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Hmm, I wonder where that 100k will go......
good shoutWell this is the interesting part to it.
It's not like he's come to England and used the "n" word that everyone in England knows to be offensive.
He's used a word in his own language that appears to have different meanings - and clearly used it in a friendly way (unlike Suarez's embarrassing defence of his own use of whatever he said)
The only way forward for clubs is to have players get every post approved by the PR team.
You'd be furious if you were manager losing a player for the same length of time as some sort of horrific challenge on the pitch.
The FA said in a statement: “Edinson Cavani has been suspended for three games, fined £100,000 and must complete face-to-face education after admitting a charge for a breach of FA Rule E3 in relation to a social media post on Sunday 29 November 2020.”
Comedy on highest level.
I wouldn't put the blame on him or the club. You'd have to have a IQ of 190 to keep up with what offends the snowflakes these days.I blame the club for not giving him a list of words that he should never use on social media in any context, especially considering we now live in the days of social witch hunts and public shaming. This can't be the first "social faux pas" they've had from a player totally unaccustomed to English culture.
good shout
Disagree. The club should have briefed him much more thoroughly.I wouldn't put the blame on him or the club. You'd have to have a IQ of 190 to keep up with what offends the snowflakes these days.
I wouldn't put the blame on him or the club. You'd have to have a IQ of 190 to keep up with what offends the snowflakes these days.
The FA said in a statement: “Edinson Cavani has been suspended for three games, fined £100,000 and must complete face-to-face education after admitting a charge for a breach of FA Rule E3 in relation to a social media post on Sunday 29 November 2020.”
Comedy on highest level.
But I get your question and where you're coming from. Referring to someone by their defining physical features i.e big nose, blondie, and of course the term that was used, can be seen as a bit infintile in our culture. It's certainly something one may hear used as teasing in school. But hey, it's South American culture and I think we ought to respect the way they speak, as anyone should for any culture. So I get where you coming from but again there are a lot of oddities in cultures and languages that people just don't understand sometimes and that's perfectly okay.Yeah you may well be right. I just think with it being close to a direct translation there are questions that can be asked of a potential issue there. I did see a post earlier in the thread from a Latin American that aired similar views. Happy to be wrong though. Could definitely just be a poor understanding from myself.
He was in and out of the team with a niggle I think. He's only just started playing a full 90 minutesHe's been fit for a few weeks hasn't he?
Part of me is annoyed that the club took it but I guess from their statement they're not impressed but trying not to appear like they're undermining the fight against racism.
The specific wording from the FA is OTT.. couldn't they just have said "charge, 3 games"? And the face to face education is laughable... w@nkers.
I imagine social media will be watching footballers posts now and dissecting it with a fine tooth comb. The FA better stomp on anything even remotely similar going forward.
And how long do you think it would take the club to De brief him on all cultures across the globe? He'd have to read a encyclopaedia before he could play for the club and remember everything in it.Disagree. The club should have briefed him much more thoroughly.
Passive aggressive is a bit rich, given you wrote this:not passing any judgement, that is the FA's job. bigger and better in terms of the process and the experience, I cant imagine it was anything but difficult for him. and as for the passive aggressive nature of your comment, i take it only opinions that agree with your judgement are acceptable? odd how the free speech lobby feign outrage when they dont like whats said.
as for the some of the rawk style bleating here, thats a tad more eye opening.
Yeah that’s a fair take, for sureBut I get your question and where you're coming from. Referring to someone by their defining physical features i.e big nose, blondie, and of course the term that was used, can be seen as a bit infintile in our culture. It's certainly something one may hear used as teasing in school. But hey, it's South American culture and I think we ought to respect the way they speak, as anyone should for any culture. So I get where you coming from but again there are a lot of oddities in cultures and languages that people just don't understand sometimes and that's perfectly okay.
Its the new norm about political correctness. Being old school I'm frightened to open my mouth for fear of accidentally saying something that upsets the snowflakes.We saw it with that PSG game where the ref's crime was to point to a group of staff, all dressed similarly and differentiate by saying "the black guy".
I was startled by how many people thought that was something to get upset about as opposed to merely the easiest way to quickly point someone out.
Classy response from United.
Manchester United also issued the following statement:
“As he has stated, Edinson Cavani wasn’t aware that his words could have been misconstrued and he sincerely apologised for the post and to anyone who was offended.
“Despite his honest belief that he was simply sending an affectionate thank-you in response to a congratulatory message from a close friend, he chose not to contest the charge, out of respect for, and solidarity with, the FA and the fight against racism in football.
“While it is clear that context and intent are key factors, we note that the independent Regulatory Commission was required to impose a minimum three-game suspension. The club trusts that the independent Regulatory Commission will make it clear in its written reasons that Edinson Cavani is not a racist, nor was there any racist intent in relation to his post.”
good shout
With so much money at stake I'm absolutely astonished that the big clubs don't already do this.
They take every step they can possibly take in fitness/treatment/right training etc, yet leave this risk open of having a player ruled out for 3 games or more.
It surely makes it worse as they're basically saying you cannot say a word in another language that sounds like a racist one in English? That's what this boils down to ultimately. They're fecking morons.I assure you that this whole thing will not help the fight against racism one little bit. That's the worst thing for me, they use a genuine cause that's worth fighting for and they're turning it with their own spin. It's all about P.R, it's always has been.
Yeah you're right, confirmed to miss Villa now.Didn't United already say we have accepted it?
The word can be used to describe physical features i.e. hair/eyebrowsWhat I don't get (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that Cavani's friend doesn't even appear to be black (I'm going by the picture he posted on Instagram.) Of course his friend might be of mixed race, but it would appear to me that the term isn't an explicit reference to the friend's race. And if that is the case, are we then going to punish someone who refers to a friend as a 'brown-noser'? I hope we never hear anyone refer to a chink in the armour... I'm exaggerating and posting in a way that is completely devoid of nuance, much like the FA's judgment of Cavani.
Classy response from United.
Manchester United also issued the following statement:
“As he has stated, Edinson Cavani wasn’t aware that his words could have been misconstrued and he sincerely apologised for the post and to anyone who was offended.
“Despite his honest belief that he was simply sending an affectionate thank-you in response to a congratulatory message from a close friend, he chose not to contest the charge, out of respect for, and solidarity with, the FA and the fight against racism in football.
“While it is clear that context and intent are key factors, we note that the independent Regulatory Commission was required to impose a minimum three-game suspension. The club trusts that the independent Regulatory Commission will make it clear in its written reasons that Edinson Cavani is not a racist, nor was there any racist intent in relation to his post.”
Face to face education on how to speak his own language. Can't make this shit up.