Now the USA attacks Iran. Thank you Obama, thank you Ole. Son's crying now happy new year.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Yes that's when I went firmly in the Ole out camp. That result was unacceptable. Saying that most of our losses are unacceptable. We recently lost to Watford who are rock bottom of the Premier league and had only won 1 game. We recently lost to Arsenal who were 15 games without a win. Old Ole is the man who keeps on giving right.
Exactly this. After 12 months in charge. I respect Ole in brigade. They have opinion and i respect that but how Ole fans can't see that he is not doing good job?
Every single our game is the same. Give the ball to Rashford and Martial and let them to do something against deep defence or if other team plays attacking then we try to play on James like in FIFA. Give him ball and then he runs 50 m down the flank.
Last month or two i keep reading posts which are repeating the same lies over and over again.
1) Shit squad. Our squad is not shit. It is not world class but it is space shuttle for Watford, WH, Saints, Newcastle, SU, Bournemouth and other midtable and low table clubs which took points from us and some even dominated us whole game.
2) Selling deadwood. Except Darmian, Ole didn't sold deadwood. Lukaku, Alexis, Fellaini and Smalling are not deadwood. Not saying that selling them was bad move but Jones and Lingard are real deadwood. Pereira, Matic, Mata and Young are close to that. But they are all here.
3) Playing kids. Ole doesn't play kids much more than Jose or especially Lvg did. I am not obsessed with playing kids but when you take that as his plus then lets talk about it; he still prefers Lingard over Gomes and Greenwood despite he could have install them long time ago in first 11 and play them. In general only Williams and Greenwood are two kids who got a chance. Others got some minutes in irrelevant games like they would get under any manager.
4) Attacking football. He is not playing attacking football. He is more defensive than Mourinho.
5) Bought excellent players. Players that he bought did not upgraded squad much. They are not flops but that money we could have spent better. Defence is leaking goals the same as did last year.
6) Results. Results are shambolic. 8 wins in 21 game is our worst start ever in PL era. And reason for sacking.
7) "He didn't have other solution" phrase. Match preparation and his tactical decisions during the games are awful. Wrong lineups, always the same 4231 formation which obviously doesn't work, waits too long to change things. If something is awful after 45 minutes, why wait another 15-20 minutes? If you don't have no10, play 352 or 433. If other team is creating chance after chance, do something ffs. Change something. Be a manager. Football game is not pick 11, pick formation and see you after 90 minutes.
Only thing what he is building here is midtable club. If we give him time and money he will build that. Longstaff and Rice are his targets. Seriously?
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Absolute Puppet look at today's presser, we are done.....
Safe to say no one is coming in. He is relying on the likes of Fosu Mensah coming back (who we will no doubt see tried in DM)
Yep, I get Jan is difficult to sign players but one more injury to a forward and more importantly a midfielder and we are fecked. Irrespective of people's thoughts about Fred, he is currently being overplayed and another injury is around the corner.....Safe to say no one is coming in. He is relying on the likes of Fosu Mensah coming back (who we will no doubt see tried in DM)
This is an amazing stat:
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As the man himself said, as long as we lose only once a month, we are golden. That's our aim as a club.
Ole.... It's time to go. It's time...... to go!
Only 12 losses a year then.
I seen that during the game and I have to say it made me chuckle. Looked like he was waving to his gran on the other side of the pitch.
In fairness, judging game by game is going to make you crazy as a fan. Every time we fail to win it feels bad, every loss feels awful. We've got better as the season has gone on though. Since the October internationals we have won 11, drawn 4 and lost 4. League only is won 6, drawn 4 and lost 3.
I just hope we have plenty more green on there by 17th Feb when we play Chelsea.. That will mean we likely have a cup final, a fight for top four and are possibly still in the FA cup. If not, it might just be Europa League or bust.
Agreed. Whatever else is going on, that’s the only real way to judge where we are right now.
It’s mental, isn’t it? The fact that there are many who still haven’t had the penny drop. Crazy.
If they aren't giving him any cash this January I think that shows that his future is definitely not certain. No way are they going to throw another £100m at him and then sack him within 3-6 months.
We will soldier on with no new signings and maybe a loan or two at most and Poch will takeover in June.
We will soldier on with no new signings and maybe a loan or two at most and Poch will takeover in June.
This thread will have at least 1000 pages by the time he's sacked
That doesn't include his interim run, that's only full time results.
There's enough shit to beat the manager with at the moment, lets not use misleading stats to make stuff up as well.
Damn son, lemme have a dream will ya?
Not backing him this month means he'll be sacked before the end of the season.
