Prolly haven't watch our games.Martial is very good with his back to goal.
Martial this season is a different player since we signed him.
Prolly haven't watch our games.Martial is very good with his back to goal.
If we had a swap deal with Rashford going our way and Tammy going your way then United would be by far the happier of the two.
You know they were bath salts in your stocking? You're not supposed to eat them pal.If we had a swap deal with Rashford going our way and Tammy going your way then United would be by far the happier of the two.
I can't disagree with you regarding Kane. He isn't just a goalscorer, his passing and link up play is very good. I can't think of another 'traditional' centre forward that combines goalscoring with creativity as effectively as him.I think you'd have to be bonkers to think about not playing Rashford at this point. The front three are all nailed on and in the recent England games Rashford's probably been the pick of them.
I've yet to see Sancho do anything in an England shirt to suggest he should be playing ahead of any of them. He's a potentially very good player but the other three are already consistently making even the best defences they come up against look like a bunch of muppets. Sancho could be doing the same in a few years and then it will be interesting.
It is amazing how far it's come on in such a short time. Four years ago Greenwood would be walking into the England squad just on the back of what he's done at United. Now you have a pick of 4-5 very good attacking players who you already can't justify putting in the first team. Sancho, Abraham, Maddison, Mount, Grealish...that's before you even start thinking about someone like Greenwood.
I also think Kane will be the one causing the headache in a few years time. Because you already have two players in Sterling and Rashford who not only get goals, but who contribute hugely in terms of work rate, movement, stretching the opposition, assists, etc. The batch of youngsters on the fringes are all very similar, where as Kane only offers goals. Not that this is a bad thing when he's scoring 30+ a season, but if you end up with three or more top level forwards who offer goals and more, it gets very difficult to justify having someone static up top in any game where the team is struggling.
Do it. It'd be nice to laugh at those clowns.Searching with 'Welbeck' in this thread is awesome, some gems in this thread.
Kane does have games where his link up play is very good and actually can pick a through ball very well. The problem is he also has games where if his team isn't on top, he offers absolutely nothing at all.I can't disagree with you regarding Kane. He isn't just a goalscorer, his passing and link up play is very good. I can't think of another 'traditional' centre forward that combines goalscoring with creativity as effectively as him.
You're right about Rashford though. With his current form for both club and country, it's going to be impossible to leave him out.
I was bored so rather than comparing just appearances I compared goals/assists and minutes played.Rashford v Ronaldo incoming.
He always was going to show the form he had in the Championship. Doesn’t make him rubbish but he shouldn’t be the first choice striker at a club like Chelsea. He reminds me a little bit of Origi; not quite top class but ok to come on as subAbraham is a bit rubbish tbf.
It's certainly a good problem to have. I remember when we opened St Georges Park in 2012 and Sheepshanks was heavily criticized for saying we should be looking to win a World cup in 2020s. It was brought up several times in later years as a rod to beat the England first team with, ignoring that it takes a decade or more for those changes to come fruition. Now we have the most exciting crop of youngsters in world football making their way through our youth teams and into first team football. Rashford and Kane kind of lead the way in that regarding.Kane does have games where his link up play is very good and actually can pick a through ball very well. The problem is he also has games where if his team isn't on top, he offers absolutely nothing at all.
You can't say that about the likes of Sterling or Rashford who will be making runs, carrying the ball or if they have to dropping back to pick the ball up straight from the defence.
Kane just doesn't have the mobility for that. At the moment obviously it's not a factor as you'd just be bonkers not to play him.
Say in 3 years though, if Rashford has continued to improve, Sterling is still at the same level or better, and one of the younger crop reaches the kind of level Rashford is at now. Then you have a problem...albeit a good problem.
What rubbish some people spout.If we had a swap deal with Rashford going our way and Tammy going your way then United would be by far the happier of the two.
That TA goal against Arsenal yesterday is precisely what I was referring as CF playing his back to the goal. That makes a no. 9 really lethal in the box. I wish Rashford and Martial develop that skill. Although I feel Greenwood is best suited to perform like that. But somehow the staff is happy playing him on right.Martial is very good with his back to goal.
Martial has done plenty of that in him, remember that goal v Southampton away in his first year? vs. VVD tooThat TA goal against Arsenal yesterday is precisely what I was referring as CF playing his back to the goal. That makes a no. 9 really lethal in the box. I wish Rashford and Martial develop that skill. Although I feel Greenwood is best suited to perform like that. But somehow the staff is happy playing him on right.
That TA goal against Arsenal yesterday is precisely what I was referring as CF playing his back to the goal. That makes a no. 9 really lethal in the box. I wish Rashford and Martial develop that skill. Although I feel Greenwood is best suited to perform like that. But somehow the staff is happy playing him on right.
