We get that. I haven’t physically seen family or friends since March. I didn’t attend the funeral of my brother or mother who both passed in that timescale.
sometimes you gotta suck it up and think of the bigger picture
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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sometimes you gotta suck it up and think of the bigger picture
My wife told me about a 27 year old who died from it. No underlying conditions
My mum works in a GP surgery and said a 28 year old died. No underlying conditions either.
Back to being terrified again.
Everyone should respect it. It’s so random who gets it and how strong.
Those are luckily just anomalies and not standard procedure. You should be rightfully cautious but constantly being in a terrified state of mind is quite draining and not sustainable because it's gonna be around for a while still.
It makes me incredibly worried about my gf. She’s working in retail up until late Christmas eve and then right after Christmas until the new year. Just so many potential exposures.it's just so indiscriminate.
I know it’s irrational but it just worries me. Tbf the last time it was on my mind this much was back in April. Just reading things like this and a few family members having it has me concerned again.
They say they don’t think the new strain is any more deadly but they also said they didn’t think the virus would come here from China.
Also I thought they’d found ways to make it far less deadly now. So I’m confused as to why young people especially are dying from it.
Still worth remembering this isn't the norm. Yes, you will hear instances about young, seemingly healthy people succumbing to it, but again you also hear of younger people dying from heart attacks, picking up neurological conditions like Parkinson's and what not. I'm not inviting any complacency or trying to downplay the severity of it, but the data still overwhelmingly has younger people at far less risk to its severity.
Stay safe and remain cautious, but don't let it cripple you with anxiety.
Not sure, but I think mutations are either more contagious or more deadly. Its purpose is to co-exist with humans so a very deadly mutation wouldn't be this contagious since it would kill more and have less opportunities to infect others (that's what I think though, not sure if that makes sense).
I would hate that too, it just feels such a risky sector.
Being more contagious could also correlate with its severity when you take into account the likelihood of the a person being subjected to a bigger viral exposure.
Luckily her contract ends early Jan and she’s starting a new role where she can WFH if needed. Just need to get through this period!
Good luck to you both Sol. And to your cousin too, hope she gets back to full health soon
Very good read from someone at the coalface. I feel that many of these armchair psychiatrists are raising the issue of mental health to push their own personal agenda and justify their own selfish behaviour. As a person with no history of mental health issues I can say that this pandemic has had an averse effect on my mental health and this has had a knock on effect with my physical health. In addition I am in a high risk group and I have been in an effective lockdown since March. At no time have I thought feck it I've had enough of this I'll take my chances. Look at the packed trains, packed supermarkets, other people not social distancing, the idiot we have for a prime minister. Blah. blah, blah. As you say being depressed does not have any effect on my ability to think or act in a rational, safe and responsible manner.
Brill. Heads down, grit teeth and burst out the other side! Onwards and upwards!
Thanks geebs!
Hancock press conference at 3pm.
Obviously not lockdown then. Boris would announce that.
Speaking of Boris, EU is telling its states to prepare for an announcement.
Brexit announcement by Boris after the hancock presser?
I'm not sure that logic really works with a virus that causes mostly asymptomatic cases and has a long period before death. It could definitely be more contagious and significantly more deadly than the current variant and be successful. In a way we're lucky that this virus isn't much worse, hopefully some lessons learned and we fund preparations going forward.
Not that the virus makes any kind of evolutionary decision, it's just post hoc logic i.e variant x,y,z died out because they were too deadly.
Waste, Negligence and Cronyism: Inside Britain’s Pandemic Spending
In the desperate scramble for protective gear and other equipment, politically connected companies reaped billions.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/17/world/europe/britain-covid-contracts.html
"To shine a light on one of the greatest spending sprees in Britain’s postwar era, The New York Times analyzed a large segment of it, the roughly 1,200 central government contracts that have been made public, together worth nearly $22 billion. Of that, about $11 billion went to companies either run by friends and associates of politicians in the Conservative Party, or with no prior experience or a history of controversy. Meanwhile, smaller firms without political clout got nowhere."
In the desperate scramble for protective gear and other equipment, politically connected companies reaped billions.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/17/world/europe/britain-covid-contracts.html
"To shine a light on one of the greatest spending sprees in Britain’s postwar era, The New York Times analyzed a large segment of it, the roughly 1,200 central government contracts that have been made public, together worth nearly $22 billion. Of that, about $11 billion went to companies either run by friends and associates of politicians in the Conservative Party, or with no prior experience or a history of controversy. Meanwhile, smaller firms without political clout got nowhere."
No national lockdown then if it's Hancock, no CW or SPV either.
The big guns are saved for big announcements
The big guns are saved for big announcements
I couldn't find it, where does it say there is a EU announcement?
I'd be surprised if it was anything major regarding Brexit as there would have been leaks. More likely to do with the new strain and urging calm?
And for many people that won’t be the case. You should give up your own armchair psychiatry.
Maybe lockdown would be a pre-recorded message from Boris again like in March. Assuming it was, I don’t think it was live was it?
If the new strain is more infectious because it binds more easily and replicates more quickly which results in a higher viral load, yet it doesn’t seem to cause more symptoms / hospitalisations etc., doesn’t that hint that each virus cell is a little weaker? Maybe this virus could mutate into something more infectious but causes less disease...
Still too early to draw that conclusion.
Interesting that there’s seemingly no leaks so far too.
Indicating it will be pointless
Asymptomatic testing being the lateral flow tests yes?
What are your thoughts on the supposed terrible sensitivity being found? (Pogue posted the other day)
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How are people saying there are no leaks when this shit was leaked last night by the sun lool
We have very little idea what they’re going to say. Usually we know pretty much everything.
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I believe that the higher viral load is primarily observed in the upper respiratory tract, thereby potentially increasing transmission but also not substantially increasing the damaging immune response which is mostly elicited by high viral loads within the lung.
Not sure why this mutation to the spike would only affect replication/viral loads in the upper respiratory tract but I guess it could be related to differing ACE expression in airway/lung epithelial cells.
Is anyone watching this Hancock press conference? They’ve found a 3rd strain that they believe is even more transmissible than the one announced last week 
I think he meant that its very much transmissible, just like the UK oneIs anyone watching this Hancock press conference? They’ve found a 3rd strain that they believe is even more transmissible than the one announced last week