argue. Yet here we are.
You just threw "inexperienced" in to save face. Definitely a young team. Not sure what you're on about.It may be younger than last season, but its not a young inexperienced team and some like to post them. Besides McTominay and Daniel James all the other starters have plenty experience.
Are you on drugs? It's the only reason I can give for you talking so much dog shit.AWB its a consolidated player, thats why he cost what he cost.
McTominay and specially Rashford are youngsters but they’re not unexperienced.
Greenwood, Tuanzabe and Williams are playing part as squad players, you cant say you got a young team just because you have youngsters on the bench, most teams do.
James is the only one given, who’s inexperienced and consistently getting minutes.
But hey we have some old bastards, De Gea, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Fred, Lingard, Martial, Rashford.
Like I said stop making excuses for poor performance.
Sometimes you wonder if people like you realy read what they write.AWB its a consolidated player, thats why he cost what he cost.
McTominay and specially Rashford are youngsters but they’re not unexperienced.
Greenwood, Tuanzabe and Williams are playing part as squad players, you cant say you got a young team just because you have youngsters on the bench, most teams do.
James is the only one given, who’s inexperienced and consistently getting minutes.
But hey we have some old bastards, De Gea, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Fred, Lingard, Martial, Rashford.
Like I said stop making excuses for poor performance.
I wrote yesterday that I think there is generation difference how people watch and think football. Football Manager generation think they can change everything in second by clicking on "new game" or reset computer. Even in real life.Are you on drugs? It's the only reason I can give for you talking so much dog shit.
I've made no excuses if you care to read what I wrote. The fact is the oldest outfield players in the first eleven are 26. There isn't a player over 30 in our first choice fully fit side. The average age is little over 20. The first eleven is new in the sense is not a group of players that has experience playing together. That added to the young age and managerial/coaching inexperience is going to result in inconsistencies.
The club has a direction and plan. Either get behind it or fecking do one. You take the rough with the smooth.
Lets end it there, are you 13 or something?no need for insultsAre you on drugs? It's the only reason I can give for you talking so much dog shit.
I've made no excuses if you care to read what I wrote. The fact is the oldest outfield players in the first eleven are 26. There isn't a player over 30 in our first choice fully fit side. The average age is little over 20. The first eleven is new in the sense is not a group of players that has experience playing together. That added to the young age and managerial/coaching inexperience is going to result in inconsistencies.
The club has a direction and plan. Either get behind it or fecking do one. You take the rough with the smooth.
You should end it by logging off and not bothering to log back on (until United win some silverwear again which is the most likely outcome for someone like you)Lets end it there, are you 13 or something?no need for insults
I point it out because its not about age really, its about experience.You just threw "inexperienced" in to save face. Definitely a young team. Not sure what you're on about.
Aren’t we literally one point less than we were last season? By that logic if we win next week we’ll have more points and a similar amount of goals so are suddenly going to be going forwards then? How ridiculous does the sound?Are you being thick on purpose? We've won less, scored less and amassed fewer points. Incredible that a set of our fan base ignores results when they need to but will bring up certain wins here and there when it helps their baseless opinions.
First we needed a transfer window, then a break, then a pre season, then Martial, then Pogba, then a Jan window, now more quality. What comes next?I bet you had saved this in draft and werw ready to fire last week but we won against city and spurs and you were waiting for us to drop points so that you can create a thread about it.
To your point, No we have not gone backwards. We just need more quality.
Mbappe is a young player and nobody is talking about recently debuted players. Manchester United has one of the youngest squads in the PL. Period. I have no idea why you are making these odd distinction when the original point was if the team was young.I point it out because its not about age really, its about experience.
You wouldnt call Mbappe a youngster and justify him as a recently debut player would you?
Just admit you were wrong and move on.A new young team? Because we add James into the starting XI? You make it sound as if a extreme overhauling was made and we are playing with youngsters.
Its not a new young team, its the same squad plus 3 new players from which 2 are consolidated internationals.
Stop justifying the failures.
The point is that you mention young as if it's a liability and we’re on disadvantage because of it, and being young is not a liability, being inexperienced is and we don’t have an inexperienced squad.Mbappe is a young player and nobody is talking about recently debuted players. Manchester United has one of the youngest squads in the PL. Period. I have no idea why you are making these odd distinction when the original point was if the team was young.
