Cavani gets 3 match ban from FA for his social media post

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As I understand it he didn't contest the charge. He's only missing one league game so who cares.
 

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Well this is the interesting part to it.

It's not like he's come to England and used the "n" word that everyone in England knows to be offensive.

He's used a word in his own language that appears to have different meanings - and clearly used it in a friendly way (unlike Suarez's embarrassing defence of his own use of whatever he said)

The only way forward for clubs is to have players get every post approved by the PR team.

You'd be furious if you were manager losing a player for the same length of time as some sort of horrific challenge on the pitch.
good shout
 

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The FA said in a statement: “Edinson Cavani has been suspended for three games, fined £100,000 and must complete face-to-face education after admitting a charge for a breach of FA Rule E3 in relation to a social media post on Sunday 29 November 2020.”

Comedy on highest level.
In a fecking pandemic! Hooligans and loons the lot of them. Luckily Cavani has already had Covid so shouldn't make any difference but still, what bellends.
 

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I blame the club for not giving him a list of words that he should never use on social media in any context, especially considering we now live in the days of social witch hunts and public shaming. This can't be the first "social faux pas" they've had from a player totally unaccustomed to English culture.
I wouldn't put the blame on him or the club. You'd have to have a IQ of 190 to keep up with what offends the snowflakes these days. :lol:
 

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good shout
With so much money at stake I'm absolutely astonished that the big clubs don't already do this.
They take every step they can possibly take in fitness/treatment/right training etc, yet leave this risk open of having a player ruled out for 3 games or more.
 
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Part of me is annoyed that the club took it but I guess from their statement they're not impressed but trying not to appear like they're undermining the fight against racism.

The specific wording from the FA is OTT.. couldn't they just have said "charge, 3 games"? And the face to face education is laughable... w@nkers.

I imagine social media will be watching footballers posts now and dissecting it with a fine tooth comb. The FA better stomp on anything even remotely similar going forward.
 

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I wouldn't put the blame on him or the club. You'd have to have a IQ of 190 to keep up with what offends the snowflakes these days. :lol:
We saw it with that PSG game where the ref's crime was to point to a group of staff, all dressed similarly and differentiate by saying "the black guy".

I was startled by how many people thought that was something to get upset about as opposed to merely the easiest way to quickly point someone out.
 

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The FA said in a statement: “Edinson Cavani has been suspended for three games, fined £100,000 and must complete face-to-face education after admitting a charge for a breach of FA Rule E3 in relation to a social media post on Sunday 29 November 2020.”

Comedy on highest level.
:lol: What a farce
 

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It's a typical decision from the FA. We are always made an example of. It comes with being the biggest club in the land.

The club should know this though. In the future, any new player should receive a short lesson on how to avoid such problems. We have to maintain the highest standards. Or, to put it another way; don't give the bastards a chance to screw us over.
 

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Yeah you may well be right. I just think with it being close to a direct translation there are questions that can be asked of a potential issue there. I did see a post earlier in the thread from a Latin American that aired similar views. Happy to be wrong though. Could definitely just be a poor understanding from myself.
But I get your question and where you're coming from. Referring to someone by their defining physical features i.e big nose, blondie, and of course the term that was used, can be seen as a bit infintile in our culture. It's certainly something one may hear used as teasing in school. But hey, it's South American culture and I think we ought to respect the way they speak, as anyone should for any culture. So I get where you coming from but again there are a lot of oddities in cultures and languages that people just don't understand sometimes and that's perfectly okay.
 

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Part of me is annoyed that the club took it but I guess from their statement they're not impressed but trying not to appear like they're undermining the fight against racism.

The specific wording from the FA is OTT.. couldn't they just have said "charge, 3 games"? And the face to face education is laughable... w@nkers.

I imagine social media will be watching footballers posts now and dissecting it with a fine tooth comb. The FA better stomp on anything even remotely similar going forward.
I hope they don't though. This should be a kick in the arse to make their rules more sensible if the law says this is supposed to be a 3 match ban plus a massive fine. The rules are clearly stupid.
 

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The irony of face-to-face education is palpable. What happens when kick it out consider that Danish professor and his complaint?

Bizarre stuff.

FA should have communicated to MU that we infrorm Cavani that some words in Spanish may sound offensive when heard in an English speaking country.
 

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not passing any judgement, that is the FA's job. bigger and better in terms of the process and the experience, I cant imagine it was anything but difficult for him. and as for the passive aggressive nature of your comment, i take it only opinions that agree with your judgement are acceptable? odd how the free speech lobby feign outrage when they dont like whats said.
Passive aggressive is a bit rich, given you wrote this:
as for the some of the rawk style bleating here, thats a tad more eye opening.
 

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I want to be involved in this so called education session, need to get the angle their coming from... purely for comedy reasons as let me be honest it will be wrong.

Honestly I am sickened by the FA. This is a disgraceful thing they have done especially considering all the time they had to ponder the charge... those they could have consulted etc.

I understand why the club haven't taken it further... they're a worldwide brand and are in damage limitation mode... but things like this drive me insane.
 

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Oh FA, you never fail to disappoint me.

Racist organization, like it has always been.
 

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Are you kidding me? A personal post to a personal friend in your local language is considered racist? 3 match ban? No one in that exchange was offended. How stupid do you have to be? Truly the FA are corrupt Anything But United fecktards.
 