The only thing we've got is financial muscle and we're deliberately choosing not to use it. We've spent a lot of money on the wrong players over the years and now we're just deciding not to spend instead? How fecking hard is it to buy the correct players for the team you want? It's almost like we don't have a fecking clue what we're doing and have decided against appointing a DOF despite that being the correct thing to do...
Could be lots of reasons.
1. Our targets might be looking at us and thinking 'No thanks'
2. They (Glazers) could be looking to sell the club and don't want to over invest. Would make sense. Why would you keep pumping millions in if you're looking for a buyer / the right sale price.
3. We still owe quite a lot of money from previous transfer deals we're still paying off and we're not in the CL. That will definitely decrease the budget.
And there are other reasons too. None of us know for sure what's going on.
It should have had thread marks. Would have liked to jump to pages of previous matches. Shame.
When people say there isn't a plan they tend to mean there isn't a plan or capability in the manager that's good enough to take is to the top. Even Moyes had a plan. But either the plan or the man implementing it was wank.
And no, this squad IS better than what we are seeing. It's the same difference you'd see in the same team managed by Big Sam and SAF/Pep. Unless we genuinely believe is a top top manager. And who really believes that? He's done nothing to prove that to anybody.
It's the way, mate – use permanent role stats to prove how bad he is and use interim stats to prove it was new manager bounce
The more I think about it, the more I don't want us to spend any money until ole, glazers/ed have gone.
What's the point of spending if the people spending haven't got a clue?
Rather save it up for the right manager/DoF team to invest wisely.
Pathetic management.
Nothing misleading about it. It's only correct to point out that absymal statistic. If a team loses 20 PL games on the bounce nobody would begrudge the media from citing that form /run begging for the prior form to also be included.
Chemical Ole.
I'd be hugely surprised if he's still the manager on August 1st.
Maybe my english, but are you saying the manager, OGS, does not have a plan? Then, do you really belive that? A $3-4billion company, apoints a manager, after three failed ones and goes, hey, novice, you go right ahead, do as you please.
In a league where Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and some would argue City are all struggeling. You are saying this squad, MUFC's squad, is good enough to do better then what we've seen?
Genuine question for you @e.cantona, do you honestly believe Fergie or Klopp wouldn't be on more than 8 wins in 21 with this side?
Ole is doing a fantastic job. He worked miracles after taking over from Jose, who left us in a terrible state. He just needs time. You can't possibly expect him to get top 4 without 4 or 5 transfer windows.
He's like Dutch Van Der Linde, he has a plan, he just needs time and money. Where is your god damn faith?
He's like Dutch Van Der Linde, he has a plan, he just needs time and money. Where is your god damn faith?
Yes, I believe OGS does not have a plan, 12 months in charge and there is no style.
Doesn't matter the size of the company if people who are in charge are not good enough, the company will fail.
Spurs cannot be counted as one of the big teams, they have only recently come onto the block.
So you can mention clubs like Chelsea who have had transfer ban, City who have won 2 titles in 2 years but how about Wolves, Sheffield and the like?
Really? What period was this? 500 mins! No open play goal in 5 and a half games?
Yeah people do not understand it needs to get worse before it gets better. Cardiff was wrong to sack him since he would have taken them to new levels with time. At Molde it worked well since they gave him time.
If we just clear the deadwood and play with our academy players things will work fine. He has already started the process.
Lingard is not deadwood though since he is one of our own so he should always start. Also we should spend huge money on overrated players in order to raise confidence for our academy players. When they see how bad the rest in our team is they will raise the level to get a spot in the side.
Worked with all our youths so far so let's keep faith!
Honest answer. SAF, I dont know. Probably better. Maybe not. Klopp? I don't think he would. Maybe.. May be I would do a better job. I doubt it. But maybe..
It was when we played Barcelona, City, Everton, West Ham right?
Where is your god damn faith? Ole has a plan. He just needs time and money. Tahiti.
There you go, delusion at it finest.
And that's why some fans will never see sense, they think managing is unimportant.
I have to repeat this here, we have a poster here claiming Sir Alex Ferguson or Jörgen Klopp would maybe not, or not, do a better job than OGS at United this season.
I had faith, he has had 12 months, how much time does he realistically need?
The reason I lose faith is every 2/3 performances there is always one where we look lost, out of sorts and out run. This has been going on since Everton last year, Cardiff, Huddersfield then into this year at Southampton, Bournemouth, West Ham, Watford, Arsenal, Newcastle.
Ole has a strange approach! Even the untouchable SAF showed anger, stress and frustration. He'd sometimes bollock the team even after a win if it wasn't convincing!
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