I think they do. Especially ones working in nursery or with younger children which makes social distancing difficult in the workplace.The question is do teachers deserve it sooner than those in the priority groups?
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I think they do. Especially ones working in nursery or with younger children which makes social distancing difficult in the workplace.The question is do teachers deserve it sooner than those in the priority groups?
Patrol the fecking parks! Jesus where is this going to end.They’re on the news now saying they need more guards to patrol the parks after yesterday. Makes me think Phoenix park was jammers
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Yeah if we try to walk through our local “park”, it’s busy and not a mask in sightPatrol the fecking parks! Jesus where is this going to end.
It is the ludicrous 5km rule that is driving people to the parks in the first place.
I am going to my local park 100 times a week as is everyone else and honestly its getting congested on the pathways.
Not sure if you've read his entire thread or just that tweet but I don't think he's trying to be 'well hard'. He's just saying if it goes beyond that point he'll be ruined anyway so that's when he'll have reached such a point of desperation.Such an empty threat. Well 'ard.
And if it’s not ok by then he will be force closed and have a big fine to pay. A bit of a silly thing to broadcast on social mediaHopefully he’ll be allowed to open legally by then anyway.Tweet
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Well they couldn't even get it down under 300 in November so I'm not sure how they can expect to get it under 100. It's ridiculous. Hospital admissions are surely what matters and they are way down again by now.Well I keep hearing this “under 100” magic number on the news, we’re at what, just under 700 a day at the mo?
anyway I’m just pissed off. I’m sick of the area I live in being the highest in the entire country. They’re all dumbfcuks round here. Even Paul Donnelly (SF) had to tell people to stop congregating around the village
A lot of industries make it difficult to socially distance though.I think they do. Especially ones working in nursery or with younger children which makes social distancing difficult in the workplace.
Won't be square one though will it. Is there any variant which isn't covered by the current vaccines?Stupid setting out this road map, saying it is based on data, when basically no one has a clue what is going to happen, how effective the vaccines are going to be, what elements the new variants are going to play. Even the most knowledgeable experts don't seem to have the vaguest idea of what's going to happen when people start mingling again.
I get everyone wants certainty, but offering false certainty is just nonsense. I also get that the country is borrowing money at an unsustainable rate and that needs to end soon. But there is every chance that as soon as we open a new variant will spread and we will be back to square one.
Government needs to be honest, with people about that. Boris said he was going to be data lead this certainly isn't data lead its "hope" lead
Phoenix Park, I haven't thought of that place for years! My dad and uncle used to take me there whenever we visited my Grandparents and other relatives. That's just taken me right back.They’re on the news now saying they need more guards to patrol the parks after yesterday. Makes me think Phoenix park was jammers
Haha enjoy the memories. Lovely parkPhoenix Park, I haven't thought of that place for years! My dad and uncle used to take me there whenever we visited my Grandparents and other relatives. That's just taken me right back.
Its based on data modeling, and roadmaps are never plans set in stone. Its stupid not to have any sort of framework people can atleast work around. Do you just want them to come out and say "we are playing it by ear"? That's practically what they did at the start...and that was a catastropheStupid setting out this road map, saying it is based on data, when basically no one has a clue what is going to happen, how effective the vaccines are going to be, what elements the new variants are going to play. Even the most knowledgeable experts don't seem to have the vaguest idea of what's going to happen when people start mingling again.
I get everyone wants certainty, but offering false certainty is just nonsense. I also get that the country is borrowing money at an unsustainable rate and that needs to end soon. But there is every chance that as soon as we open a new variant will spread and we will be back to square one.
Government needs to be honest, with people about that. Boris said he was going to be data lead this certainly isn't data lead its "hope" lead
I really wish people would realise that bringing up Diane Abbot every single time someone speaks like an idiot, detracts from the fact that someone has just spoke like an idiot.I eagerly look forward to all of the Caf posters who, over the years, have mentioned Diane Abbot getting her numbers wrong as reasons not to vote Labour applying the same logic to this clip.
Yeah, from what I remember. Last I was over there they'd demolished almost the whole area where my Grandparents lived. I really need to do a visit, not been since I lost my dad, good few years now, sadly I live further than 5kHaha enjoy the memories. Lovely park
Where was your grandparents area?Yeah, from what I remember. Last I was over there they'd demolished almost the whole area where my Grandparents lived. I really need to do a visit, not been since I lost my dad, good few years now, sadly I live further than 5k
The old Cabra area. They lived on a row of terraces. last time I went I was working over there and took a drive. It had all changed. My only remaining relatives (other than the million cousins I don't know) over there are in Howth.Where was your grandparents area?
yes, that is what I want them to say, cos that's exactly what they are doing, setting any kind of road map when absalutly no one has a clue whats going to happen is pointless. It just sets people expectations based on data modelling that no one knows if its even vaguely accurate. Its just nonsense.Its based on data modeling, and roadmaps are never plans set in stone. Its stupid not to have any sort of framework people can atleast work around. Do you just want them to come out and say "we are playing it by ear"? That's practically what they did at the start...and that was a catastrophe
I’ve actually seen a video of him where he is secretly being filmed and doing just that. Ruffing his hair up before an interviewThat's his style, he ruffs it up on purpose before interviews to play up to his clown image.
