Cos Boris doesn't like looking bad (ignoring the fact he already does and is a complete moron)
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Depends on a) how essential your work is and to a degree, b) can you do it from home?
Which is rather besides the point as there is no need at all for you to go for beers at your mate's house for another few months.
Where you work should be following the rules. It should not be like it was this time last year. I work for a news organisation that is on 24/7 - if we can within a day start following rules then almost every industry can
When you go mixing at people's homes, you aren't doing staggered start times, wearing masks or social distancing. At work you should be
This is also not one of those cases where it's all or nothing. Just because I have to go to the shop to buy things, doesn't mean I can go recklessly, not follow the rules and I may as well start going into everybody's homes. Some things are unavoidable and where we can minimise the risk of anything, we should
I can work from home twice a week
Lets say I have covid & I’m asymptomatic, wouldn’t it be more dangerous for me to go into my office with 100+ people, some of them old, then go to my friends house with 3-4 people, all of them young?
I know, economy & that, but there’s clearly a double standard.
This lockdown is going to have dire effects on people’s mental health, especially if they live alone. Most people see their friends at the weekends to destress & forget about work, taking that away from people for a considerable amount of time is going to have consequences.
Your company should be trying to follow the guidelines - so they should have the office set out out in a certain way to avoid mixing, people crossing each other etc. If it isn't then it is of course more dangerous.
If they are, then I would argue that potentially meeting friends is just as dangerous as you will not be following the guidelines when there (social distancing, masks etc.)
There was no question and this lockdown is hard on everyone.
If we have to compare mental health challenges, I reckon being elderly, isolated and under a constant threat of imminent death from a virus that kills one in ten people your age shits all over being denied a night out in the pub for a few months.
So it’s hard to feel any sympathy for people in the latter category willing to make life more difficult for people in the former category because they’re bored of the pandemic.
The question of mental health is tricky because it is so individual. You can be a person without mental health issues and suffer being alone during a lockdown or you can be a person that has mental health issues but can cope being alone during a lockdown or the various other scenarios that can play out in each case. That is why there are rules in place such as meeting outdoors for a walk with others as long as it’s socially distanced to try and help with that, or there are things such as video calling etc. Of course there should be a contingency plan in place for mental health such as check ups by professionals or a phone line for people to call into if they’re struggling etc. As someone with mental health problems I’m not oblivious to how to it feels to be alone or depressed during isolation but suffering with mental health does not mean I’m devoid of logic or common sense.
I don't think a hard lockdown will come into force again anywhere near boxing day.
The government usually give about a weeks notice when rules come into effect, as we've seen with previous lockdowns and tier introductions etc. so I think it'll be closer to New Year.
The government usually give about a weeks notice when rules come into effect, as we've seen with previous lockdowns and tier introductions etc. so I think it'll be closer to New Year.
Saturday being the exception. I don't think we'll see much notice this time around.
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Which is always a mistake. It makes people be silly just before. Most other countries just announce it for the following day and give people time to get home, that's it
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I assume so!
Genius
Just genetically engineering a form of the virus that is better at transmission but had no ill effect!
It would probably be the way to go too, if only we had the technology to do so (without any possibility of it going wrong).
It would probably be the way to go too, if only we had the technology to do so (without any possibility of it going wrong).
On the flip side I’m on the BoM at my sons primary school and we can see that many kids also thrived from a period of home tutoring, increased 1 on 1 time with their parents. From a personal perspective my youngest son who has had severe speech and language issues, he missed the last few months of his pre-school then has the time at home before going into junior infants at primary school. We worked with him a lot during the time off and he has come on hugely. We were so scared for him going to primary as we were told his development was a year behind but he’s thriving now. Time off suited him. We also used the time to develop management techniques for his ADHD. He knows now how to self regulate.
So, my point is that I don’t doubt there is a portion of kids who struggled but there will also be a portion of kids who didn’t
what I’ve been calling for all the way through is parental choice whether to send them in or not
Interesting looking at the amount of people under 16 in U.K, 12m of them according to figures for 2019.
That's not far off a fifth of the whole population and as it stands none of them are getting the vaccine although I highly suspect that will change if they really are spreading the new strain so easily.
So really U.K got to vaccinate 30m or so as I assume it's still 70-80% for things to significantly calm down? When you add in the amount who've already had covid in some form so far it still feels to me like early May should be the end game if they can get roll out to 1.5m a week which was the target I think although that will probably be another one missed.
That's not far off a fifth of the whole population and as it stands none of them are getting the vaccine although I highly suspect that will change if they really are spreading the new strain so easily.
So really U.K got to vaccinate 30m or so as I assume it's still 70-80% for things to significantly calm down? When you add in the amount who've already had covid in some form so far it still feels to me like early May should be the end game if they can get roll out to 1.5m a week which was the target I think although that will probably be another one missed.
My cousin has it and is quite unwell with it. She's 22.
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Yeah I think it's completely stupid and short sighted, just saying that it's been a trend with this government to give people the excuse for last blowouts before locking down. The way London was announced to Tier 4 was the way to do it properly.
Work is far more essential for the economy and society than is seeing your mates so that is a false and almost irrelevant equivalency.
