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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55617849
Brexit leaves Spain's Costa Brits facing dilemmas

"For any UK citizens arriving now, here are some of the differences.

For tourists, including people who have second homes in the country but haven't taken residency, you can no longer come and go as you please. You can spend up to three months out of every six here.

To be able to live in Spain now, you will need to show proof that you're earning, either through having a contract with a Spanish company, or by proving that you have at least £2,000 (€2,223; $2,705) a month coming into your account.

For a family, it will be much more. You will need to show that you have an extra £500 a month for each member of the family. For example, a family of four will need to prove they earn a yearly salary of at least £42,000.

British driving licences will also need to be changed to Spanish ones."

Lots of older Brits leaving Spain, those that wanted to go probably won't now so the landscape will change a lot over the coming years.

Always seemed odd that people would vote to remove the chance to retire in a nicer country.
 
redshaw said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55617849
Brexit leaves Spain's Costa Brits facing dilemmas

"For any UK citizens arriving now, here are some of the differences.

For tourists, including people who have second homes in the country but haven't taken residency, you can no longer come and go as you please. You can spend up to three months out of every six here.

To be able to live in Spain now, you will need to show proof that you're earning, either through having a contract with a Spanish company, or by proving that you have at least £2,000 (€2,223; $2,705) a month coming into your account.

For a family, it will be much more. You will need to show that you have an extra £500 a month for each member of the family. For example, a family of four will need to prove they earn a yearly salary of at least £42,000.

British driving licences will also need to be changed to Spanish ones."

Lots of older Brits leaving Spain, those that wanted to go probably won't now so the landscape will change a lot over the coming years.

Always seemed odd that people would vote to remove the chance to retire in a nicer country.
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They did as well. I don't know if it's the same with expats in other EU countries as Spain seems to attract most of the riff raff.

 
Hate the fact they call them "expat" but I am called an immigrant. Annoys me more than it should. Find it an insult.
 
Adisa said:
Hate the fact they call them "expat" but I am called an immigrant. Annoys me more than it should. Find it an insult.
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'Expat' to me always meant someone who lived somewhere temporarily for professional reasons, but I see Merriam-Webster defines is simply as 'a person who lives in a foreign country'. In any case, I agree that its use here for retired people is clearly a case of double standards, to use an euphemism. (Immigrants are those non-whites at home, so one of 'us' abroad can't called be immigrants.)
 
The Firestarter said:
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I was inspired by this comment

There are alternatives fruit and veg in tins, or frozen veg! In winter I buy less fresh vegetables, as salads are more of spring and summer season, and I prefer different kind of soups and I only have one meal in the evening as I don't feel hungry in winte!!

But media and Remoaners always drag Brexit into everything nowadays! Also Spain was hit by snow storms so forget fresh veg and fruits for few weeks!!
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https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/sainsburys-shoppers-shocked-empty-fresh-4876680
 
Maticmaker said:
Its the Dutch 'Hamming it up'!!! Just a 'pi**-take get over it!

Food is always a good one. I remember the Falklands and Argentine prisoners complaining to the Red Cross that all they got fed by the Brits was Frey Bentos corn beef.
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If you start running out of food, I'll send you a Red Cross Parcel - (if it gets through customs).
 
Paul the Wolf said:
If you start running out of food, I'll send you a Red Cross Parcel - (if it gets through customs).
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:lol: Yes please Paul; Fish (Cod of course), Chips (the real thing not french fries) and Mushy peas... if Red Cross cannot oblige try 'Just eat'
 
Maticmaker said:
Its the Dutch 'Hamming it up'!!! Just a 'pi**-take get over it!
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If you leave the EU you can't complain when you are forced to comply with biosecurity regulations that safeguard the EU when crossing the border into the EU.
 
