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feck sake.
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ThisTough decision. Could've gone either way imo, which makes it easier to give to the champ
Being the aggressor only counts when no one is doing damage.Sorry Reyes, not enough to deserve to win on the scorecards when you’re fighting for the title. Jones was the aggressor all fight, didn’t look hurt too much.
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He took the loss like a champ. Better than me for sure haha. But yeah I agree he might not be happy when finally catches up with the tape.I was so impressed with Reyes strength and stamina. Standing up from those takedowns late on.
He kept busy, stayed aggressive and executed a really good game plan. He did enough to win that fight and landed the more meaningful strikes in the first three rounds.
George called it earlier. He lost those first three rounds and needed a finish from that point on. Reyes stayed in it and kept those rounds competitive. If you do enough, you do enough, champion or not.
When Reyes watches that back, he will feel hard done by.
100%.Isnt octagon control, aggression etc only applicable when everything is dead even?
Reyes clearly outstruck him for the first 3 rounds. Its hard to say Jon won any of them when they kept it standing and Reyes didnt suffer any damage.
He outstruck him over the first 3 rounds and looked to be the clear winner of those.Did Reyes do enough to deserve to call himself the champion of the world, and dethrone one of the best fighters in the sports history? No, but he gave A great account of himself and more than earned a rematch.
He probably did but it’s understandable that the champ would get the benefit of the doubt.Did Reyes do enough to deserve to call himself the champion of the world, and dethrone one of the best fighters in the sports history? No, but he gave A great account of himself and more than earned a rematch.
Yes, he did, hence why it's being so hotly debated right now. It's the culture to leave it out of the judges' hands because people know they're highly unreliable, but redundant questions about Jones' status and legacy don't change the fact that Reyes can easily claim to have won that fight.Did Reyes do enough to deserve to call himself the champion of the world, and dethrone one of the best fighters in the sports history? No, but he gave A great account of himself and more than earned a rematch.
3 was very close. By that time Reyes had slowed down and Jones started to put more pressure on him.He outstruck him over the first 3 rounds and looked to be the clear winner of those.
It shouldn’t matter who Jones is. The joke of a 49-46 card just goes to show that it clearly does in this case.
For me, the pressure was Reyes choosing to counter punch by that stage, which he did to good effect and kept Jones smart. He had every reason to believe he was up on the cards.3 was very close. By that time Reyes had slowed down and Jones started to put more pressure on him.
Completely agree with this.If they're going to give extra points to whoever is champion or whoever has a bigger reputation then they should add that to the rules. Reyes won that 3-2, even Jones clearly knew it.
Tough to say but this is exactly why I have a big question mark over his career because he hasn't been as explosive since the PED results and all the other stuff. There's no doubt Jones is.a great talent but there's now always going to be a question mark over his head as to whether he was gaining a huge advantage in the past with PEDs.49-46 was obviously ridiculous, but that judge aside these close calls normally go way of the champ, it is what it is.
What's up with Jones though? Age catching up with him a little or is he just coasting now? He just seems to be scraping through fights. You can almost guarantee if he was in with a DC or Gus you would see a different fighter.
Pretty much.Tough decision. Could've gone either way imo, which makes it easier to give to the champ
Maybe heavyweight means he puts more focus in, but yeah, its a big risk given his last couple of fights.Tough to say but this is exactly why I have a big question mark over his career because he hasn't been as explosive since the PED results and all the other stuff. There's no doubt Jones is.a great talent but there's now always going to be a question mark over his head as to whether he was gaining a huge advantage in the past with PEDs.
I still think he needs to go up to Heavyweight at this stage. Two close fights with Reyes and Santos might stop that happening anytime soon though.
Find it a bit baffling how drug cheats are often given a pass among MMA fans, in terms of how they and their legacies are assessed.More like USADA catching up with him.
Even they can only accept so much pulsing.
Learned that the hard way with Lance in cycling. They swore until they were blue in the face that he was clean and just an intense, motivated guy. When it came out that he wasn't, the argument immediately switched to how much he had done for charity and raising awareness, as if that was somehow relevant.Find it a bit baffling how drug cheats are often given a pass among MMA fans, in terms of how they and their legacies are assessed.