Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending

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It was considerate of the police to leave the most visible parts of his legs untouched just so he was still able to wear shorts without feeling self conscious. :lol:

Total storytime and so people here lapping it up thinking they have to believe every word to prove what a great fan they are .

I got to go and read the suarez thread to see what these brains were saying about liverpool fans believing his nonsense
 

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So he didn't do anything wrong at all and everything he is charged with is a lie?

I find that VERY difficult to believe. Makes no reference to retaliating or fighting people which is the main cause of this nightmare. His legal team have clearly seeked this interview out and instructed him to deny every single bit of it. Reminded me a bit of the Prince Andrew interview. I'm not saying Maguire is definitely guilty of all charges, but he certainly isn't completely innocent. That interview was total denial and embarrasses him and the club even more in my eyes.

Dear me. He'll carry on as captain no doubt, but his reputation is shot to pieces.
No it’s not, it will all blow over. He isn’t the first man in the world to make a mistake with drink in him and he sure as hell won’t be the last..
 

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TBH, I would have doubts of playing him as our main defender mostly on the mental aspect and his ability to concentrate etc whilst this is so fresh and still clearly an ongoing thing.

United need to protect him a little and themselves and ensure we get a couple of CB's of quality asap ... Plus Sancho of course. (Jokes)
 

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His story is obviously nonsense . None of the things he is saying adds up at all . Police taunting him hitting him in the leg saying his careers over ? Wheres the marks then ? Must have been some light kicks that they thought would end his career .

Kidnapping fears just sounds BS and straight out of Taken.

Police are saying they interviewed the sister and she never mentioned being drugged .

Jussie Smollet's story was more believable than Maguires but hey he got off so who knows
Now imagine if Maguire was black. Would you still believe all of this?
 

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Total storytime and so people here lapping it up thinking they have to believe every word to prove what a great fan they are .

I got to go and read the suarez thread to see what these brains were saying about liverpool fans believing his nonsense
Aye it is very Suarez/Liverpoolesque in here right now. Clear evidence suggesting he’s lying for sure about his legs being beaten, but now it’s because we can’t see the very tiny and exact place hidden from camera where the police chose to beat him. It’s not even funny, simply embarrassing.
 

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I think he's mostly telling the truth, though if he did think they were getting kidnapped it does make sense for him to offer them money.

It's been mentioned in this thread briefly but my takeaway is that if he's of another demographic the media and many others view this present this in a very different way.
 

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What I’ve said there isn’t anything new. His defence attorney mentioned the video in court.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....rry-maguire-hopes-video-evidence-22581685.amp

And here’s an article on the physical forensic evidence. Again it’s nothing new.
https://theathletic.co.uk/2021530/2...aguire-manchester-united-captaincy-kidnapped/

There’s a reason why it takes more than 2 days from point of arrest until being sentenced to 21 months in jail in most countries. But hey, it’s all a big conspiracy and Greek justice is wonderful. He clearly had a totally fair trial which gave plenty of opportunity for a defence to be submitted.
Unfortunately i can't read the article.

We'll know soon enough, meaning that this evidence will be brought forward in a day or 2 if it exists. I'm very surprised to hear they already have it since it's in Maguire's interest to make it public asap to try to controle the narrative from now on.
 

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Aye it is very Suarez/Liverpoolesque in here right now. Clear evidence suggesting he’s lying for sure about his legs being beaten, but now it’s because we can’t see the very tiny and exact place hidden from camera where the police chose to beat him. It’s not even funny, simply embarrassing.
You literally can’t see 3/4s of his legs. And it was over a week ago. The only thing that’s embarrassing in here is you and your new found mate. He may be guilty, he may not be. There’s more than enough reasonable doubt for me to not judge him. With fans like you lot who needs enemies. Half this forum wouldn’t look out of place at RAWK.
 
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Aye it is very Suarez/Liverpoolesque in here right now. Clear evidence suggesting he’s lying for sure about his legs being beaten, but now it’s because we can’t see the very tiny and exact place hidden from camera where the police chose to beat him. It’s not even funny, simply embarrassing.
This post is embarrassing. You are clearly on the wind up, perhaps frequent a different forum.
 