Lukaku has that in him but his first touch is hopeless.
Not only do I prefer Rashford to Tammy, I prefer Martial as a CF to him, too. So, imo, it'd be a terrible deal for us.We've got plenty of decent players who can play in Rashford's position whilst you have no proper #9. It's not mental, it's obvious.
He isn't ready to lead the line, he is physically too weak to play CF role. He is having very good season playing as right winger. Its better with him facing the goal than back to the goal.Forget TA, rashford comparison. I genuinely feel Greenwood is the missing piece in the attacking no. 9 puzzle. It is injustice to the young lad that he is forced to play on right because of martial. The boy is two footed, with literally no weak foot. It is preposterous that he is stuck on the right when he can be much lethal in the middle as no. 9.
If we had a swap deal with Rashford going our way and Tammy going your way then United would be by far the happier of the two.
Abraham has real potential as an all round striker. Martial and Rashford are more goal scorers than anything. Maybe Rashford can be more but I believe Tammy has the bigger potential of the three as an all round striker.Not only do I prefer Rashford to Tammy, I prefer Martial as a CF to him, too. So, imo, it'd be a terrible deal for us.
Its the other way around. Rashford and Martial are more than just goal scorers.Abraham has real potential as an all round striker. Martial and Rashford are more goal scorers than anything. Maybe Rashford can be more but I believe Tammy has the bigger potential of the three as an all round striker.
I think you're doing both Martial and Rashford a disservice by labelling them as goal scorers more than anything. Martial's general play as a CF is top notch. He can hold the ball up, create chances on his own through his dribbling, can create chances for others when dropping deep, etc. I definitely prefer him to Tammy as a CF. He has it all, imo. He just needs to work on his intensity.Abraham has real potential as an all round striker. Martial and Rashford are more goal scorers than anything. Maybe Rashford can be more but I believe Tammy has the bigger potential of the three as an all round striker.
Rashford did score against Burnley in open playLooks like it's one nil to me after my swap post considering Tammy scored against Arsenal and Rashford didn't against Burnley (pens don't count).
...but Rashford DID score a non-penalty against Burnley. Are you trying to bamboozle us?Looks like it's one nil to me after my swap post considering Tammy scored against Arsenal and Rashford didn't against Burnley (pens don't count).
Rashford did score against Burnley in open play
Ah feck....but Rashford DID score a non-penalty against Burnley. Are you trying to bamboozle us?
you took it too farLooks like it's one nil to me after my swap post considering Tammy scored against Arsenal and Rashford didn't against Burnley (pens don't count).
Say what? TA can only dream to have Rashford all round play let alone MartialAbraham has real potential as an all round striker. Martial and Rashford are more goal scorers than anything. Maybe Rashford can be more but I believe Tammy has the bigger potential of the three as an all round striker.
Hahha! Shittest wum of the day.Ah feck.
First wum post didn't work so trying another .... without checking facts too.Looks like it's one nil to me after my swap post considering Tammy scored against Arsenal and Rashford didn't against Burnley (pens don't count).
He was working with scraps for a lot of yesterday's game though in fairness. Chelsea just didnt get the ball to him and ge doesn't seem like a player who can drop deep to influence a game. Anyway this seems a weird comparison. Totally different positions now, rashford seems to have really nailed down the wide attacking role.Abraham was hardly great yesterday. Had chelsea lost or even drawn there would have been a different reaction. I will be honest, I do not see anything special in Abraham right now. He is no drogba, more like a young Lukaku. Now he may develop and become more lethal and better technically but so far I don't see that and hence will not swap him for Martial let alone Rashford.
Totally agree. I think Chelsea will upgrade him.Abraham was hardly great yesterday. Had chelsea lost or even drawn there would have been a different reaction. I will be honest, I do not see anything special in Abraham right now. He is no drogba, more like a young Lukaku. Now he may develop and become more lethal and better technically but so far I don't see that and hence will not swap him for Martial let alone Rashford.
Even this season, particularly the goal against CityMartial has done plenty of that in him, remember that goal v Southampton away in his first year? vs. VVD too
Mate, he's been pretty lethal already out wide where he's got time and space to turn a man and get his ridiculous shots off, he's better out there than trying to play hold up against two grown men in the middle. Martial is much better suited to that role at the minute.Forget TA, rashford comparison. I genuinely feel Greenwood is the missing piece in the attacking no. 9 puzzle. It is injustice to the young lad that he is forced to play on right because of martial. The boy is two footed, with literally no weak foot. It is preposterous that he is stuck on the right when he can be much lethal in the middle as no. 9.