I wonder if the news at 9.30 will be watered down after the backlash? Or are they going all in ‘feck you see you in court!’ style, it’s intriguing to say the least.
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Their league hasn't been invaded by oligarchs tbf.
Total disaster. The closed shop franchise system, around which team sports in NA are organised, just cuts right across how international football works. The damage will be enormous. And with UEFA fighting back and banning SL players from all tournaments, it will feck up international football too.
The worst of it is it takes clubs with a century of tradition right out of their own history and that context. Every individual and team record, every comparable from club history will just be so much dust. It will hugely diminish football. Sure it's fun to play Real Madrid, but as long as we can do that once every few years in the CL that's fine. I for one would rather see United play Southampton and Brighton twice a year than Bayern and PSG.
The worst of it is it takes clubs with a century of tradition right out of their own history and that context. Every individual and team record, every comparable from club history will just be so much dust. It will hugely diminish football. Sure it's fun to play Real Madrid, but as long as we can do that once every few years in the CL that's fine. I for one would rather see United play Southampton and Brighton twice a year than Bayern and PSG.
& they win the league almost every year & all the best players want to go there over Dortmund, of course they don't want to join the ESL, they got it easy in the Bundesliga
I know it boils down to greed vs greed
, one version acts like it cares about fans and the other just flat out says the fans can do onePlaying the likes of RM, Barca, etc... every week devalues the prestige of draws or ties that come when you get into the higher stages of European competitions. It would never last, especially if the included teams were also allowed to play in their domestic leagues and cups at the same time. Players would be run ragged and injuries more frequent. Terrible idea.
I think it will be purely about positioning it as an alternative to the CL and not being designed to undermine the domestic calendar.
Gary Neville said it spot on.
Thats what its supposed to be though?
I'd be happy as it alongside the CL, one week ESL, one week CL
Exactly, shitty teams from all over Europe that haven't won feck all and never will, they just happened to have a good season or so. You've got teams from Germany and France that haven't won their league competing for the CL, and that's not even mentioning the likes of the Romanian. Latvian, Danish teams etc that aren't even good enough for the Europa, yet they're in the group stage? How is that good to watch? How is that an elite competition?
You've got teams like United, AC Milan, Inter, PSV, Valencia, Roma etc who would add a lot more to that competition than FC Cluj, yet they can't get into the CL because every player wants to play CL football and they had one or two bad seasons and can't get back in and therefore can't get decent players.
It doesn't even help the small teams, they just end up monopolising their leagues because they get a windfall for £5m and that's more than their whole league is worth.
It's utter shite
So is this league going to just replace the PL or not?
I feel all our history would be gone then and nothing to build on it.
It would just ruin everything.
I feel all our history would be gone then and nothing to build on it.
It would just ruin everything.
There was a leak suggesting that a spending cap would be in place at 55% of revenue earned but I’m not sure how legitimate it is. I think this league is born out of frustration from Barce and Real at clubs like City and PSG throwing around oil money, they’ll be something in place.
I don't see how their fans would ever be in favor for this.
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How are Man City even fecking invited, they’ve won a few league titles, never won a champions league, got about ten fans, what criteria have they met other than having shitloads of money?
I think that's the idea yeah, all clubs involved will be extremely rich. Right now clubs like Barca are haemorrhaging money just to try and compete, the idea of this league is surely to try and level the playing field financially somewhat.
Exactly. All these clubs have hundreds of years of history, the ESL dilutes all of that.
Do the Glazers own all of the other signed up sides? Barca and Real too?
Ducker still doesn't understand the fecking point
You think City and PSG would agree to that?
Yeah I'm sure every young player dreams of bombing out of a major tournament at the group stage and being blamed for the loss while people burn effigies of them in the street
Think it is supposed to be an alternative to the supposed restructure of the CL. The big clubs want more money, not have it shared out to even more clubs. The problem then starts if said clubs are chucked out of their own league. It's a mess.
Haaland was offered £70,000 a week more by Utd apparently (allegedly)
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ected-deal-wage-salary-contract-a9264226.html
In big parts due to their faults, their solutions is a big treason to their faithful fans.
Tottenham out of all teams got an invite for this and they are a nothing club.
I hear you but then a few years ago I (and presumably Barcelona) never thought I'd see a player being bought for £200m and yet PSG paid that for Neymar.
PSG refused to join, City have agreed
Ehh, history is history. Did we lose any when the PL was formed?
This is purely for the moneybags. They would get everything their own way. It’s a shambles and I cannot believe that clubs have voted in favour of it.
Why are the Glazers getting all the shit for this?
Not the only ones.Never hear the media criticizing FSG.
No, it's an answer to UEFAs new Champions League vision from 2024.
And what about UEFA’s reformed Champions League? UEFA wants a new format for the Champions League from 2024, with one 36-team league replacing the current group stage, where every team plays 10 matches. This is called the ‘Swiss model’. Under the proposed format, by the time winner has lifted the European Cup, the competition will have produced 100 new games, and the finalists will have played at least 17 matches, four more than under the current system. Accommodating four additional games in the autumn will be a challenge for most national leagues, however, including in England, where the Carabao Cup would be under threat. Three of the four extra Champions League places would meanwhile go to clubs based on past performance in Europe, using the UEFA coefficient ranking system
Totally this! I feel it’s lazy for the media to blame the clubs associating to create the ESL while overlooking the total negligence and greed on the part of UEFA and some national leagues which created the environment for this.
I lay the full blame for this mess firmly at the foot of the corrupt bureaucrats at UEFA/FIFA/national leagues. The latest case in point being the announced (completely pointless) change in format of the CL. Permitting the takeovers of clubs which destroyed the ecosystem of the football landscape was always going to end in tears for everyone, and I mean everyone.
You what?
You'd think but who knows.
And even then it's a non competitive league. Tells you all you need to know why they don't want to join this super league...
Think it will be based on fan base and City's is growing. They want the TV audience.
Sounds like a mess. I like the current structure and CL as it is. 64 teams in CL would be fine too if they want to improve it, but group stage would get more boring potentially.
He never has, to be fair.