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Man City v Chelsea - The Champions League Final...

Who will win the Champions League final?


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KiD MoYeS

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I'm going to be depressed, so jealous of them having a top team with a top manager. Their past, present and future is bright. While we are stucked in mediocrity.
I've never been jealous of City, no matter how good they have become, because of how they achieved it.
 

SAFMUTD

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I've never been jealous of City, no matter how good they have become, because of how they achieved it.
For me it doesn't make a difference if they're oil funded or not. Taking away all the cheap moralism, they play great football, have top players and a top coach. I can perfectly understand younger generations supporting them, it's actually starting to happen.
 

adexkola

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Eh? The two better teams reached the final and they happen to be english this time, so what does it have to do with the 'spirit of Europe'?

There are two ways to see this final. On one hand two very good teams, two great managers, tactically very astute and each one with their own vision and a point to prove. Imo it will be a good game.

The other way is the snob-ish, partizan route with the mandatory 'muh oil money and muh no history' as if you weren't spending a dime or didn't raid other teams in your glory days (and still do). They're just doing it better than others at the moment and History has to begin somewhere to be written.
And I've never understood this.

Legitimate concerns about the influence of money in the game today and the activities of City's owners of course, but I don't understand why so many are fixated on the notion of "football royalty". For a section of society (at least in the UK) that's more prone to be anti-royalist, sounds a bit contradictory. I'm for more egalitarianism in the sport, period, with advantages to be obtained only through competence, not buying your way to the top. It's telling that those who speak about oil money had little to say when for years the traditional big clubs maintained their spots at the top through spending loads of money ("earned", they say).

Short of massive changes to the sport (squad limits, transfer/wage taxes, more radical redistribution of TV profits), I say, more oligarchs and billionaires please. Maybe that'll drive the point home. Or the sport will be utterly ruined. Either way works.
 

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And I've never understood this.

Legitimate concerns about the influence of money in the game today and the activities of City's owners of course, but I don't understand why so many are fixated on the notion of "football royalty". For a section of society (at least in the UK) that's more prone to be anti-royalist, sounds a bit contradictory. I'm for more egalitarianism in the sport, period, with advantages to be obtained only through competence, not buying your way to the top. It's telling that those who speak about oil money had little to say when for years the traditional big clubs maintained their spots at the top through spending loads of money ("earned", they say).

Short of massive changes to the sport (squad limits, transfer/wage taxes, more radical redistribution of TV profits), I say, more oligarchs and billionaires please. Maybe that'll drive the point home. Or the sport will be utterly ruined. Either way works.
Every success is bought. The traditionally big clubs are the plastic clubs of the past. They are where they are because they commercialised earlier than their peers back in the day.
 

Redfrog

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Eh? The two better teams reached the final and they happen to be english this time, so what does it have to do with the 'spirit of Europe'?

There are two ways to see this final. On one hand two very good teams, two great managers, tactically very astute and each one with their own vision and a point to prove. Imo it will be a good game.

The other way is the snob-ish, partizan route with the mandatory 'muh oil money and muh no history' as if you weren't spending a dime or didn't raid other teams in your glory days (and still do). They're just doing it better than others at the moment and History has to begin somewhere to be written.
Yeah right, the snobish way…Maybe, but people want to see great teams who could make you dream because they have their way, their traditions.

European spirit, don’t know what is it? If Europe was about to see teams from the same league then it would not exist. It is always more interesting to see clubs from different league play against each other not teams who played each other plenty already. Ask the players who they want to play against ? A team they can just face in Europe or the same old team ? I do know the answer.

Two great teams, give me a break…nothing great about two teams full of cash…what their merit ? What they did new ? You know the answer. It is just what football has become : money, money, money. And everyone know this two club will be irrelevant without suggar daddies.
And they killed any hope even more for real clubs with real traditions and philosophy to compete, like Ajax.

Hope you are thrilled to watch City, Chelsea or PSG every year in the champions league final.
I can’t say they won it. They bought it will be more appropriate.
 

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And I've never understood this.

Legitimate concerns about the influence of money in the game today and the activities of City's owners of course, but I don't understand why so many are fixated on the notion of "football royalty". For a section of society (at least in the UK) that's more prone to be anti-royalist, sounds a bit contradictory. I'm for more egalitarianism in the sport, period, with advantages to be obtained only through competence, not buying your way to the top. It's telling that those who speak about oil money had little to say when for years the traditional big clubs maintained their spots at the top through spending loads of money ("earned", they say).

Short of massive changes to the sport (squad limits, transfer/wage taxes, more radical redistribution of TV profits), I say, more oligarchs and billionaires please. Maybe that'll drive the point home. Or the sport will be utterly ruined. Either way works.
You may be right saying big clubs killed the competition, but at last they built it. It was not just an injection of cash. Now with the new cash clubs you can say every competition is dead and you cannot even dream about as there is nothing behind it.

What can you say about City ? What story can you tell ?

There is plenty to dream about United, Ajax, Barcelona, Juventus, Milan, Bayern, Madrid, Liverpool. Stuff you can speak about to your kid you know…like the plane crash and how Sir Matt Busby rebuilt the team to win Europe with Charlton still in it.

What can you say about City ? Look this great team son, one day an Oil barron came here and wasted one billion to win it. He is a great guy even if he kills people from time to time.

Maybe you are not the kind to dream and appreciate history. But I like history and the great guys who made it in general. Kings, conquerors, writers, philosophers, geniuses …and for sure it is a great part of my love for United.
 

Morty_

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Werner will score a brace, and Chelsea to win 2-1, kicking of Werner-era.
 

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And I've never understood this.