Who gives a feck about some wrinkly old codgers in Europe. They probably voted for this in great numbers. Let them rot.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
perspective. You are looking from one side. They are probably called immigrants from the Spanish perspective.
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We usually call most of the immigrants by the country of origin and when you are fecked up in Magaluf and the like, fecking english (in spanish) or hooligans
 
4bars said:
We usually call most of the immigrants by the country of origin and when you are fecked up in Magaluf and the like, fecking english (in spanish) or hooligans
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If I was ever going to emigrate to Spain, the last place in my list would be Magaluf!

actually went there once on a day trip with my parents - 20+ years ago, in November! Every bar was offering a “full English” and playing Only Fools and Horses...

Personally I’d live in Saville or Madrid. Never liked Barcelona.

I don’t know whether leaving the EU is a blessing or a curse for Magaluf type of places..?
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
If I was ever going to emigrate to Spain, the last place in my list would be Magaluf!

actually went there once on a day trip with my parents - 20+ years ago, in November! Every bar was offering a “full English” and playing Only Fools and Horses...

Personally I’d live in Saville or Madrid. Never liked Barcelona.

I don’t know whether leaving the EU is a blessing or a curse for Magaluf type of places..?
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Those cockroaches with businesses in Magaluf will always find people for their derranged type of business model. Believe me, brits are not the only ones, spanish included. There are better places than Seville, Madrid or Barcelona. Those are too big of a cities to fully immigrate IMO
 
4bars said:
Those cockroaches with businesses in Magaluf will always find people for their derranged type of business model. Believe me, brits are not the only ones, spanish included. There are better places than Seville, Madrid or Barcelona. Those are too big of a cities to fully immigrate IMO
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Am glad it’s not just the brits!

potentially in terms of integration. But I currently live in London, have done for a decade, and love the City life - I have no intention of moving into the sticks, in the UK or elsewhere. I know I might be in the minority these days, but honestly, a sleepy city/ town is my idea of hell. For holidays and relaxing, yes, but not to live. Buzz, noise, and events are what I love.
 
Adisa said:
Hate the fact they call them "expat" but I am called an immigrant. Annoys me more than it should. Find it an insult.
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I refer to myself as an immigrant in Italy. It helps me remember it's their rules that apply here. "Ex-pat" is something I'd say about someone who's living abroad for a set period of time and fully intends to permanently return to their home country.
 
Much more win from Brexit?

City of London’s Plight Laid Bare as Brexit Deal Hopes Fade

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(Bloomberg) -- Just over a week in, the City of London is coming to a hardening realization about its post-Brexit future: a financial services accord with the European Union may be too little, too late to protect its dominant position.

Negotiations are set to kick off soon to determine the outlines of regulatory co-operation between the U.K. and EU, after the industry was largely sidelined in the trade deal that marked Britain’s split from the EU on Dec. 31. A March deadline has been set and so far details -- including who will head up the discussions -- are scarce.

The early days of Brexit have laid bare the stakes: London lost 6.3 billion euros ($7.7 billion) in daily stock trades to EU venues on Jan. 4, the first business day after the transition period. The overnight loss added impetus to calls by financial firms and London’s stock exchange to policy makers to ease rules and help the City get a competitive edge over European rivals.

One such move emerged over the weekend, with the U.K. Treasury saying it plans to allow trading in Swiss shares, reversing an EU ban on the activity. London’s ability to offer trading in firms like Nestle SA and Roche Holding AG will help compensate for some of the loss in EU shares. But the stance also deepens the U.K.’s division with the EU, making the bloc less likely to offer market access.

Those talks -- centered around a principle called “equivalence” -- are open-ended, without the deadline that governed the trade deal. Little progress has been made on the majority of areas.

European officials have little incentive to hammer out an agreement while financial hubs from Paris to Amsterdam win business at London’s expense. Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey sounded a downbeat note last week, saying access to the bloc must not hinge on Brussels dictating standards.

While dramatic, the loss of EU shares is unlikely to have a discernible impact yet on the tax generated by the business in the U.K., which was more than 3 billion pounds last year. But it was an immediate warning of the potential costs of Brexit. As a whole, the Square Mile accounted for about 75 billion pounds in tax in 2019, including employment taxes, according to the City of London Corporation.