Just admit you were wrong and move on.
He won't admit he's wrong despite looking ridiculously daft because it doesn't suit the agenda.Mbappe is a young player and nobody is talking about recently debuted players. Manchester United has one of the youngest squads in the PL. Period. I have no idea why you are making these odd distinction when the original point was if the team was young.
Just admit you were wrong and move on.
We were awful last year. And we're worse than that in terms of points and goals scored. At this rate we'll score 58 goals at the end of the season. That's what you call entertaining attacking football? We can't keep a clean sheet either after spending another £130m which is appalling.It tells me you weren’t watching properly. We were awful under Mourinho. Boring, pragmatic, defensive football, without the results to justify it.
You're doing the football support wrong mate. You should bury your head into the sand and think everything is OK.People saying we haven't gone backwards We 100% did, not only points wise, which considering that Jose has literally sabotaged everything just to get the sack but still managed to win more points is amazing. We are worst we have been since SAF, including Moyes era but it's apparently not going backwards because we papered over the cracks with a few wins against good teams.
Ripped apart? You make it sound like we dominated & battered them, we didn't. We defended deep and only hit them on the counter which they're vulnerable to. By that logic, Norwich & Wolves also "ripped them apart".What would anyone have done differently? I'm just seeing a bunch of knee jerk reactions and not any actual suggestions to improvement.
The team that started today ripped Manchester City apart, you can't just go "Oh should have started x" intstead and play the biggest hindsight card ever.
We're closer to top 4 because the quality around is shit and we can't take advantage of it. And we're worse in almost every other recordable aspect.We are much closer to top 4 than we where last year. We’ve no toxicity, no face scratching showing off the latest watch. Score more goals, look more threatening, younger team, brighter prospects all round in my view
Sanchez is still gone regardless, he’s not the elephant in the room anymore and therefore not a distraction.We have not gotten rid of a lot of deadwood. Sanchez is away on loan and we're paying half his wages still. Darmian is gone, Lukaku is gone but he wasn't deadwood. Herrera is gone which hurt us and Valencia basically retired.
Well saidFeck me... I swear the drama queens in here. It’s a feckin embarrassment.
We were a decent VAR decision away from a win today, we’ve been playing well and getting good results. A draw against a buoyed Everton side with a new manager bounce and the weak come crawling out from under their rocks in here.
We’ve gotten rid of a shed load of deadwood, have our best player out almost all season so far, playing kids - and we are still much better than when we were under Jose.
If football that was simple we would have been dominating by now. I am not going to say Ole is the answer to our problem, maybe he is but I will not focus too much just on results for the short term basis. Jose had his chance and he took us nowhere. Ole may also be not the answer but he will be leaving with young vibrant squad which Jose did not leave with.First we needed a transfer window, then a break, then a pre season, then Martial, then Pogba, then a Jan window, now more quality. What comes next?
I made a thread like this in June 2018 and was laughed at becuase we were making "progress".We definitely haven't gone backwards. Progress has been slow though.
you can’t blame everyone else for us being closer to top 4. We are far better to watch, have far more goals or chances in us and out outlook is a million times better today than it was this time last year. I don’t know how anyone could argue otherwise but this is RedcafeWe're closer to top 4 because the quality around is shit and we can't take advantage of it. And we're worse in almost every other recordable aspect.
Not the dove of peace, then. There's an article in the Sunday Times listing the players involved in Jose's last few games. Read it and ask yourself do you want to be back there. I'm going to go ahead and assume you're happier to see Greenwood coming on today than Sanchez? There was a big job of work ahead of Ole. It's underway. Have a bit of perspective.People saying we haven't gone backwards We 100% did, not only points wise, which considering that Jose has literally sabotaged everything just to get the sack but still managed to win more points is amazing. We are worst we have been since SAF, including Moyes era but it's apparently not going backwards because we papered over the cracks with a few wins against good teams.
Why are you still talking about Sheff and Villa!?2 decent results of late. We've done the same all season. A few wins followed by some shockers. Unless you're happy with draws to Sheff and Villa.
We wasn't a decent VAR decision away from a win either.