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Now the USA attacks Iran. Thank you Obama, thank you Ole. Son's crying now happy new year.
Yes that's when I went firmly in the Ole out camp. That result was unacceptable. Saying that most of our losses are unacceptable. We recently lost to Watford who are rock bottom of the Premier league and had only won 1 game. We recently lost to Arsenal who were 15 games without a win. Old Ole is the man who keeps on giving right.I think the perfect time for sacking him after Newcastle defeat away. We had a 2 weeks international break and we had a good enough time to sack and appoint another manager early in the season. However we didn't.
For the moment it kinda feel pointless to sack with Jan transfer window beginning and of course the more we go into the season the more it becomes pointless.
So I guess best option currently is to let him finish the season. It's probably a write off anyway, with such thread thin skin I doubt we will finish 4th or win EL. Let him finish the season then appoint Poch in summer.
Exactly this. After 12 months in charge. I respect Ole in brigade. They have opinion and i respect that but how Ole fans can't see that he is not doing good job?Our defence is never organised. Our press is never organised. We have no pattern to our attack.
It is simply sit back, hope the other team come forward and leave space behind, win the ball and hit it up to the forwards and hope they can make it stick.
Safe to say no one is coming in. He is relying on the likes of Fosu Mensah coming back (who we will no doubt see tried in DM)Absolute Puppet look at today's presser, we are done.....
Yep, I get Jan is difficult to sign players but one more injury to a forward and more importantly a midfielder and we are fecked. Irrespective of people's thoughts about Fred, he is currently being overplayed and another injury is around the corner.....Safe to say no one is coming in. He is relying on the likes of Fosu Mensah coming back (who we will no doubt see tried in DM)
Only 12 losses a year then.As the man himself said, as long as we lose only once a month, we are golden. That's our aim as a club.
I seen that during the game and I have to say it made me chuckle. Looked like he was waving to his gran on the other side of the pitch.Tweet
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In fairness, judging game by game is going to make you crazy as a fan. Every time we fail to win it feels bad, every loss feels awful. We've got better as the season has gone on though. Since the October internationals we have won 11, drawn 4 and lost 4. League only is won 6, drawn 4 and lost 3.As the man himself said, as long as we lose only once a month, we are golden. That's our aim as a club.
Agreed. Whatever else is going on, that’s the only real way to judge where we are right now.If he wasn't a former player, he'd be long gone. I'd bet my life on it.
These stats are unacceptable. Completely unacceptable.
That doesn't include his interim run, that's only full time results.This is an amazing stat:Tweet
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Damn son, lemme have a dream will ya?Dont kid yourself, we all know next one will pull out good old "clean slate for everyone, to prove themself" line before pre season starts or when ever. Like every single one before done it.
Not backing him this month means he'll be sacked before the end of the season.If they aren't giving him any cash this January I think that shows that his future is definitely not certain. No way are they going to throw another £100m at him and then sack him within 3-6 months.
We will soldier on with no new signings and maybe a loan or two at most and Poch will takeover in June.
Could be lots of reasons.Not backing him this month means he'll be sacked before the end of the season.
The only thing we've got is financial muscle and we're deliberately choosing not to use it. We've spent a lot of money on the wrong players over the years and now we're just deciding not to spend instead? How fecking hard is it to buy the correct players for the team you want? It's almost like we don't have a fecking clue what we're doing and have decided against appointing a DOF despite that being the correct thing to do...
It should have had thread marks. Would have liked to jump to pages of previous matches. Shame.This thread will have at least 1000 pages by the time he's sacked
When people say there isn't a plan they tend to mean there isn't a plan or capability in the manager that's good enough to take is to the top. Even Moyes had a plan. But either the plan or the man implementing it was wank.Possibly. But what I belive myself to be doing is trying really hard to see the other side. Ole out, it's clear as day, he's not fit to be our manager, he has no plan, Lingard, Lukaku and Smalling, Cardiff, he said this and that, etc, etc.
There's obviously a plan. Re signings, style of play, youth, squad, probably communication even. The 'Ole out's' on here can most likely guess on the type of players we're looking to sign for this team. And who is most likely not to be a part of the team come next season. You/they might not agree on every player we in the end buy or sell, but there seem to be a plan in place.
This squad is not better then what we see. He should play Matic more? Or Mata, Jones, some prospect? Lingard should not play? Sure, that might all be. There will always be something not good enough. We should not have sold X player without replaceing him. Sure. Maybe. I don't know who makes that final decission. I'm guessing not one person alone. I wish we had better players right now as well.
May be in the end he is not the man for the job. But from what I have seen so far, from very good to very bad, I can not say that OGS is the reason we are not doing better. He and the club has to rectify many mistakes been done before OGS was given the job.