Nothing is consequence free but for most people not partying with your mates for a few months is something we can all cope with for the greater good.
And if your work requires attendance then they should be minimising risk.
How do they know if it's a new strain or not?
I know the guy is a right wing nut job, but I am pretty sure he was joking
That's me assuming, I should've said. But she's in the area where cases seem to be exploding and I keep reading about how the newer strain is affecting younger people worse.
You said it as if it were fact, but it could be the older strain. Irresponsible.
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True but work and life are linked, and productivity tends to be higher when people's sense of wellbeing is better.
At this time, there's been a real risk of burning out by asking people to continuously produce without proper respite. While I agree that 'seeing your mates at the pub doesn't sound important, it's about taking into account the various factors that can negatively impact wellbeing, and how people might struggle to cope with less alternatives that ensure a healthy work/life balance.
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Was there a massive spike after VE day in early May? I went for an hour walk that day and there were massive street parties on all the roads around me with lack of traffic at the time. Add in the mass gatherings on beaches on the South coast for the May bank holiday and beyond. Not even sure masks were advised at that time, just 2m distance as masks in shops only became mandatory on 23rd July which massively surprised me, public transport a month before.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...ntres-and-enclosed-transport-hubs-from-friday
Lockdowns do work and it's inevitable we'll have one early next month but so far the only thing I've seen that can really push covid back is long spells of humid, hot weather.
In late July pubs have been open for 3 weeks, masks were only mandatory in shops for a few days and generally many more people were out and above, 0 deaths on July 30th which I think was a Thursday. 63 weekly deaths from covid between 3rd-7th August to pluck a random week out of the air.
So whatever was working then should be applied now....ah right it was 30 odd degrees around then. Perhaps I'm too simplistic but that's the big problem I think, sadly more people just die in winter and covid is just another trend whatever you do. Dosen't mean we shouldn't take every step to prevent things but ultimately they'll always be stuff beyond your control and the Weather is certainly one part of that, hasn't even been that harsh a winter yet at least.
Because we have police. You may want to live in a county where the domestic population are controlled by the national army. But I would prefer not.
I'd sign up for that right now, January is a depressing month as it is in normal times after the xmas celebrations so no issue bunkering down for that and February is a few more days shorter at least....
Does surprise me the government isn't dangling some more carrots like a few more restrictions eased in March if we lockdown and we can vaccinate xxx number a week up to March....unless they're completely incapable of getting that number out which will be the usual way it will play out I suspect.
My missus has it (shes only 26) and was very poorly last week to the extent she was close to calling for an ambulance. Thankfully she's better but its frightening considering her age and generally healthy lifestyle. My parents also had it earlier in the year (both frontline doctors) and only displayed mild symptoms. It does feel like a roll of the dice with what you get with it.
Crikey! Glad she’s getting better, a wake up call for people who think just because they’re young they will be okay.
Jaysus, hope she gets better soon
Thanks. And yeah absolutely - admittedly I started to feel a little complacent and fed up over the last few months, and I'm considerably less fit than she is
It isn't unimportant but it isn't essential for a relatively short period during a pandemic for the vast majority of us.
Glad to hear she's doing better
<3Glad to hear she's doing better
A personal anecdote to share with you.
I work at one of the largest NHS trusts in the UK. One of my colleagues received a positive result today (she is asymptomatic) and is now isolating.
I'm asymptomatic and have been following guidelines. Myself and my colleagues have been trying to get a test since the news, however across the multiple hospitals at the trust, there's no asymptomatic testing available until 4th-12th Jan. The reason why? We've been told it's because all the students have gone home for Xmas and they're overbooked. Likewise, the home testing kits aren't available for collection until 4th Jan either.
Therefore occupational health are advising us to self isolate for 10 days and if we develop symptoms in this time, we can book for a symptomatic swab test (hopefully quicker than 4th Jan!)
I work at one of the largest NHS trusts in the UK. One of my colleagues received a positive result today (she is asymptomatic) and is now isolating.
I'm asymptomatic and have been following guidelines. Myself and my colleagues have been trying to get a test since the news, however across the multiple hospitals at the trust, there's no asymptomatic testing available until 4th-12th Jan. The reason why? We've been told it's because all the students have gone home for Xmas and they're overbooked. Likewise, the home testing kits aren't available for collection until 4th Jan either.
Therefore occupational health are advising us to self isolate for 10 days and if we develop symptoms in this time, we can book for a symptomatic swab test (hopefully quicker than 4th Jan!)
Everyday when you wake up a look at the mirror, make sure to tell yourself "I'm an authoritarian".
Maybe if you didn’t use phrases like “house party or “piss ups” people would empathise with you more. Instead you came across as selfish and immatureThat’s how it sounds to me
I know everyone in this thread thinks I’m some sort of tinfoil hat wearing “scamdemic” type, but I’m actually not. I know it’s very real & ive followed the rules. I just don’t see how we are doing anything other than going around in circles when I’ve been in my office & I see how there’s next to no social distancing, my friends have said similar, my girlfriend works in Morrison’s, she’s said similar, I walk past metrolinks every day & they are hammered. We had media encouraged mass gatherings for protests over the summer, that was fine too. It just seems odd to me that all of that is completely fine but how dare you go to see your friends for a drink.