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Aye it is very Suarez/Liverpoolesque in here right now. Clear evidence suggesting he’s lying for sure about his legs being beaten, but now it’s because we can’t see the very tiny and exact place hidden from camera where the police chose to beat him. It’s not even funny, simply embarrassing.
Behave.
 

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You literally can’t see 3/4s of his legs. And it was over a week ago. The only thing that’s embarrassing in here is you and your new found mate. He may be guilty, he may not be. There’s more than enough reasonable doubt for me to not judge him. With fans like you lot who needs enemies. Half this forum wouldn’t look out of place at RAWK.

Yes your right the people swallowing his nonsense are the exact same as the people on Rawk who believed Suarez
 

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This is such a "nothing-burger" as they say in the Midwestern states of the USA. Irrelevant story that will be forgotten by the halfway mark of next season. Anyone who's been to Greece knows that there is a lot of corruption anyways so there is probably going to be a lack of facts on both sides of the conversation.

All the calls to strip the captaincy are just hilarious attempts by loser internet folks who are trying to seek attention. I don't think any crime was honestly committed, apart from maybe the potential that his sister was given a date-rape drug.
 

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Are you on the wind up? Are you a Utd supporter, or someone that just takes joy from this sort of situation?
Why does a United fan HAVE TO BELIEVE Maguire's story? Why do we have to support him for getting himself into an altercation with police in another country.

I’d also like to know why anonymous fans on a forum, who have no judicial power or influence beyond this forum, which itself has no power, should be ‘ashamed’ for having an opinion? Do let me know.

We’ve learned nothing new from this interview, he has a version of events as do the Greek police.

Though it does appear that Maguire is still in a state of Shock, which is not surprising because getting into trouble with the police in any country is scary experience. I hope he can quickly overcome this so he is ready for the season, and am sure the club and his teammates will help him.
 
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I back him till he is proven guilty. I.hope we don't remove him as a captain.
 

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Ffs he’s about to burst into tears. Unless he’s a pathological liar then I don’t see how you fake that. Anyway, I was always behind him.
 

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You literally can’t see 3/4s of his legs. And it was over a week ago. The only thing that’s embarrassing in here is you and your new found mate. He may be guilty, he may not be. There’s more than enough reasonable doubt for me to not judge him. With fans like you lot who needs enemies. Half this forum wouldn’t look out of place at RAWK.
It was literally less than a week ago. Even so, the evidence of beaten legs would remain. Unless the NHS have edited their website to give false information because they have a vendetta against United.



You’re deluded if you think otherwise. We can see over half of his legs :lol:
 

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Aye it is very Suarez/Liverpoolesque in here right now. Clear evidence suggesting he’s lying for sure about his legs being beaten, but now it’s because we can’t see the very tiny and exact place hidden from camera where the police chose to beat him. It’s not even funny, simply embarrassing.
What in the feck are you taking about? Not everyone bruises like a peach you know.
 

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And not only that. If the story you´ve been telling is a lie, you have the better option of staying away from tv, instead of telling it again in front of millions of people. I believe our captain and he has my full support.
This didn't stop prince Andrew to be fair
 
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Why does a United fan HAVE TO BELIEVE maguires story? Why do we have to support him for getting himself into an altercation with police in another country.

I’d also like to know why anonymous fans on a forum, who have no judicial power or influence beyond this forum, which itself has no power, should be ‘ashamed’ for having an opinion? Do let me know.

We’ve learned nothing new from this interview, he has a version of events as do the Greek police.

Though it does appear that Maguire is still in a state of Shock, which is not surprising because getting into trouble with the police in any country is scary experience. I hope he can quickly overcome this so he is ready for the season, and am sure the club and his teammates will help him.
We have learnt a lot, we have his side of the story.

As I’ve said in previous posts, we still don’t know the truth, but those who were quick to condemn him without any evidence, and not hearing his side of things should be embarrassed.

I’m not saying you have to believe him at all, it’s the posters who won’t believe him, no matter what and are so blinded by their hatred of the player, they want to believe he is guilty. Are you one of those posters, or are you prepared to give him a chance to prove himself?
 

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This post is embarrassing. You are clearly on the wind up, perhaps frequent a different forum.
How can you even keep a straight face disputing the fact his legs would be showing clear signs of being beaten to the point he was fearing for his life?! I can’t present any clearer evidence than his actual legs.
 

