of course they will. the only point of the lockdowns is to ensure health services are not overwhelmed, that's it. once the first 'peak' is dealt with, the lockdown will slowly be eased.
Pretty sure the likes of Germany/USA are manufacturing them in house. And isn't the test itself, just a swab analysed in a lab?
it would be interesting to see how many they manufacture themselves, but even still, the point remains i think. particularly within the EU if Germany is essentially testing everyone they can while other EU countries are struggling to even test their health workers.
I'm speaking more from the perspective of my country to be honest. Our health system is overwhelmed with 300 cases per day, we will have no sophisticated programs to test & trace anytime soon and we went into lockdowns while having 10 cases per day. Half of the country think the goal of lockdowns is to bring the count of cases to 0 and remove the virus completely from society. There's no light at the end of this tunnel, we've gone too far into the panic mode. That's why our government is rushing to have election on 10 May, they want to win while they can because country is going to be in so much chaos soon that they won't win ever again.
Isn't the number of tests also limited to the capacity of the laboratories in the country/region? I guess with new and easier test kits developed soon, that might change. In most media reports in Germany the number of possible tests was always linked to what the laboratories can do. The test kits alone are worthless if they end up in an endloss queue before actually being analysed. Maybe there is a possibility to share ressources in labarotires between countries, but I guess that isn't easy to realise and possibly won't give you quick enough results to act swiftly when necessary.
We make the tests in the UK if anybody had the ability to stockpile them it was us but we faffed around saying we need to make sure they work, no test is better than a bad test and everybody else brought them up before testing them to make sure they work. So now we're left with limited tests.
From what I know, the real bottleneck in the test is the lab capacity to analyse the samples. Unless countries start shipping off the samples to Germany to get them analysed, they won't be able to help. Germany have just been much better than most others to increase lab capacity.
That's exactly the issue. In the case of France the initial problem was the amount of labs with the authorisation to make that type of tests but also the reception of potentially infected people in a safe environment, in town labs. The first point is an administrative failure that has been quickly fixed since but from my point of view the quickness with which the ARS managed to accredit new labs makes me think that it was an unnecessary hurddle in the first place.
Until/unless the country runs out of ventilators you can't say that with any conviction. So far we are keeping ahead of the pace of the infection in terms of available beds.
Yup, one of the 19 producers is a Franco-british company that produces the kits in the UK.
Sounds awfully familiar
While the peak is happening of course but give it a few months the number of cases will be dramatically lower and normal life can start to resume. Will there be a second wave and further restrictions? Very possible I'd say.
Yes but the memories of the next month or so will be fresh enough to act as reinforcement. If we have to go into another full scale lockdown, I think it will have been a failure of the system.
It is. He's not wrong but it's got nowt to do with his and America's failings.
I really hope the light at the end of the tunnel is being able to go on holiday to France in August! Time will tell.
I think you’re in denial about how impossible that would be.
@spiriticon I mean, do we just ignore that we have twice the population of Denmark? And that our worst hit areas (Stockholm & Copenhagen) pretty much follow that pattern?
Yep, that's been government policy on many things. If we can get away with doing nothing by making doing something sound worse then we are quids in.
I refuse to watch that. Is it as the title suggests? Farage suggesting that we should not be accepting the government telling us to socially isolate at home?
2000 Swedish doctors and scientists signed a petition saying Sweden path was leading them to catastrophe? Youre being very loose with the way you frame your points imo.
Edited that for you.
I want to add that Norway has only 40 deaths so far. We have been at 1/5 of sweden approximately, and 1/2 nr. of people. Main difference might be that Norway has been among the best in the world at testing. We have tested 2% of the population so far, approx 100,000 people.
@cyberman link pal?
Agreed. This public shaming seems to be a UK thing though. I haven't seen this here in Germany unless people literally go it in groups or have parties. Although the rules might be stricter in the UK (we don't have that excercise once a day thing). I usually go out twice a day and from what I can see people are following the social distancing guidelines. There is a reason governments avoid using the word lockdown and call it restrictions or something.
Oh Norway has been miles better at testing no doubt. But the deaths show us nothing so far due to the lag.
I can't see lockdown lasting longer than June here (UK). Social distancing rules are most likely to continue up until autumn.
Hard to compare, yes. agree with you there! Although as I said, skiresorts were our main problem. The ones in Austria and Italy. So large gatherings is a key factor in many places. Like Bergamo and the football match. So in my opinion, we will not know in Sweden yet due to the ones that travelled to/from Åre, and also those who went out partying at pubs in various cities that might have started new chains of infections at exponential rates for a while until the more strict measures were taken.
This is an excellent point. I located an old paper here and quickly looking at it in Fig. 3, yes, droplets can evapourate very quickly. I also found another paper here with similar conclusions. It is important to stress that these results appear to be for pure liquid water (I'd need to check more closely).
The fig.8 is shown here:
So it seems what happens is that there is a droplet with some solid content, the liquid content is evapourated, leaving a solid particle core. I'm guessing the solid particle is very small and if it is, then yes, the particles could well be suspended for considerable time.
Yeah, mine were like that from aggressive hand washing. Hand cream helped hugely - as well as lockdown, meaning that I haven't been going outside as much.
Sweden also has over twice the population that Ireland does though, which skews per capita stats:
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Agreed.
Amen.
