Grim but the truth.
Funny as well when the newsanchor asked him what we coould do to prevent another peak and he kind of laughed and said there is nothing you can do. Another peak is a certainty.
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Funny as well when the newsanchor asked him what we coould do to prevent another peak and he kind of laughed and said there is nothing you can do. Another peak is a certainty.
Seems so. The one who is looking into this simulation is having a laugh.
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When Whitty spoke on Wednesday, it was the first time anyone at the briefings had made clear that strong social distancing measures would be in place all year. Too much of the media coverage and political briefings leave hope that we might get a relatively normal summer and at one of these reviews, Johnson, Raab or Hancock will announce life can return to normal.
As much as many of us who are well read on the subject feel that it is obvious that 2020 will be a year hopefully like no other, on Monday I had a more senior member of staff in my NHS team wanting us managers to begin discussing plans on our phased returned to the office and another more senior colleague who couldn't bring herself to read a Guardian article on the briefing, as she found the concept too upsetting. Most of the country is in denial or oblivious to the fact that anyone who can work remotely will likely do so for most, if not all, of 2020 and the winter months of 2021, and that we won't be watching United at Old Trafford in that time either.
Dont forget the gum too.
The guy from the netflix documentary Pandemic was saying he had an anti-body drug that could work. If you google it. It wont be available for a while though. Jacob Glanville is his name.
edit: https://www.irishmirror.ie/tv/netflix-pandemic-doctor-believes-hes-21799761
The one today on testing was good although again I don't see much point in showing the graphs everyday now people have got into the lockdown habit.
Have to say though really this press conference announcing better roll out of testing should've been happening 2-3 weeks ago.
Journalists bar some good ones from the local news just keep on asking the same questions about when lockdown is ending.
I think that we need to stop doing this to ourselves. So many coulds, mays maybes etc while not many genuinely unexpected things have happened for a month plus... Things have pretty much been going as predicted - slow and depressing.
I haven't slept for more than four hours in two+ weeks. I am not sure how I manage to stay functional, given that I manage a team of 10 software engineers and have two small kids (2-year-old and 2-month-old). I am shattered each evening, but then start reading news, hoping to breakthroughs, get upset, somehow manage to fall asleep around 4-5 AM, wake up around 7 and repeat. And in all this time, despite trying to twist stats and researches in any way possible, I am yet to find anything to suggest that the end game in not this lasting until well into the next year and the majority of us getting infected.
I might at least help myself by not following all the news, but I cannot stop myself.
At least I still have those Oxford guys who hope for a September vaccine to hold onto.
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The mortality rate once on a ventilator from the initial tracking in NYC during March and very early April was 86% . That's basically a death sentence if it got to ventilator stage.
Edit - the study doesn't include patients who were still in hospital at the end date, so the survival rates would be higher overall, but still that's shocking.
https://arstechnica.com/science/202...utcomes-of-covid-19-patients-in-ny-hospitals/
Edit - the study doesn't include patients who were still in hospital at the end date, so the survival rates would be higher overall, but still that's shocking.
https://arstechnica.com/science/202...utcomes-of-covid-19-patients-in-ny-hospitals/
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Poland as well and Eastern countries in general I think. I’ve known several flat earthers here. All thought I was a complete moron for believing NASA. Apparently being a flat earther proves you have your own brain and can think independently.
This I still have not encountered in real life.
What's their background? Are you sure they sre not just claiming to believe it in order to stand out?
One is a guy I worked with, data scientist at my previous company. Not exactly a thick person otherwise. Another is a guy from my university, he always got easily excited about different things. He was going to be a billionaire one day because he purchased DasCoin. He believes every single conspiracy theory out there without exception. Others have been people I knew briefly, mostly through other people.
Yep, remember you mentioning that your brother is anti-vaxer too.
It could be a problem of the education system (like @Hound Dog mentioned), that people are taught more to memorize rather than develop critical thinking. And then with people who are not very educated (or are wrongly educated *), add social media there, and no surprise to see the number of people who believe in conspirative theories.
* I mean, I had to memorize entire poetry when I was in the school. The most annoying thing ever and absolutely despised that. While at the same time, the biology teacher skipped the part on sexual organs cause he was uncomfortable speaking about that. He did the evolution part, at least. I guess in Serbia and Poland the education system should be quite better than in Kosovo, but the basis is probably the same (as in most ex-communist countries). Obedience and memorization instead of critical thinking.