It's the way, mate – use permanent role stats to prove how bad he is and use interim stats to prove it was new manager bounceThat doesn't include his interim run, that's only full time results.
There's enough shit to beat the manager with at the moment, lets not use misleading stats to make stuff up as well.
The more I think about it, the more I don't want us to spend any money until ole, glazers/ed have gone.Could be lots of reasons.
1. Our targets might be looking at us and thinking 'No thanks'
2. They (Glazers) could be looking to sell the club and don't want to over invest. Would make sense. Why would you keep pumping millions in if you're looking for a buyer / the right sale price.
3. We still owe quite a lot of money from previous transfer deals we're still paying off and we're not in the CL. That will definitely decrease the budget.
And there are other reasons too. None of us know for sure what's going on.
Pathetic management.This is an amazing stat:Tweet
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Nothing misleading about it. It's only correct to point out that absymal statistic. If a team loses 20 PL games on the bounce nobody would begrudge the media from citing that form /run begging for the prior form to also be included.That doesn't include his interim run, that's only full time results.
There's enough shit to beat the manager with at the moment, lets not use misleading stats to make stuff up as well.
Chemical Ole.the way he was waving and smiling straight after the whistle, what is it now 5 wins in 21?
Maybe my english, but are you saying the manager, OGS, does not have a plan? Then, do you really belive that? A $3-4billion company, apoints a manager, after three failed ones and goes, hey, novice, you go right ahead, do as you please.When people say there isn't a plan they tend to mean there isn't a plan or capability in the manager that's good enough to take is to the top. Even Moyes had a plan. But either the plan or the man implementing it was wank.
And no, this squad IS better than what we are seeing. It's the same difference you'd see in the same team managed by Big Sam and SAF/Pep. Unless we genuinely believe is a top top manager. And who really believes that? He's done nothing to prove that to anybody.
Genuine question for you @e.cantona, do you honestly believe Fergie or Klopp wouldn't be on more than 8 wins in 21 with this side?In a league where Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and some would argue City are all struggeling. You are saying this squad, MUFC's squad, is good enough to do better then what we've seen?
Yes, I believe OGS does not have a plan, 12 months in charge and there is no style.Maybe my english, but are you saying the manager, OGS, does not have a plan? Then, do you really belive that? A $3-4billion company, apoints a manager, after three failed ones and goes, hey, novice, you go right ahead, do as you please.
In a league where Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and some would argue City are all struggeling. You are saying this squad, MUFC's squad, is good enough to do better then what we've seen?
Really? What period was this? 500 mins! No open play goal in 5 and a half games?United had never gone 500 minutes without scoring from open play until...Solskjaer.
United have never gathered under 30 points in the PL era by Boxing Day until... Solskjaer.
United had won their last 4 matches to open a new calendar year until...Solskjaer.
Since getting the job full-time, Ole Gunnar Solskajer's win rate at Manchester United is just 29.5%.
Ole Trivia.
Yeah people do not understand it needs to get worse before it gets better. Cardiff was wrong to sack him since he would have taken them to new levels with time. At Molde it worked well since they gave him time.Ole is doing a fantastic job. He worked miracles after taking over from Jose, who left us in a terrible state. He just needs time. You can't possibly expect him to get top 4 without 4 or 5 transfer windows.
He's like Dutch Van Der Linde, he has a plan, he just needs time and money. Have faith.
Honest answer. SAF, I dont know. Probably better. Maybe not. Klopp? I don't think he would. Maybe.. May be I would do a better job. I doubt it. But maybe..Genuine question for you @e.cantona, do you honestly believe Fergie or Klopp wouldn't be on more than 8 wins in 21 with this side?
It was when we played Barcelona, City, Everton, West Ham right?Really? What period was this? 500 mins! No open play goal in 5 and a half games?
Where is your god damn faith? Ole has a plan. He just needs time and money. Tahiti.Yes, I believe OGS does not have a plan, 12 months in charge and there is no style.
Doesn't matter the size of the company if people who are in charge are not good enough, the company will fail.
Spurs cannot be counted as one of the big teams, they have only recently come onto the block.
So you can mention clubs like Chelsea who have had transfer ban, City who have won 2 titles in 2 years but how about Wolves, Sheffield and the like?
There you go, delusion at it finest.Honest answer. SAF, I dont know. Probably better. Maybe not. Klopp? I don't think he would.
I had faith, he has had 12 months, how much time does he realistically need?Where is your god damn faith? Ole has a plan. He just needs time and money. Tahiti.
Ole has a strange approach! Even the untouchable SAF showed anger, stress and frustration. He'd sometimes bollock the team even after a win if it wasn't convincing!He doesn't come across nearly as stressed as he should do. I suppose thats what happens when you know you're very safe in your job.