I'm just trying to establish facts is all, you're the one jumping to conclusions based on limited information.
The Everton bloke mentioned voodoo as a joke because of Lukaku's heritage. Its racist.
Because it’s often used as a baseless insult to people of African heritage?
Zlatan was nowhere near the foul, lukaku made a big incident out of the foul with a lot of players so inevitably they came face to face
He was fouled by somebody else. But Lukaku for some reason, picked up the fight with loads of Milan players. Not sure at what point he decided to go head to head with Zlatan.
Shit, I don't know.
Pretty sure you’ve just made that up given that Lukaku hasn’t even commented on the situation or made any accusations of racism.
I think the majority of people have acknowledged that Ibrahimovic probably didn’t have any racist intent. Not really sure what you’re arguing to be honest.
Uhh I associate it with the Caribbean actually.
That wasn't the impression I got reading the last few pages.
Where is Darmian with long hair?
Not as good as Suarez. He had Ever proper rattled.Zlatan is truly the king of wind ups.Whether he said "wooden shed", "voodoo shit" or " your touch is shit", it clearly worked and rattled Lukaku.
People trying to claim Ibrahimovic is racist for this incident are just making themselves look silly. There has probably been personal issues between the two players since they were still at our club. I'd personally like to see more ferocity and personality from our own players in the future, the very best teams are never nice and friendly.
It very much was the time for it. Impeccable timing by Ibrahimovic.
I don't think Zlatan is a racist at all.
I dont consider him a racist. It's maybe a discriminatory remark but definitely not a racist remark. Zlatan is no racist in my book. As duffer said the Everton boss definitely had racial motivations for his insults.
Which is also inhabitated by a lot people of African descent. But that's ok. We are humans. We just cant turn that engine in our heads off when we associate certrain things with certain peoples. It's the nature of the beast. The problem is, is what we do with it. PC culture is making things so harder for everybody is my point.
Zlatan is a prick then, but Lukaku has been disgraceful by resorting to b**** and slurs right away. I am not sure he wants to fight Zlatan though, I think Zlatan might be a psychopath and if I were Lukaku, I would be very careful.
Well, in this case I was being deliberately obtuse, but I think you knew that.
I am not sure, but that has something to do with Jose. Lukaky chose to stand by Jose and be a "good soldier", at the expense of Pogba... and he probably said some BS about thinking of leaving the club from the 2nd game and all. Pogba, for all his issues, is still a Manchester United fan and youth academy player.
Exactly, that was my point as well. Zlatan has even talked about Lukaku's bad touch and how he would give him 50 pounds every time he managed to properly control the ball.
Who is Ever and what does that have to do with this altercation between Ibrahimovic and Lukaku?
Intuitively I would say that you are far from the only one. Voodoo comes from West Africa, mainly from countries that are in the Gulf of Guinea and it's present in the Caribbean due to slavery.
Ever is my phone's nickname for Evra. I think it's pretty relevant.
I strongly disagree. There is nothing similar between what Suarez said to Evra and what happened between Zlatan and Romelu.
Would love to see how many have actually called Zlatan racist, because from what I can see, it looks like you came into this thread determined to prove that the word Voodo wasn’t even used, before trying to deny a the possibility of any racist implications of baselessly associating someone of African heritage with Voodoo, and now you’re saying that people are accusing Zlatan of being a racist.
It's a little sad but I think most people in England only know anything at all about Voodoo because of Live and Let Die (James bond film).
Yeah but we all know he'd miss.
He has always been an unlikable cnut. Why stop now?
It was more from the Monkey Island games and the Pirates of the Caribbean movies for me personally
Suarez knew Evra would react strongly to racial abuse due to prior incidents and took advantage. It clearly worked.
I don't think that it's limited to England, generally people have little knowledge about other continents folklore. Cinema and now TV are a window on the world and sometimes an inaccurate one.
Yeah exactly
A witch!!!
I don't think it's inherently racist, but I think the first image that springs to mind in people in the west is black magic through voodoo dolls. I don't think the average person in the west has a clue what it's about unless they put some effort into understanding it.
This is definitely VOODOO SHIT. Not wooden shed. At all. And I think Lukaku went all in, because it involves his mother delivering the message in Everton. Never in a million years is it wooden shed.