Elizabeth Warren's brother died from coronavirus.
feck it, let 'em go for it. It's like fecking Logan's Run!
"Construction and manufacturing are likely to be at the forefront of a phased return that would be based on a traffic-light system, particularly given the pressure from Conservative MPs"
What are they talking about ? Construction and manufacturing never stopped.
Young people can spread infection as fast or even faster than older people, even if they don't die very often.
Australia is inching close to elimination with only a handful of new cases yesterday depite testing being ramped up even further.
The NRL is due to start again behind closed doors in a months time. Schools never closed, but most kids stayed home unless their parents were essential workers, and are now planning a phased return to the classroom. Most shops didn't close but pubs and restaurants will remain closed or take away only for some time. And until the rest of the world gets to a much better place our borders are going to have to remain locked down. Inter-state restrictions may be able to be lifted sooner though.
The NRL is due to start again behind closed doors in a months time. Schools never closed, but most kids stayed home unless their parents were essential workers, and are now planning a phased return to the classroom. Most shops didn't close but pubs and restaurants will remain closed or take away only for some time. And until the rest of the world gets to a much better place our borders are going to have to remain locked down. Inter-state restrictions may be able to be lifted sooner though.
Yeah good point. Even if they've correctly modelled the specific average of each long-term condition (LTC), there's still a distribution to the severity of each specific LTC. It is logical that COVID-19 deaths are sampling from the tail of these distributions. I'm not sure it's even possible to control for that, broadly-speaking.
Any way you calculate it the vague notion that "Oh well most of them would have died very soon anyway" is rubbish. We are trying calculate how many years are lost, not how many days or weeks, as seems to be the mindset of those who think the old aren't giving up much by taking one for the team (or whatever the mindset is).
One of the women actually working closely with the work says she's confident maybe around September.
I won't get my hopes up as a lot can go wrong but she wouldn't give that type of timeline if she wasn't relitevely confident, especially with the public actively searching for a scapegoat.
What do you think of the advice about 1.5m or 2m spacing? Obviously there is still risk at those distances but how much do you think it reduces the risk? Is it appropriate advice?
Nutters will nut.
This is quite possible the single stupidest thing I've ever read on RedCafe. And I've seen a "climate change expert" who didn't realize he was reading a graph entirely backwards, and an alien abduction believer who thought that taking ketamine opened him to the truth.
We did once have a poster who believed that statues were drinking milk.
I agree that we shouldn't be trying to downplay the number of years/lives lost, but it's important for decision-makers to assess the toll of the virus in comparison to alternative strategies. E.g. years lost to the lack of cancer diagnoses and treatments. Weak analysis could have consequences.
And the other consideration is that allowing the virus to run free reduces the capacity to do other medical procedures rather than increase it.
Australia is beginning elective surgery very soon as they have virtually eliminated the virus.
You don't like the religious conspiracy-theorist end of world doom-mongering nutters? What is wrong with you?
That said things are still precarious as R is still only just below 1 in most states and above in 1. Partly because infections are so low (it is easier to lower R when you have a large number of infected and an R above 0 than it is with a very small number of infected and a R already below 1).
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Absolutely yeah, COVID-19 needs to be under some sort of control as priority. Down the line it's a balancing act.
I think we've been fortunate in Aus. My gut says the major factors have been inherent characteristics of the country/population rather than decision-making. But the response has been above-average compared to other countries. Agreed with what you said a couple of days ago about the gov feeling the need to step up after the bushfires.
We do like a bit of authoritarianism despite protests to the contrary. How else can you explain Peter Dutton not being lynched on sight?
he's even worse than that Bunnings blokeAh, so it's been big tobacco all along.
Seriously?! They stopped in Ireland. Surely they stopped in the UK too? (with maybe a few exceptions)
A lot of people are doing that anyway. Next door to me have been regularly having family and friends round for barbecues and drinks, etc. Their English isn't great so possibly they've misunderstood the guidelines.
My dad never used to get colds (a corona virus) etc when's he smoked like a chimney but does since he quit, so this doesn't surprise me.