I don’t care about sentiment. Class of 92’s come once a lifetime. Our last title win was spearheaded by a Dutchman, our last CL by a Portuguese. It doesn’t matter to me if our team is all British or no homegrown at all. I only care about if you’re good enough to take us back to the top. We had local lad Lingard playing 10 for us & we were midtable, we brought in Portuguese Bruno & got 3rd. How many scousers were in the Liverpool team that won the league? One, Trent, because he’s good enough. There’s a reason why Flanagan, Spearing, Kelly, etc aren’t there anymore.
This is a point that should be repeated. There were a lot of people on here only too happy to criticize Mourinho even when he was getting decent results but then wouldn't want to hear a single bad word about Ole even when he was doing badly.
“My opinion is the correct opinion, if you disagree with me you’re not a real fan”
Sounds like something a 90s/00s Liverpool fan would say.
It's a major part of it. Quite a few people on here, I suspect, learned about Manchester United as a club by playing the FIFA games, which explains why they think transfers are simple matters of numbers and never quite grasp that there's a human being involved.
Implying that you as a fan have a choice in whether we win trophies or not
You don’t care about sentiment, about the the traditions and romanticism of United?
)It is true though. One of my reasons for signing up was because I thought I could add a little positivity, but you just get drowned out and called an Ole inner and I can't talk sense because of my username.
Yes.
Someone has actually listed the reasons that I was negative about Mourinho in here. They linked to a fantastic thread that spoke to United’s ideology and how Mourinho went against that. Ultimately, what we are arguing here is that I felt Solskjaer fit United’s history more than Mourinho... that is undeniable.
Because I am from Manchester & my family do. I didn’t choose United like most on here, it’s just all I know.
A lot of people were against the toxicity over Mourinho too, but it HAS to be said a lot of the toxicity was brought on by Mourinho himself (literally slating our own club in press conferences near the end for fecks sake). Nobody is saying the toxicity was right then, and to be honest it was over the top a bit even then, but it's got even worse now, stop pretending it's not and derailing the thread through whataboutisms and ad hominem attacks.
To be fair to your point, the reasons Keane left were a lot more nuanced than I suggested and I'm sorry about that, but PLENTY of players have had just as succesful careers without finding the need to rip apart and embarass their team mates on a public broadcast. He says himself the fine he got for that interview (£5000) was ultimately the reason he walked away, annd that's fair enough, but you're not wrong, he was playing less and less. Nobody here is Roy Keane though. And it's a bit tiring because there is a big difference between constructive criticism and debate, and personal abuse. Darren Fletcher said himself there is a "middle ground" somewhere in this interview https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...l-news/darren-fletcher-keane-man-utd-17244555 "
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