Wait, all the anger here is about the little blm?
Protests following the killing of George Floyd
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Just on the "silence = complicity" stuff.. it is word for word the exact argument you hear from Tommy Robinson and people of that ilk when they talk about Muslim communities complicity in grooming gangs.
Stop the world I wanna get off. We are fecked.
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I said it in another thread but it takes less effort for some folk to understand a symbol like the cenotaph than it does hundreds of years of oppression and murder at the hands of exploitative overlords and the many intricacies that come with it. Which is why they probably care about it / notice it more.
Not saying that defacing the cenotaph is an acceptable thing, because it isn't, but I also think the folk using its defacement purely as an argument against the protests either secretly or unknowingly have a problem with the protests because they either don't understand them or don't agree with them.
He needs to go back to page one and start calling out all of it.
It shows.
Wait. And go where?
No, if you have an argument to make then make it.
Where you stop is when you don't care enough about the act being undertaken.
If you had been impacted by racism it would likely be much higher in your list of priorities.
I think the point is, if you don't challenge something then you are not helping the situation.
This applies more in the case of racism because the perpetrators are much less likely to listen to the opinion of the very race they are prejudice toward. Doesn't make you a bad person if you don't challenge it. But staying silent implies that it is acceptable behaviour imo.
Mum said about this earlier we come from near Bristol and I've lived there. I guessed it was to do with the slave trade. Apparently they threw the statue in the river as a show of what colston did with black people. We both agreed that protests that damage property was bad but this was an exception.
so because of a small minority, people shouldn’t protest racial injustice?
This argument is the equivalent of saying that black lives don’t matter because black people kill each other too.
We can't - since we took back control of our country we're locked-down, have no flights, no money, no country and no control.
We've had a few of those in this thread.
Yeah I think I’m going to try and stick to the football forum because even though it’s a minority of posters, it’s depressing seeing some of the nonsense spewed in this thread.
Yeah threads like this always turn out quite depressing, though them going off the deep end and getting banned is somewhat entertaining.
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Good. Not the first time he's had some slightly off views. Can't remember them offhand but seeing his name and that post didn't surprise me.
Yeah and it helps me to put the ignore feature to use too!
There are people that are smashing shit up and saying it's in the name of anti racism so it expunges them apparently from being viewed as complete and utter cnuts. Are they going to be viewed as noble in years from now as they are today?
As angry as I am about people trying to literally set the Cenotaph and all that it represents on fire - and those who think it's an irrelevance. This is also a brutal reaction, dunno if your upset, trolling, or just wrong but wise up.
Defacing war memorials is not the way to sort it, but there is an issue. Telling people that are born here to leave is not going to be part of the solution.
I'd like to be done with this thread, I've tried several times, yet here I am again. I will never in a million years agree with some of the responses sent to me tonight, but nor do I support the actions of Trump's warped version of America. Maybe tomorrow il wise up and go stalk Sancho instead of wasting my breath here.
I don't think it's my place to speak on behalf of black people, it's on you to educate yourself on history and racism not on me.
If so why are you so attracted to right wing nonsense and conspiracy theory bullshit?
It is nothing to do with any status quo. You just seem to think that You Tube is primary literature and believe any old rubbish you find there. Then bring it here to distract and disrupt threads. That is why you get threadbanned.
The overly PC "regressive left" are alienating him, that's why we got Trump™ etc etc.
Yes. Lets deport citizens we don't agree with. Good idea.
It will be viewed as a necessary step, yes. Peaceful protests have gone on deaf ears for decades. What do you suggest? Another century of taking the moral high ground and hoping that something changes from peaceful words alone?
One has nothing to do with the other. It's not like a Confederate monument or a statue of a slave owner. It's a monument to soldiers who died. It's vandalism and has feck all to do with race or racism.
It's got them losing public support very quickly. This is easy as feck for Sun, Mail, Telegraph and the rest to spin.
Do you have a list of recommended books? I would like to educate myself a bit on the subject
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...s-racism-antiracism-black-scholars-2020-6?amp
Here's a list of good books on the subject to read.
There were several recommendations recently in the History thread that might be useful.
One thing to understand is how the media is biased towards sensationalism and only viewing things on edited TV news distorts reality. The reality is hundreds of thousands/millions around the world are peacefully protesting but if you look at unedited footage, well that's a bit boring. If you only watch the edited nightly news you are getting a very skewed impression of what's happening. 50,000 people are peacefully protesting but 50-100 of them start breaking a few windows what do you think the sensationalist media is going to show? 45 minutes of airtime from looting that makes up a minuscule fraction of the overall protest. The only people I see questioning the "legitimacy of the protests" are heavily biased, to begin with. A few looters among millions of protesters does absolutely nothing to de-legitimize the protests, although of course, that's what the neo-fascists want people to think.
Another thing to understand is that there is some legitimate document evidence that it was police/right-wing nutjobs that started breaking windows to make the protesters look bad. For every video of a looter, there is also a video of militarized police going way beyond legitimate use of force.
Thank you! I will take a look
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What the absolute feck is this?
Great pictures. Thanks
Most of these protests are organized by folks who’ve been doing this decades. The insinuation that they don’t care about covid or public health is so willfully ignorant. Especially when you know that doctors are at the front of this movement supporting the cause. Instead of acknowledging they know what they’re doing, we see reactionary BS that does nothing to help the cause.
Well said mate.
Eh? They know what they're doing?
Look. I support the protest. Would join them if I'm geographically there. But let's not pretend they know what they're doing corona wise.
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