Mine are from the Old Western Villas at Dalymount park - not a million miles away.The old Cabra area. They lived on a row of terraces. last time I went I was working over there and took a drive. It had all changed. My only remaining relatives (other than the million cousins I don't know) over there are in Howth.
That is no one knows, how effective any of the vaccines are against the South African variant, or the brazil variant. There is also still some questions about the Kent variant. The uncertainty seems to be even higher when it comes to how the Oxford Vaccine will protect against the variants, which is the vaccine the UK has ordered the most doses of so the 1 likely to be received by most people. Plus these are just the current variants.Won't be square one though will it. Is there any variant that isn't covered by the current vaccines?
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Well thats what the vaccine roll out has been based on, there is also data from Israel to work from.yes, that is what I want them to say, cos that's exactly what they are doing, setting any kind of road map when absalutly no one has a clue whats going to happen is pointless. It just sets people expectations based on data modelling that no one knows if its even vaguely accurate. Its just nonsense.
Last year they acted like they knew what they were doing, when they clearly didn't and there doing exactly the same again! Its far better to say "we don't know" then act as you do know!
Hopefully plenty more follow suitAnd if it’s not ok by then he will be force closed and have a big fine to pay. A bit of a silly thing to broadcast on social media
The vaccine rollout is based on whose vulnerable. Isreal is mainly using Pfizer, a lot of people in the UK are going to get the oxford one. the isreal data has really shown any meaningful data against the South African or Brazilian variants yet. So there are so many variables. Saying anything is data lead at this stage is just nonsense.Well thats what the vaccine roll out has been based on, there is also data from Israel to work from.
We are likely going to need modified booster shots every year for many years to come, so its a bit futile being obsessed with variants.The vaccine rollout is based on whose vulnerable. Isreal is mainly using Pfizer, a lot of people in the UK are going to get the oxford one. the isreal data has really shown any meaningful data against the South African or Brazilian variants yet. So there are so many variables. Saying anything is data lead at this stage is just nonsense.
The number of things we don't know massively out weighs the things we do know.
This plan or "road map" is just the government saying we need to say something so here's what we hope might happen. We live in a world where people are afraid to say "We don't know" and it just leads to more F'up's!
well it's not cos we currently don't know if we have a vaccine that works against the variants, we don't know how long it would take to get one, we don't know if we could create a vaccine that would instance cover both variants. We don't know if by next winter more variants will be around.We are likely going to need modified booster shots every year for many years to come, so its a bit futile being obsessed with variants.
The Imperial College vaccine are already working on different variants and boosters, they stopped trials on the original dominate variant when others started appearing, and their self amplifying RNA technology allows them to switch tact very quickly, you should read it white paper, its the most interesting one so far as it can be stored in a normal fridge while other RNA ones cantwell it's not cos we currently don't know if we have a vaccine that works against the variants, we don't know how long it would take to get one, so we open up, the brazil or south African, we don't know if we could create a vaccine that would instance cover both variants. We don't know if by next winter more variants will be around.
So we open up one of the variants spreads, and we saw how quickly the kent one spread, it turns out one of the vaccines or all of them aren't effective against it. then we have to lockdown again.
It just pointless saying we know what going to happen cos we don't!
Although the headline is a bit preemptive, as several conditions need to be met to even get there, people should still be required to wear masks in enclosed indoor public spaces, imoWhy is nobody talking about the news of all social contacts being removed by 21 June? Have I missed the thread somewhere else?
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Absolutely superb newsWhy is nobody talking about the news of all social contacts being removed by 21 June? Have I missed the thread somewhere else?
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Absolutely.Although the headline is a bit preemptive, as several conditions need to be met to even get there, people should still be required to wear masks in enclosed indoor public spaces, imo
Indeed. It's great news but we've been gaslit the entire pandemic and there's more than a bit of "I'll believe it when I see it" to all this from me. Things can still go tits up.This reminds me of the post-match threads. When there's bad news, you get hundreds of posts. When it's good, hardly anything.
It’s an approach that’s never going to get us back to the top like we were under Churchill, Boris relying on scientific moments of brilliance to make up for a lack of strategy with any patterns of competence.This reminds me of the post-match threads. When there's bad news, you get hundreds of posts. When it's good, hardly anything.