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So he didn't do anything wrong at all and everything he is charged with is a lie?

I find that VERY difficult to believe. Makes no reference to retaliating or fighting people which is the main cause of this nightmare. His legal team have clearly seeked this interview out and instructed him to deny every single bit of it. Reminded me a bit of the Prince Andrew interview. I'm not saying Maguire is definitely guilty of all charges, but he certainly isn't completely innocent. That interview was total denial and embarrasses him and the club even more in my eyes.

Dear me. He'll carry on as captain no doubt, but his reputation is shot to pieces.
What i inferred from the interview was he did get in a fight, but he thought he was being kidnapped and thus defending himself.
 

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What in the feck are you taking about? Not everyone bruises like a peach you know.
I can guarantee if multiple men were beating your legs hard enough for them to threaten ending your career, and for you to fear for your life thinking you might die, you’d have bruises. :rolleyes:
 

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How can you even keep a straight face disputing the fact his legs would be showing clear signs of being beaten to the point he was fearing for his life?! I can’t present any clearer evidence than his actual legs.
He was fearing for his life because he thought he was being kidnapped not beating within an inch of his life.
 

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How can you even keep a straight face disputing the fact his legs would be showing clear signs of being beaten to the point he was fearing for his life?! I can’t present any clearer evidence than his actual legs.
Your screencaps aren't clear evidence of anything, Mr internet detective
 

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Some of you are absolutely thick. Of course he’s not going to come out in the interview and state that he beat up or hit anyone. That’s just going to give the people prosecuting him extra ammunition.

If you can watch that video and think he’s making all of it up then you need to give your head a wobble. The lad is obviously still shaken up by the events and you’re arguing that he’s lying because you can’t see bruises on his legs. Next you’ll be telling me you’ve found him booked into an acting course in the last week you daft cnuts.
 

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I can guarantee if multiple men were beating your legs hard enough for them to threaten ending your career, and for you to fear for your life thinking you might die, you’d have bruises. :rolleyes:
Do you have to take everything he said literally? They could have hit his legs when he was kneeling down but that doesn’t mean they did it with unbelievable force. Again, he was fearing for his life most likely because of the fear of being kidnapped. It’s not really hard is it? Stop being dense.
And yeah I’ve been hit plenty of times on my legs on my body and I don’t get bruises at all really, except for black eyes. So it’s totally plausible that he wouldn’t have bruises either.
 

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He was fearing for his life because he thought he was being kidnapped not beating within an inch of his life.
Kidnappers don’t tend to kill the kidnapped. Kind of ruins the whole demanding a ransom thing they’ve got going on.
 
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How can you even keep a straight face disputing the fact his legs would be showing clear signs of being beaten to the point he was fearing for his life?! I can’t present any clearer evidence than his actual legs.
Are you Gil Grissom? Honestly.

Come round to my house, I’ll smash your calves with a cricket bat, and see if you have any bruising from the front a few days later? Win/win.
 

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What i inferred from the interview was he did get in a fight, but he thought he was being kidnapped and thus defending himself.
Im sure he can prove, or no-one can disprove any word he said, it would have been legally vetted. There was nothing new there anyway except for the emotions, the statements were already in the public sphere.
What was more interesting were the things he wasn't allowed to say, like he hit a cop. Thats the case, along with the bribary charge.
Prosecution will have to prove that they showed ID, that Maguire was violent (they claim one of there officers got medical help), and that he offered a bribe.
 

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Your reply has nothing to do with my post.
How does it not in the theme of this thread with posters saying he's blatantly lying.

Put the 2 interviews side by side. Only one person appears to be lying and it isnt maguire.
 

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It was literally less than a week ago. Even so, the evidence of beaten legs would remain. Unless the NHS have edited their website to give false information because they have a vendetta against United.



You’re deluded if you think otherwise. We can see over half of his legs :lol:
Umm no...you can see the front of his lower legs. Back of the legs don’t count do they not? And I’m not sure what linking to an article saying if a bruise doesn’t disappear in 2 weeks you should see a GP means? Unless it says it is impossible to be kicked in the leg and not have a visible bruise a week later when wearing shorts then you’re talking utter arse. Which you are.
 
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