“EU share trading has gone, it will not return,” said David Howson, president of Cboe Europe, the biggest venue for EU shares in London. The firm has seen nearly 95% of this business move, Howson said on Bloomberg Television on Thursday.

Bankers and asset managers said the week was otherwise largely disruption-free. That was due to years of preparation by firms, some of which involved moving business -- although less than initially feared -- out of the U.K.

Firms like JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. have already shifted scores of jobs and hundreds of billions of dollars in assets, while asset managers including Janus Henderson Group Plc and Standard Life Aberdeen Plc are using funds in Luxembourg and Ireland for clients inside the bloc.



https://finance.yahoo.com/news/city-london-plight-laid-bare-050000986.html
 
4bars said:
The rules are not invented. But frankly, do you think they take the food of truckers from lets say Belarus a the polish border? or from switzerland? ....
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It definitely happens. I have witnessed it at airports and also on the Hungarian border (Hungarians are very thorough on the border, they act quite professionally.)
I have also heard from lorry drivers from outside the EU that they are hiding their food when they need to enter the EU. (They can‘t afford to buy their food within the EU.)
 
UweBein said:
It definitely happens. I have witnessed it at airports and also on the Hungarian border (Hungarians are very thorough on the border, they act quite professionally.)
I have also heard from lorry drivers from outside the EU that they are hiding their food when they need to enter the EU. (They can‘t afford to buy their food within the EU.)
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Thanks for the input! It might be that is on the news only then. But if it happens everywhere, is what it is
 
TheGame said:
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Must. Not. Take. Pleasure.

I mean obviously a vote to rejoin any time in the next few years would be incredibly damaging and I'd imagine the EU would say no in the short term anyway because of the damage and stress a member state leaving causes. But I wonder if this guy and the eel guy would vote differently now if the vote were to be held again?

I do agree of course to some extent that of course part of this is business getting used to a new reality with very short notice and over time, things will re-calibrate away from how they've been working for decades. But things will obviously greatly change and in most ways, not for the better. IMO anyway.
 
Has anybody on here pointed out that apparently the reason the UK has the vaccine first is because of Brexit?

That's quite a big win.

Some proper moaning on here.
 
Hughes35 said:
Has anybody on here pointed out that apparently the reason the UK has the vaccine first is because of Brexit?

That's quite a big win.

Some proper moaning on here.
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How did we get the vaccine first because of Brexit?
 
Hughes35 said:
Has anybody on here pointed out that apparently the reason the UK has the vaccine first is because of Brexit?

That's quite a big win.

Some proper moaning on here.
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They pointed it out and got promptly talked down because its total codswallop.

The EU would have preferred to have an EU wide approach and has (mostly) succeeded in this but countries are always free to do their own emergency authorisations or deals. Germany for instance have done their own deals with pfizer as they were unhappy with how certain procurements happened and have vaccinated at a far faster rate than either France or the Netherlands.
 
Hughes35 said:
Has anybody on here pointed out that apparently the reason the UK has the vaccine first is because of Brexit?

That's quite a big win.

Some proper moaning on here.
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Who told you that?

Should I play guess the media outlet?

edit: Oh no, its because you believe JRM and Matt Hancock without question. Wow.
 
africanspur said:
They pointed it out and got promptly talked down because its total codswallop.

The EU would have preferred to have an EU wide approach and has (mostly) succeeded in this but countries are always free to do their own emergency authorisations or deals. Germany for instance have done their own deals with pfizer as they were unhappy with how certain procurements happened and have vaccinated at a far faster rate than either France or the Netherlands.
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I want to point out that there is no reasonable way to compare rates between countries when they don't have the same strategies, in France the strategy has been to focus on care homes and health workers first. So it's not about the vaccine itself but strategic decisions from the health administration.
 
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