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But I get your question and where you're coming from. Referring to someone by their defining physical features i.e big nose, blondie, and of course the term that was used, can be seen as a bit infintile in our culture. It's certainly something one may hear used as teasing in school. But hey, it's South American culture and I think we ought to respect the way they speak, as anyone should for any culture. So I get where you coming from but again there are a lot of oddities in cultures and languages that people just don't understand sometimes and that's perfectly okay.
Yeah that’s a fair take, for sure
 

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We saw it with that PSG game where the ref's crime was to point to a group of staff, all dressed similarly and differentiate by saying "the black guy".

I was startled by how many people thought that was something to get upset about as opposed to merely the easiest way to quickly point someone out.
Its the new norm about political correctness. Being old school I'm frightened to open my mouth for fear of accidentally saying something that upsets the snowflakes.
 

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Classy response from United.


Manchester United also issued the following statement:

“As he has stated, Edinson Cavani wasn’t aware that his words could have been misconstrued and he sincerely apologised for the post and to anyone who was offended.

“Despite his honest belief that he was simply sending an affectionate thank-you in response to a congratulatory message from a close friend, he chose not to contest the charge, out of respect for, and solidarity with, the FA and the fight against racism in football.

“While it is clear that context and intent are key factors, we note that the independent Regulatory Commission was required to impose a minimum three-game suspension. The club trusts that the independent Regulatory Commission will make it clear in its written reasons that Edinson Cavani is not a racist, nor was there any racist intent in relation to his post.”
 

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Right decision by the club to accept the decision. The wording saying that the FA should make clear that it is accepted that Cavani did not intend to be racist is clever. Both the club and Cavani come out of this looking strong.
 

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I assure you that this whole thing will not help the fight against racism one little bit. That's the worst thing for me, they use a genuine cause that's worth fighting for and they're turning it with their own spin. It's all about P.R, it's always has been.
 

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Sounds like the face to face re education is a bit like a speed awareness course.

“can anybody tell me the reasons why people might be racist?”

“...
Classy response from United.


Manchester United also issued the following statement:

“As he has stated, Edinson Cavani wasn’t aware that his words could have been misconstrued and he sincerely apologised for the post and to anyone who was offended.

“Despite his honest belief that he was simply sending an affectionate thank-you in response to a congratulatory message from a close friend, he chose not to contest the charge, out of respect for, and solidarity with, the FA and the fight against racism in football.

“While it is clear that context and intent are key factors, we note that the independent Regulatory Commission was required to impose a minimum three-game suspension. The club trusts that the independent Regulatory Commission will make it clear in its written reasons that Edinson Cavani is not a racist, nor was there any racist intent in relation to his post.”
So the FA are going to confirm they are now banning people for things that aren’t racist because racism exists? It’s a good response from United though.
 

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good shout
With so much money at stake I'm absolutely astonished that the big clubs don't already do this.
They take every step they can possibly take in fitness/treatment/right training etc, yet leave this risk open of having a player ruled out for 3 games or more.
No. That’s insane.

The FA needs to be burned to the ground.

This is a such a passive weak willed country. The guy did nothing wrong. The FA is being racist. But people are advocating for a prehistoric entity here. This is not what we should get owith.

The FA needs an education. It is simply too far behind the times to rule on this kind of thing.

This how dragged out nonsense has been ridiculous from start to finish. I hope Cavani writes the same thing after every match. Shit, he can tweet it at half time if he likes. Every South American footballer should follow suit. It’s infuriating.
 

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I assure you that this whole thing will not help the fight against racism one little bit. That's the worst thing for me, they use a genuine cause that's worth fighting for and they're turning it with their own spin. It's all about P.R, it's always has been.
It surely makes it worse as they're basically saying you cannot say a word in another language that sounds like a racist one in English? That's what this boils down to ultimately. They're fecking morons.
 

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What I don't get (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that Cavani's friend doesn't even appear to be black (I'm going by the picture he posted on Instagram.) Of course his friend might be of mixed race, but it would appear to me that the term isn't an explicit reference to the friend's race. And if that is the case, are we then going to punish someone who refers to a friend as a 'brown-noser'? I hope we never hear anyone refer to a chink in the armour... I'm exaggerating and posting in a way that is completely devoid of nuance, much like the FA's judgment of Cavani.
 

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The real trick here is the face to face education. He'll probably have to self-isolate for 10 days after that.
 

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What I don't get (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that Cavani's friend doesn't even appear to be black (I'm going by the picture he posted on Instagram.) Of course his friend might be of mixed race, but it would appear to me that the term isn't an explicit reference to the friend's race. And if that is the case, are we then going to punish someone who refers to a friend as a 'brown-noser'? I hope we never hear anyone refer to a chink in the armour... I'm exaggerating and posting in a way that is completely devoid of nuance, much like the FA's judgment of Cavani.
The word can be used to describe physical features i.e. hair/eyebrows

Even a white person with a tan
 

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Classy response from United.


Manchester United also issued the following statement:

“As he has stated, Edinson Cavani wasn’t aware that his words could have been misconstrued and he sincerely apologised for the post and to anyone who was offended.

“Despite his honest belief that he was simply sending an affectionate thank-you in response to a congratulatory message from a close friend, he chose not to contest the charge, out of respect for, and solidarity with, the FA and the fight against racism in football.

“While it is clear that context and intent are key factors, we note that the independent Regulatory Commission was required to impose a minimum three-game suspension. The club trusts that the independent Regulatory Commission will make it clear in its written reasons that Edinson Cavani is not a racist, nor was there any racist intent in relation to his post.”
Perfect response I’d say
 

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Graceful and mature response from Cavani and Man Utd PR.

The real question now: will the governing body members of the FA enroll in an education course as well?