Legitimate concerns about the influence of money in the game today and the activities of City's owners of course, but I don't understand why so many are fixated on the notion of "football royalty". For a section of society (at least in the UK) that's more prone to be anti-royalist, sounds a bit contradictory. I'm for more egalitarianism in the sport, period, with advantages to be obtained only through competence, not buying your way to the top. It's telling that those who speak about oil money had little to say when for years the traditional big clubs maintained their spots at the top through spending loads of money ("earned", they say).

Short of massive changes to the sport (squad limits, transfer/wage taxes, more radical redistribution of TV profits), I say, more oligarchs and billionaires please. Maybe that'll drive the point home. Or the sport will be utterly ruined. Either way works.
Many people are averse to change, even more so when the power balance shifts and they start losing their grip on something (in this case the PL) they greatly benefitted from and the according, 'god-given' privileges. So they take the 'holier-than-thou' road and resort to the classical history, traditions, proper club, etc. arguments in a reactionary but futile effort to discredit the new rising powers and go against the tide.

Yeah, as it stands the only way to get to the top and stay there is massive amounts of money, no other way around that.
 

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You may be right saying big clubs killed the competition, but at last they built it. It was not just an injection of cash. Now with the new cash clubs you can say every competition is dead and you cannot even dream about as there is nothing behind it.

What can you say about City ? What story can you tell ?

There is plenty to dream about United, Ajax, Barcelona, Juventus, Milan, Bayern, Madrid, Liverpool. Stuff you can speak about to your kid you know…like the plane crash and how Sir Matt Busby rebuilt the team to win Europe with Charlton still in it.

What can you say about City ? Look this great team son, one day an Oil barron came here and wasted one billion to win it. He is a great guy even if he kills people from time to time.

Maybe you are not the kind to dream and appreciate history. But I like history and the great guys who made it in general. Kings, conquerors, writers, philosophers, geniuses …and for sure it is a great part of my love for United.
Every story begins at some point and becomes romanticized over time. Despite my efforts no one cares about Milan's origins as a top club and that was just 40 years ago. I have no issues with the late comers. I wish the game wasn't skewed to the point that a historical club like Newcastle can only dream of making it to the top by being bought out by Saudi Arabia.

There are legitimate ways to fix the problem. Until then I'm not too bothered.
 

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Every story begins at some point and becomes romanticized over time. Despite my efforts no one cares about Milan's origins as a top club and that was just 40 years ago. I have no issues with the late comers. I wish the game wasn't skewed to the point that a historical club like Newcastle can only dream of making it to the top by being bought out by Saudi Arabia.

There are legitimate ways to fix the problem. Until then I'm not too bothered.
Exaclty.
 

roonster09

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I hope Chelsea wins it, doubt Pep will lose 3 times to Tuchel in such a short time.

Maybe for the first time I will be pissed off watching Werner scoring offside goals and missing open goals.
 

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It is a no-contest. Chelsea don't have half a decent striker or half a decent false-nine.
City will walk all over them. 3-1 is my prediction.
 

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Horrible final, though a Liverpool vs City final would be even worse. Won't be watching

Hope Chelsea wins as they are the lesser of the 2 evils. Preferably through a terrible penalty shootout with lots of misses and blunders. Unfortunately I think City destroy Chelsea

The even more sickening thing is despite already having all those great players, City will still go out and spend millions in the transfer window, signing someone like Haaland or Kane, regardless if they win it or not.

Meanwhile, we will accept mediocrity by giving a manager who is out of his depth a new contract, and make no notable signings.
 
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Nice of BT to dedicate about 90 percent of their coverage so far to City.
 

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Nice of BT to dedicate about 90 percent of their coverage so far to City.
Lmfao. I thought we had a game today didn't realise it had been postponed and they were running a man City documentary
 

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I just want to see pain, tears, comedy and chaos. 2018 we were the laughing stock. I’m ready to revel in the loser of either of these. Please don’t be a boring game.
 

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I like living in a world where City have never won the Champions League.
 

Irwin99

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I can't understand people saying that Chelsea are just about the lesser of two evils; sure, we have a rivalry with them and they're not exactly the most likable club in the world but they're FAR the better choice for us in this game. Chelsea will still be one behind us in Europe, and the City jerk fest will be unbearable if they win (still remember their ultra cringe 'Fourmidables' tag a few years ago).

It's an easy choice. C'mon Chelsea! Also just seen that Kante is playing :drool:
 

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A lot of bitter comments here.

Good luck to Pep.
HA HA and you post this on a United fan page, what do you actually expect ?
Maybe change the banner to City Blue , have a pic of Pep up there ?
Cant be doing with both teams , maybe being a Manc I should want City over the Rentboys, but you know what , I dont actually give a toss who wins, it maybe be on in the back ground, but doubt I will pay much attention.
 

Castia

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That City line up...feck barely a defensive player on the pitch.

Interested to see how this turns out.
 

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Chelsea will win it in midfield and Sterling will miss big chances..

3-1 Chelsea.
 

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Is it? Look who they are owned by.
It is still a little incredible. Liverpool have double the European titles and less league titles. We have underperformed in Europe compared to the league which, I just realised, is a very topical problem.
 

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Super attacking line up from City. Not sure why Pep always changes it for big games ever since he left Barca.
 

Deery

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Foden and Sterling is a strange one I so hope it backfires on the bald genius..
 

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Gundogan is the DM.

Fernandinho had a stinker the last meeting with you, and Rodri has made a few high profile errors recently. Bit attacking from City, still.
They both better than gundogan defensively though and fernandinho can foul a billion times a game. Got to exploit that.
 

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They both better than gundogan defensively though and fernandinho can foul a billion times a game. Got to exploit that.
European referees at this level don’t allow the amount of cynical fouls PL refs allow.